[WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread David Gerard
A commercial enterprise a bit like a wiki or a blog that's a way to
crowdsource *high-quality* information.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/eng/3614099241.html


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread Magnus Manske
co-founder of Wikipedia and many others. Indeed.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 A commercial enterprise a bit like a wiki or a blog that's a way to
 crowdsource *high-quality* information.

 http://columbus.craigslist.org/eng/3614099241.html


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 February 2013 14:20, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 A commercial enterprise a bit like a wiki or a blog that's a way to
 crowdsource *high-quality* information.
 http://columbus.craigslist.org/eng/3614099241.html

 co-founder of Wikipedia and many others. Indeed.


Yes, his track record of success is singular.


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread Nathan
That job ad is so awesome I had to save it for posterity. Work as a
programmer slash executive assistant, for free! Be available 24 hours a day
at a moments notice! Weekends off? Forget it! Mediocre candidates need not
apply! Work for the *gasp* co-founder of Wikipedia! Solid, solid gold.
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 February 2013 15:15, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 That job ad is so awesome I had to save it for posterity. Work as a
 programmer slash executive assistant, for free! Be available 24 hours a day
 at a moments notice! Weekends off? Forget it! Mediocre candidates need not
 apply! Work for the *gasp* co-founder of Wikipedia! Solid, solid gold.


I think you're being unduly harsh here. His track record speaks for itself.


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread Fred Bauder
 On 14 February 2013 15:15, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 That job ad is so awesome I had to save it for posterity. Work as a
 programmer slash executive assistant, for free! Be available 24 hours a
 day
 at a moments notice! Weekends off? Forget it! Mediocre candidates need
 not
 apply! Work for the *gasp* co-founder of Wikipedia! Solid, solid gold.


 I think you're being unduly harsh here. His track record speaks for
 itself.


 - d.

He's not wrong; if it is possible to effectively mobilize the world's
best experts in a major widely supported crowd sourcing project it could
be awesome. Any Wikipedia editor knows from experience that from time to
time you end up arguing with idiots and losing the argument by consensus.

Fred


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
I am rarely as enthusiastic about my ideas as I am about this
one--it's a corker.

I've never known him not be extremely enthusiatic about his ideas...

If you need to see the project before agreeing to work, and I like
you, it's no problem for me to share access to the site if you sign
the NDA/non-compete.

Is that standard? Signing a non-compete before finding out what the
project is sounds risky - you have no idea what you're agreeing not to
compete with...

On 14 February 2013 13:51, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 A commercial enterprise a bit like a wiki or a blog that's a way to
 crowdsource *high-quality* information.

 http://columbus.craigslist.org/eng/3614099241.html


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 February 2013 15:15, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 That job ad is so awesome I had to save it for posterity. Work as a
 programmer slash executive assistant, for free! Be available 24 hours a day
 at a moments notice! Weekends off? Forget it! Mediocre candidates need not
 apply! Work for the *gasp* co-founder of Wikipedia! Solid, solid gold.


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Capture_0e1fc921fd43d5424ccfe36c4554a06308c1cde3.png

(RW has a Capturebot for this sort of thing.)


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread Nicholas Moreau
It's interesting: his official website links to a Facebook fan page for
Sanger... automatically generated, containing his Wikipedia profile.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Larry-Sanger/107978809222387

Nick
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Larry Sanger's new project

2013-02-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 February 2013 15:49, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

 He's not wrong; if it is possible to effectively mobilize the world's
 best experts in a major widely supported crowd sourcing project it could
 be awesome. Any Wikipedia editor knows from experience that from time to
 time you end up arguing with idiots and losing the argument by consensus.


The trouble is that Larry will be running it. The arc of Citizendium,
from launch sideways into the ground, was marked by Larry recruiting
lots of high-powered academics then driving them away within a few
months. (At which point the pseudoscientists and cranks moved in, and
a bit after that the featured article was a puff piece on homeopathy.)
He is demonstrably really, really terrible at community management.


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Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp

2013-02-14 Thread Samuel Klein
This is simply wonderful.  Thank you, Lydia and WD team!   Sam.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
 Heya :)

 Third time's a charm, right? We're live on the English Wikipedia with
 phase 1 now  \o/
 Details are in this blog post:
 http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-english-wikipedia
 An FAQ is being worked on at
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Deployment_Questions
 Thanks everyone who helped! I'm happy to answer questions at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical).
 Please also let me know about any issues there.


 Cheers
 Lydia

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Re: [WikiEN-l] deployment of the first phase of Wikidata on enwp

2013-02-14 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi Lydia,
  Very cool. You might want to expand on this text: Language links in
the sidebar will automatically come from Wikidata, once the article is
linked on Wikidata. No special syntax is needed for that.

Speaking as someone who knows nothing about Wikidata, the phrase once
the article is linked on Wikidata doesn't mean anything. From a bit
of digging around, I see that someone has to create a Wikidata page
for each biographical subject, but who? Will the bot MerllwBot (that
created the Mario Goeppert-Mayer page) eventually create all the
others?

What exactly should editors do at this point? Just sit back and
wikidata goodness will flow? Or take active steps to replace lists of
interwiki links with automatically generated ones?

Steve

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is simply wonderful.  Thank you, Lydia and WD team!   Sam.

 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Lydia Pintscher
 lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
 Heya :)

 Third time's a charm, right? We're live on the English Wikipedia with
 phase 1 now  \o/
 Details are in this blog post:
 http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-english-wikipedia
 An FAQ is being worked on at
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Deployment_Questions
 Thanks everyone who helped! I'm happy to answer questions at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical).
 Please also let me know about any issues there.


 Cheers
 Lydia

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