Re: [WikiEN-l] Privacy Study Looking for Volunteers
It's actually required so as to provide attribution as per the Creative Commons and other licenses we operate under. Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Mar 27, 2015 4:15 AM, Francesco Ariis fa...@ariis.it wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 01:19:35PM -0400, Brian J Mingus wrote: I think it's rather curious that edits to Wikipedia aren't private. Why log the IP address? Why log anything? It's invasive. I guess it's a sensible choice against abuse (vandalism) while still allowing non registered users editing rights ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Privacy Study Looking for Volunteers
Nice on paper, but the wiki-drama from the switch from GFDL was bad enough for me. Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Mar 27, 2015 9:41 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we should move to a different licensing model for future IP edits. CC0 for IP edits would be a more sensible license for edits by an IP where in many cases no-one could attribute the edit to the individual who made it. If people don't want to release their edits as CC0 they can always create an account. Regards Jonathan Cardy On 27 Mar 2015, at 10:28, Elias Friedman elipo...@gmail.com wrote: It's actually required so as to provide attribution as per the Creative Commons and other licenses we operate under. Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Mar 27, 2015 4:15 AM, Francesco Ariis fa...@ariis.it wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 01:19:35PM -0400, Brian J Mingus wrote: I think it's rather curious that edits to Wikipedia aren't private. Why log the IP address? Why log anything? It's invasive. I guess it's a sensible choice against abuse (vandalism) while still allowing non registered users editing rights ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] (Cross-post) METRO Wikipedia webcast on Reference and Citation today 1/12 at 2-3:15pm EST
Cross-posting from the Wikimedia-NYC list for wider audience. Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר -- Forwarded message -- From: Dorothy Howard dhow...@metro.org Date: Jan 12, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-US-NYC-Discuss] METRO Wikipedia webcast on Reference and Citation today 1/12 at 2-3:15pm EST To: Wikimedia New York City Discussion list wikimedia-us-nyc-disc...@lists.wikimedia.org, New York City Wikimedians wikimedia_...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Dear All, A reminder that today METRO is hosting a Wikipedia webcast on Reference and Citation from 2-3:15pm EST with: - Andy Mabbett, Wikipedian-in-Residence atORCID http://blog.scholasticahq.com/post/87810012013/interview-with-andy-mabbett-orcid-ambassador-and#.U_Jvc_ldV4U (the Open Researcher and Contributor ID, an authority control) and the Royal Society of Chemistry http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/wikimedian-residence-royal-society-chemistry/; - Jake Orlowitz and Patrick Earley of the Wikipedia Library https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library; - and Maximilian Klein, member of the “WikiProject Open Access/Signaling OA-ness (Open Access) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_OA-ness . To tune in, go to our event page right at 2pm to find the live link: http://metro.org/events/562/ or visit METRO’s Youtube channel between 2:00pm and 3:15pm. The video will also be archived on Youtube after the webcast finishes. Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions! Best wishes, Dorothy Howard -- Dorothy Howard, Wikipedian-in-Residence and Open Data Fellow Metropolitan New York Library Council (METRO) 212.228.2320 x127 ___ Wikimedia-US-NYC-Discuss mailing list wikimedia-us-nyc-disc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-nyc-discuss ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] ❄ English Wikipedia, Ron Ritzman left a message for you
See the second item under controversies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badoo Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Dec 27, 2014 8:38 PM, Alan Liefting alieft...@ihug.co.nz wrote: Is this for real? Alan On 28/12/2014 2:28 p.m., Ron Ritzman wrote: Ron Ritzman left a message for you Its sender and content will be shown only to you and you can delete it at any time. You can instantly reply to it, using the message exchange system. To find out what was written to you, just follow this link: http://us1.badoo.com/01314585465/in/Wt5.9BPh2Jc/? lang_id=106g=57-0-4m=21mid=549f5cad006a004d04afc9 ad00d05fed0023 If clicking the links in this message does not work, copy and paste them into the address bar of your browser. This email is a part of delivering a message sent by Ron Ritzman on the system. If you received this email by mistake, please just ignore it. After a short time the message will be removed from the system. Have fun! The Badoo Team You have received this email from Badoo Trading Limited (postal address below). If you do not wish to receive further email communications from Badoo click here to opt out: https://us1.badoo.com/impersonation.phtml?lang_id= 106email=wikien-l%40lists.wikimedia.orgblock_code=6e10fdm=21mid= 549f5cad006a004d04afc9ad00d05fed0023g=0-0-4. Badoo Trading Limited is a limited company registered in England and Wales under CRN 7540255 with its registered office at Media Village, 131 - 151 Great Titchfield Street, London, W1W 5BB. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] ❄ English Wikipedia, Ron Ritzman left a message for you
Most likely, Ron gave the site access to his email contacts in exchange for premium services. Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Dec 27, 2014 8:59 PM, Alan Liefting alieft...@ihug.co.nz wrote: Thanks for that. I usually reach for google or wp to answer questions but forgot in this case. So how did they get hold of this list. Is Ron on Badoo??? And did Badoo get hold of Ron's email contacts??? A On 28/12/2014 2:46 p.m., Elias Friedman wrote: See the second item under controversies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badoo Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Dec 27, 2014 8:38 PM, Alan Liefting alieft...@ihug.co.nz wrote: ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: please cease and desist from unsolicited subscriptions
Sounds like a group intended for people with an axe to grind regarding Wikipedia. I would pay it no mind. You also might consider setting your Google Groups profile to not allow admins to add you to groups without your say so. Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Dec 2, 2014 11:26 AM, lkcl . luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote: could someone please urgently investigate this individual. a) who is this person b) what authority do they have c) what links do they have to the Wikipedia Foundation and what the heck is going on: what is this about my email address being added as a banned user? i am a long-standing contributor to wikipedia including the strategic discussions from 2011. l. -- Forwarded message -- From: Russia Aviation russiaviat...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM Subject: Re: please cease and desist from unsolicited subscriptions To: luke.leigh...@gmail.com Your email ID was added as a banned user of Wikipedia who was unjustly banned by fascist organisers. On 12/2/14, luke.leigh...@gmail.com luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote: i have reported your group for net abuse due to an unsolicited subscription. you DO NOT have the right to subscribe people without their explicit authorisation to arbitrary random mailing lists or groups. wherever you got my email address from you will inform me IMMEDIATELY. -- Forwarded message -- From: Russavia (Google Groups) gender-gap+nore...@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:31 AM Subject: Google Groups: You've been added to Gender Gap To: luke.leigh...@gmail.com Gendergap International : Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within international Wikimedia projects. About this group: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects. We want to encourage you to engage with others in this effort. The owner of the group has set your subscription type as Email, meaning that you'll receive a copy of every message posted to the group as they are posted. Visit This Group Start your own group, unsubscribe from this group, or stop invitations like this. or report spam. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Positive comment on NPOV of Mike Brown article
Just thought I'd share this tweet from someone who seems to appreciate our NPOV policy when everyone else seems to be rushing to judgement one way or another: https://twitter.com/Jewmanberg/status/501443265045221376 Sent from my Droid 4 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon is now well-known because it's been on Wikipedia for so long
Wouldn't that be running afoul of the Citogenesis problem that Randall Munroe so succinctly pointed out in his xkcd web comic: https://xkcd.com/978/ Elias Max Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com יְהִי אוֹר On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 March 2014 18:04, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: The reason the name stuck is that Baader-Meinhof is a weird name, and one would not expect to see it multiple times independently in short succession. Hence the name Baader-Meinhof phenomenon (which is also the name of a book) is analogous to onomatopoeia in that both represent the thing they are describing in some way - this is also similar to homoiconicity. It's a perfect name - much better than frequency illusion - and a substantial number of people now know it by this name, in part due to its longstanding and interesting history of existence on Wikipedia, which has advertised it to hundreds of thousands of people and generated tens of thousands of websites which use it by that name. The article should clearly stay! Now you just need sources to this effect. There's always writing them ... - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Reactions against the SOPA blackout
I'd love to list my support on that page (after hitting the stop button to keep the blackout from loading), but with the whole site under full protection... And to imagine people were worried about alienating people and perverting our doctrines with Pending Changes! Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Jan 18, 2012 7:22 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Starting a thread to collect some links to reactions against the SOPA blackout of Wikipedia. Here is one to start things off: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Scott_MacDonald And a link to that page as it currently stands: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Scott_MacDonaldoldid=471993971 Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Irony
Today's Now I Know by Dan Lewis discusses copyright and involves several links to Wikipedia. http://dlewis.net/nik-archives/no-copying-grandma/ Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Jan 18, 2012 5:58 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jeraphine Gryphon jeraph...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia should do these complete edit locks more often, TBH. For the sake of Wikipediholics like me, and so admins can catch up with reports and backlogs in peace. Point of order. This is not an edit-lock. You are thinking from the perspective of an editor. This is a reader lock-out as well (though really, those that know enough to use mirrors or caches or disable javascript are not missing out on reading articles, and that may get mis-reported in the press as those in the know not being inconvenienced but everyone else being locked out from reading Wikipedia). Not sure if it's a serious suggestion but it's just a thought I had. It's a nice idea, but there are several problems with that. Firstly, how to handle urgent edits that still need to be made. Secondly, how to restrict editing disablement to just article namespace (which is what would be needed to allow other stuff to carry on as normal). I don't think it would ever really happen. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On Jan 17, 2012 6:31 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The second RFC was advertised with a central notice active over the past three days for all readers: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNoticemethod=listNoticeDetailnotice=enWP+SOPA+RfC Well that explains why I didn't see it. It was posted during Shabbos when I don't use any electronics. Then on Sunday I worked from 7am - 10pm and evidently never had to consult the encyclopedia for anything. I finally noticed the new notice on Monday night. The only mass media I consume regularly is local radio (WCBS WQXR mostly). I did, however, check my email frequenly during the period with the exception of during Shabbos. I don't subscribe to Foundation-L, I never figured I would be interested in most of the discussions there. I don't want to slog through the whole discussion, but did anyone at least suggest rolling blackouts to minimize the damage? Something like the site's off for the first half of each hour, then on for the latter half? Wouldn't that make a sufficient statement? It's not like en.wiki's facing an immediate existential threat like it.wiki did. This action really seems like overkill to me- swatting flies with hand grenades... Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On Jan 17, 2012 2:24 AM, Javier Bassi javierba...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Elias Friedman elipo...@gmail.com wrote: Since this thing was railroaded through in just 72 hours (...) Discussion on this began on December 10 on Jimbo's talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Walesdiff=prevoldid=465086832 Like I pay attention to the three-ring circus that all the cranks attracted there make Jimbo's talk page into? The discussion's public closing statement gave the figure of 72 hours, that's where I got the number. I am dismayed that such a radical undertaking wasn't mentioned on this list, nor announced by a site banner for logged in users, nor even canvassed out to user talk pages. This is especially in light of the short time frame mentioned in the public closing statement - not everyone checks their watchlist daily (I *assume* a notice was listed there at least!) Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Did you like Wikipedia:Spotlight? Try Editing Friday!
I didn't want to be the party-pooper, but since Thor's blazed that trail for me already grin I should mention that Friday night rather excludes those of us who are observant Jews. (c.f. [[Shabbat]]) Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Mar 24, 2011 4:20 AM, Thor Malmjursson lightningstrik...@live.nl wrote: Late friday to early saturday UTC? Very unlikely to happen. Most people I know on a Friday night want to be out winding down from a week at work, not sitting in front of their PC's editing Wikipedia. Friday night to saturday morning is prime relaxation time, and I'd imagine the kind of time most people would prefer to be putting their feet up, clubbing or down the pub. Thor Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:23:12 -0400 From: ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Did you like Wikipedia:Spotlight? Try Editing Friday! Wikipedia:Spotlight [1] is an inactive project that many of you are probably familiar with. The concept is, real-time collaboration on building a specific article. When it worked well, Spotlight was a great project; it gave participants a taste of the best of Wikipedia and the feeling of community and common purpose. Relative newcomers could learn from old hands, and with many people pitching in, major articles could see huge improvements in a short time. The downside is that it was hard to keep momentum up, and most of the time there was simply nothing happening. Some of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program participants are trying to revive the best parts of Spotlight with Editing Fridays [2]. Instead of one collaboration after another, we set a specific time to collaborate: late Friday to early Saturday UTC. Please join us this Friday! -Sage [1] = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spotlight [2] = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ambassadors/Editing_Fridays ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Template:Outdent freezing my browser
Hello all; I'm hoping you can help me. Any page where Template:Outdent is used more than once is causing my Android's browser to freeze-up. This includes the template page itself and all the on-wiki fora (VPT, ANI, etc.) where I might bring up my problem, which is why I'm posting here. I was having no problems just the other day, so I figure something must have changed recently. Thanks for your help! [[User:Elipongo]] Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Do you want to write pages that thousands of people see every day?
Definitely NOT the bookshelf version! Whatever version you go with, DO include the link to those instructional videos. I didn't even know we had those! Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 2011 5:28 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Do you want to write pages that thousands of people see every day?
Okay then, let me ask how do you intend to measure start them editing? Raw edit counts? Over what period of time? Will what namespace matter? Frankly I'm not as interested in getting new people *started* editing as I am I in *keeping* them editing. Many new editors get frustrated because they don't understand basic rules like proper sourcing and citation. Many are not good at reading our written rules - that's why I was excited to see those tutorial videos. I really think they can bridge the gap for the majority of people who don't do well with just RTFM. That's why I say that at least a link to those videos should be on *every* version of that landing page. Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 2011 6:33 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Anyone noticed this?
That sounds like the first draft of an essay that would be a more personal alternative to [WP:Expert]. Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Dec 13, 2010 5:54 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jacob De Wolff jfdwo...@doctors.org.uk wrote: Alex Bateman and Darren Logan have written in this week's Nature, suggesting that scientists contribute content to Wikipedia rather than simply using it. http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/468765c I can't read the entire article (requires subscription), but thanks for pointing that out. I agree whole-heartedly with this bit from one of the comments: the principal value of Wikipedia is as a point of entry to the literature, rather than as a source itself. It should be made clear though that being a research scientist and writing encyclopedia articles are two very different skills. Some of the skills involved are transferable, others need to be acquired to be successful at both. If you consider those with a deep understanding of a particular science (or science in general), acquired from training and education in a science discipline, then what they are bringing to the collaborative process called Wikipedia is their knowledge of science and most specifically their knowledge of the sources and how reliable different sources are. Those skills are best used, in my view, in identifying sources to be used, reviewing articles to spot mistakes, explaining the mistakes and what to write instead, and so on. But in so doing, the need is still there to work with others (such as prose writers, illustrators, editors, template coders and so on - just as you would work with an editorial team if working for a print encylopedia). This is the key point that some topic area experts who misunderstand Wikipedia don't seem to get. Editing Wikipedia involves working as part of a team to improve articles, not working as an individual - the latter approach doesn't work except on the most obscure of articles. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Amazonified Wikipedia
No, they don't seem to be hotlinking. Their images and links are on their own server - though they show an option to go to the Wikipedia page too. They've even replaced fair use images with links to Wikipedia's file page. I'm no expert, but it looks kosher to me. At most maybe a disclaimer that their site is not endorsed by WikiMedia is needed? Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Dec 3, 2010 11:23 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 December 2010 15:15, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: We were not consulted, and are currently fully examining this. It is not official or endorsed by us. Thanks for clarifying. Are they hotlinking? We could redirect all accesses to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leech_%28computing%29 ;-D - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Parallel Articles on topics
You're proposing to overturn the rules against POV forking? Seems like a bad idea to me - the encyclopedia would shatter into an unnavigable mess if every interest group were to split off their own versions of articles. On 6/27/10, Shmuel Weidberg ezra...@gmail.com wrote: I have come across topics that are approached differently by different groups and thought that parallel articles might be appropriate in those cases. I'd like a wider view on the topic. Here is where I've discussed it on talk pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism#Jewish_Versions_of_articles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David#King_David_in_Judaism ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Sent from my mobile device Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Fw: Subscription Payment Failed
Thanks for the advice, but I made sure that there wasn't any confidential information in the message before I forwarded it. -- Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: Hey Eli, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:23 PM, elipo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! What? You guys don't want my money? As this has to do with private information about you, I suggest you e-mail donate [at] wikimedia.org about this, instead of the public mailing lists. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Google Chrome to support Ogg Theora video natively
Very cool! Now if Chrome would only support Google's own toolbar I might start using it to do things besides watching video. On 5/28/09, Kevin Wong wikipedianmarl...@gmail.com wrote: This is awesome. Wikipedia can really use a lot more coverage of video and audio files. Now if only Internet Explorer would do the same... On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.orgk...@mindspillage.org%3ewrote: Another step towards an open web -- Google's Chrome browser is going to support Theora video natively with the HTML5 video tag: http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/05/google-chrome-3-adds-html5.html http://codereview.chromium.org/115625/diff/1/2 (Mozilla has already committed to this--and funded some of our development of video support also!--and it looks like Opera will as well. Video site Dailymotion is now using open video as well: http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=1312 ) If it weren't for Wikimedia using it, this work probably wouldn't have gone into enabling native browser support for it. So thanks to all for your work on this. :-) Cheers, Kat -- Your donations keep Wikipedia online: http://donate.wikimedia.org/en Wikimedia, Press: k...@wikimedia.org * Personal: k...@mindspillage.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mindspillage * (G)AIM:Mindspillage mindspillage or mind|wandering on irc.freenode.net * email for phone ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Whether you can or can't, any way you are correct. - Henry Ford ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Earth Deletion Discussion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Earth_(2nd_nomination) And before anyone gets too outraged, do make note of today's date. Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] I can't live with [[WP:TPG]].
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:21 AM, brewhaha%40edmc.net brewh...@edmc.netwrote: This is about the second time that someone slapped me with a rule in Talk Page Guidelines. The one about revising your own comments can reduce revision rates to a snail's pace while you discuss them in e-mail. Please tell me that it is a joke that everyone ignores. It's usually considered bad form to change your talk page comments, especially if someone has already responded to them. This is because such editing can change the tone and meaning of the other editor's comments. The usual course of action if you want to take back something you wrote is to strike it out and add material with your new opinion. Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: I am not a lawyer so perhaps I say this in ignorance, however, I find it hard to believe that the best way of handling this is by arguing that Jeremy Hanson poses a public or common nuisance to the people of Virginia and that we should ask local a judge to summon a special grand jury to investigate the complaint. It seems to me the victims of his death, rape and violence threats and harassment, who are global, not merely located in Virgina, should simply start reporting each instance to local law enforcement and that the Foundation should support this by providing relevant data and also either pursue a complaint through his ISP or support administrators doing so. I think a visit from the police/FBI is more likely to get through to him and his family than this Special Grand Jury stuff. I agree. It may very well be a federal offense to use the Internet to make threats of death and violence. It is definetly against state laws. The recipients of the threats should be advised to file complaints with law enforcement. The Foundation should back up the complaints not only with data for the evidence but also with listing of other complaints in other jurisdictions already filed. Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
