Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread George Herbert 
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:

  Suggestion 3: Restore the file on en.wiki if it gets deleted on
 Commons...
  No coding needed at all.
 

 This right here. It should be trivial to just have an admin restore the
 deleted file.


I am an admin, it took about five minutes to find the proper file name and
undelete it again.

HOWEVER - this was 16 months after it was deleted in the first place.

The imperfect nature of people catching such changes in watchlists is the
problem.  This means that the delay until local restore can be arbitrarily
long on non-super-popular pages.

IF the Commons upload were to include the origin file / project and require
the deleter at commons to notify en.wp admins to restore it there, that
would solve the problem.

Or, alternately, we could require that the image be added to all the
constituent projects now using the file in article space upon commons
deletion (undelete on the origin, add it to the projects for other ones
that started using it).  Put the onus on commons deleters to do that and
make it a policy requirement that they did.

I put wikien-l back in the cc list as these are non-technical proposals and
would require ... I guess, commons process.  I don't know what the commons
list is, and am not on it to be able to post to it.


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Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread David Gerard 
On 5 August 2013 08:53, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I put wikien-l back in the cc list as these are non-technical proposals and
 would require ... I guess, commons process.  I don't know what the commons
 list is, and am not on it to be able to post to it.


commons-l, but the actual decisions are made on Commons.


- d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread George Herbert 
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:54 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5 August 2013 08:43, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Suggestion 3: Restore the file on en.wiki if it gets deleted on
 Commons...
  No coding needed at all.

  This right here. It should be trivial to just have an admin restore the
  deleted file.


 Or, indeed, for the delinker bot to mark it for restoration.


...if the same filename was used in Commons as in the source wiki.  That
does not solve the now used on other wikis problem, however, for those
other wikis.

That is quite possibly a least-effort trajectory however...


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