Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you Wikimedia Israel!
Enormous thanks to the Wikimedia Foundation for the scholarship, which allowed me to be part of this fairy tale called Wikimania in Haifa. It was my first Wikimania, so I can't compare it with any other so far, but I felt all of the hospitality, care and good organization of Wikimedia Israel. Thank you! Vassia ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Thanks for all the fish... and lessons learned
As someone who prefers to have their firstname and username printed along with their home wiki, but didn't want my fullname printed I'm happy that aspect of the badge worked - it wasn't an option in Gdansk. With such a high proportion of us presenting I'm not sure that printing the word Presenter is important. But a larger font would have helped. As for the idea of printing on both sides of the badge, that would be good, but you'd need it to be on both halves of a folded over badge so that all the miniguides, tshirt tickets and beach party gubbins could be put between the two halves rather than obscuring things. Generally I think that the moderation was more effective at keeping people to time than previous years - I only witnessed one incident of a presenter being annoyed because he was third and much of his time had been taken by the two previous slots overruning. But our approach could be far more interactive, we are all used to interaction rather than being passive recipients of information. Yet at Wikimania many speakers who are given a twenty minute slot drop the time for questions and try to cram everything into twenty minutes, rather than working out what they can say in ten minutes and giving the audience ten minutes to ask questions/ refute their argument. WereSpielChequers ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you Wikimedia Israel!
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com wrote: From the boarding area of Ben Gurion airport I want to add my congratulations to the WikimediaIL team: it was a wonderful Wikimania not only because it was perfectly organized or because it had a great schedule, or because there were incredible parties and meetups: most of all because you were there, always with a smile, and always trying to make things even better. I know it's been a hard work. Thank you all for your commitment and care. Un abrazo! +1 on all counts! An utterly wonderful experience. Support before and after the official conference was amazing and generous as well. And I have never before seen so many Wikipedians dancing, or watching others dancing, as at the closing party. Warm regards, SJ ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] CD
Marcin, If what you said was correct the security staff must've been explicitly lying, which is, again, not cool. She said we were told you received a CD from the conference. Deryck On Aug 10, 2011 3:05 AM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote: Who told the security staff at Ben Gurion that CDs have been distributed as part of the welcoming pack of Wikimania? Jeromy and I were requested to show the CD you received from Wikimania and we haven't got any. One of the psychological techniques used by the security agencies is to explicitly ask for something not true and wait for denial. The truth (whether there were CDs or not) is not really relevant to this question - it's how you react. Probably you are suspicious if you answer 100% questions correctly and without any hesitation. Those interviews shouldn't be treated like a school test - it's not about getting as much correct answers as possible. For an example of a successful use of this technique, see Stanley Kubrick's movie Eyes Wide Shut, the scene during the party at the manor (not recommended for people sensitive about explicit scenes, usual disclaimers apply). //Marcin ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] CD
On Aug 10, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Marcin, If what you said was correct the security staff must've been explicitly lying, which is, again, not cool. She said we were told you received a CD from the conference. Deryck That could have also been a trick, you know. We were told you were given a CD. I was given other things but not a CD. You passed the test! (this part would be more implied) James On Aug 10, 2011 3:05 AM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote: Who told the security staff at Ben Gurion that CDs have been distributed as part of the welcoming pack of Wikimania? Jeromy and I were requested to show the CD you received from Wikimania and we haven't got any. One of the psychological techniques used by the security agencies is to explicitly ask for something not true and wait for denial. The truth (whether there were CDs or not) is not really relevant to this question - it's how you react. Probably you are suspicious if you answer 100% questions correctly and without any hesitation. Those interviews shouldn't be treated like a school test - it's not about getting as much correct answers as possible. For an example of a successful use of this technique, see Stanley Kubrick's movie Eyes Wide Shut, the scene during the party at the manor (not recommended for people sensitive about explicit scenes, usual disclaimers apply). //Marcin ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
I don't remember seeing them at Coffee Bean. :| Anyway, why don't youjoin the Association of Stroopwafel Addicts then, Jojit? Like me! :P Josh JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM Block I1, AB Political Science Major in Global Politics, Minor in Chinese Studies Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines Vice-President (2011-2012), Wikimedia Philippines Member, Ateneo Debate Society Member, The Assembly Member, Ateneo Lingua Ars Cultura jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com | +63 (927) 531-8301 Friendster/Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor http://akira123323.livejournal.com From: Joseph Ballesteros jojit...@yahoo.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels There are Dutch stroopwafels in the Philippines. I usually order them at The Coffee Bean Tea Leaf. From: Josh Lim jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels Yeah, I remember that stroopwafel quite well. :)) Too bad Dutch stroopwafels aren't sold in the Philippines: we have plenty of Belgian ones here though. But I got to buy seven boxes in Schiphol before boarding my flight to Manila. :D Josh JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM Block I1, AB Political Science Major in Global Politics, Minor in Chinese Studies Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines Vice-President (2011-2012), Wikimedia Philippines Member, Ateneo Debate Society Member, The Assembly Member, Ateneo Lingua Ars Cultura jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com | +63 (927) 531-8301 Friendster/Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor http://akira123323.livejournal.com From: Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels I was lucky enough to find one stroopwafel left in Rapaport, and shared it with Josh (iirc). Good news: Jeromy found a place in Hong Kong where stroopwafels are sold. On Aug 9, 2011 6:23 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi all, many of you have been lucky enough to taste the stroopwafels I and several other dutchies have brought with us to Wikimania once again and which were surprisingly even available in the dorms! If you like it, and feel you're getting addicted, we at Wikimedia offer you some mental support. We don't try to make you kick off, but it is always good to know you're not alone and that the others are with you. Please join the Association of Stroopwafel Addicts (ASA). If there is enough interest, we can try to organize next Wikimania a special ASA-Meeting. We have already 130 members - and would be delighted to welcome you too! If you have not tasted a Stroopwafel yet, but think you might get addicted if you would, you can become aspirant member. Best regards, Lodewijk Gelauff founder http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] CD
I was not asked for a CD, but when I showed the 3-4 pages printed on purpose to confirm my attendance, I was told I should have received another document for the security. I just said no, I did not. When asked about my Egypt stamp, my answer was straight Wikipedia, annual conference each time in a different city (I listed them), this year in Haifa. Great time. When asked why attending this conference was of any interest to me, I answered sweetly that I was a speaker. I felt that they liked this answer ;) I entered the airport at the same time than Teemu. We went through the same procedure, in particular a different security line for the hand-luggage (with no queue... contrariwise to others). They had a special system for electronic gear. It felt as if their checking gate was more modern and giving finer results than the regular one. 3 years ago, I had this security person telling me that my laptop was a fake because I could not start Internet Explorer. This year, the lady asked me whether my (11 inch book air) laptop was actually a laptop or a ipad. It was put in a special padded box for scanning. In an hour, we were all set. However, other French people did not have the same luck. After 3 hours of control, items were confiscated, some with a ticket receipt, some without anything. Staff in Paris airport said it was unlikely it would be recovered. Another wikipedian mentionned behind the curtains search. No bad ill toward the really wonderful organizers of Wikimania (you really rocked !), but to me, this behavior at borders security goes beyond what I consider acceptable. Even if it has no obvious outcome, I would really like that those who had bad experience report it either to their embassy or to Israel officials. Somehow, I think that a 3 hours check, with body search and confiscation of items, for citizens who show really no sign of being dangerous for the State of Israel and which are leaving the country (not entering it) and doing so in non-Israelian flight companies, is simply not respectful of human rights. And as any situation of abuse, just trying to go under the radar and regretting that it went so bad, is passively accepting what is not okay is giving the wrong message and calling for further abuse. Florence On 8/10/11 9:47 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote: I would suggest that it's not about the CD itself, but anything to prove your attendance at the conference you said you went to. So, keep your attendee badge easily available. The conference bag, the printed schedule or other things that you picked up at Wikimania would be good. Just a suggestion, -Liam On 10/08/2011, at 5:37, WereSpielChequerswerespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in Jerusalem for a few more days, can anyone suggest how I can obtain one of these Wikimania CDs or what it could contain? WereSpielChequers On 9 August 2011 20:22, Nathannawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Harel Cainharel.c...@gmail.com wrote: All credit goes to Arthur Schnitzler and his beautiful novella Traumnovelle, on which Kubrick's movie is based. It never ceases to amaze me what a huge diffrence between the treatment that visitors and locals get at TLV. Even though I fly out quite often, for many years now my longest questioning was maybe 2 minutes, and my luggage was not manually searched at all. Harel It doesn't seem amazing at all to me that El Al invests less suspicion in Jewish citizens of Israel, but that's just me :P ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Thanks for all the fish... and lessons learned
Thanks for the input. I have started changing / enhancing the Wikimania Handbook accordingly. Maybe some of you didn't know it already but it is extremely helpful. We have started this last year after Wikimania in Gdansk and it is already quite big: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Handbook /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] CD
Am 09.08.2011 19:48, schrieb James Hare: On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: PS. For those of you who have yet to fly out of Israel: it's a good idea to have a password / Android lock etc. on each of your electronic devices, so that they can't check their content except in front of you. I don't know anything about a Wikimania CD, but I do have a security related question. I brought a USB flash drive with me, since I usually keep one handy. Yet there is no way for me to plug it into my computer to verify it's a flash drive because I didn't bring a computer in the conventional sense (I brought my iPad which has no USB port, sadly). Will this be an issue? I had a USB flash drive with me, no questions asked. In general don't suspect too much ;-) I had the luck to be selected twice, after x-raying my luggage prior to check-in and at the normal security check for hand-luggage. Both times they extremely carefully checked everything I had in my luggage, two persons with this special cloth wiping aover everything I had. It took some time (ca. 10 minutes each) but no problem at all. They wanted me to open my computer, OLPC and mobile phone but only so they could wipe all the surfaces. They never requested anything to be switched on. I am pretty sure that they are in no way interested in any data I have with me. I was interviewed thoroughly because I had those stamps from Jordan in my passport. Why I went there, when, how long, what I did there, where I stayed, if I knew somebody there. Answered that easily, no problem at all. I was there 2 hours prior to my flight (flight was at 11:55, I arrived at 9:45 but had to take the shuttle to Terminal 1, so I arrived there at 10:00) and still had more than 30 minutes left - even though I needed two shuttles between Terminal 1 and 3 and the two sepcial interrogations. So don't worry ;-) /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
Talking about that: Where is the poster? _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.* 2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com So, since I realized the poster does not give the full account of how Stroopwafels came to be, here is the real history of Stroopwafels entering the Wikimedia world. :) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts/The_real_history_of_Wikimedia%27s_crave_for_stroopwafels Cheers :) Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
There are nothing there, only 2007 and 2008 ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts#Notes) Someone find the poster please (and if possible send me some stroopwafels with it :) ) _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.* 2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com It's linked from the Association's page (at the bottom) Delphine (too lazy to find the link) On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about that: Where is the poster? _ Béria Lima (351) 925 171 484 Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. 2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com So, since I realized the poster does not give the full account of how Stroopwafels came to be, here is the real history of Stroopwafels entering the Wikimedia world. :) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts/The_real_history_of_Wikimedia%27s_crave_for_stroopwafels Cheers :) Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
If I'm not mistaken, there was no poster for this year, as well as last year and even two years ago. Hope to see one next year! :P Josh JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM Block I1, AB Political Science Major in Global Politics, Minor in Chinese Studies Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines Vice-President (2011-2012), Wikimedia Philippines Member, Ateneo Debate Society Member, The Assembly Member, Ateneo Lingua Ars Cultura jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com | +63 (927) 531-8301 Friendster/Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor http://akira123323.livejournal.com From: Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels There are nothing there, only 2007 and 2008 (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts#Notes) Someone find the poster please (and if possible send me some stroopwafels with it :) ) _ Béria Lima (351) 925 171 484 Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. 2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com It's linked from the Association's page (at the bottom) Delphine (too lazy to find the link) On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about that: Where is the poster? _ Béria Lima (351) 925 171 484 Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. 2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com So, since I realized the poster does not give the full account of how Stroopwafels came to be, here is the real history of Stroopwafels entering the Wikimedia world. :) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts/The_real_history_of_Wikimedia%27s_crave_for_stroopwafels Cheers :) Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
I was going to make one, but had to give priority to my Wikimedia Chapters presentation - the preperation of which got a little bump in the road the weeks before and was more exhausting than expected :) No updated poster hence. Lodewijk 2011/8/10 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com Well, there were a submission ( http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Stroopwafels) who got accepted, so i'm guessing there was a poster somewhere. _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.* On 10 August 2011 15:16, Josh Lim jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, there was no poster for this year, as well as last year and even two years ago. Hope to see one next year! :P Josh JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM Block I1, AB Political Science Major in Global Politics, Minor in Chinese Studies Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines Vice-President (2011-2012), Wikimedia Philippines Member, Ateneo Debate Society Member, The Assembly Member, Ateneo Lingua Ars Cultura jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com | +63 (927) 531-8301 Friendster/Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor http://akira123323.livejournal.com -- *From:* Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com *To:* Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:42 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels There are nothing there, only 2007 and 2008 ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts#Notes) Someone find the poster please (and if possible send me some stroopwafels with it :) ) _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.* 2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com It's linked from the Association's page (at the bottom) Delphine (too lazy to find the link) On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about that: Where is the poster? _ Béria Lima (351) 925 171 484 Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. 2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com So, since I realized the poster does not give the full account of how Stroopwafels came to be, here is the real history of Stroopwafels entering the Wikimedia world. :) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts/The_real_history_of_Wikimedia%27s_crave_for_stroopwafels Cheers :) Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you Wikimedia Israel!
Thank you, Wikimedia Israel team for a fantastic Wikimania in Haifa. The conference organization was close to flawless both for the tech hackathon and main program. It was an enriching experience for me with excellent talks and great people participating. Washington DC 2012 will have high expectations to meet :-) Thanks again for all your hard work! Wikimania 2011 rocked! Alolita On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Osmar Valdebenito os...@wikimediachile.cl wrote: Thanks to Wikimedia Israel for this AMAZING Wikimania. You made an excellent work and raised the bar for next events. You were always with a smile to answer every problem/doubt we had and that was really nice. I think everyone has said pretty much all what I think. And also I want to thank all the people that attended Wikimania. It was great to share with you not only your presentations but also in the beach, in the welcoming party, in the breaks at the venue or even meeting randomly at the streets. I hope I can see you all again at Washington next year! Osmar Valdebenito Gaete Presidente de Wikimedia Chile [[:es:Usuario:B1mbo]] http://www.wikimediachile.cl 2011/8/10 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com wrote: From the boarding area of Ben Gurion airport I want to add my congratulations to the WikimediaIL team: it was a wonderful Wikimania not only because it was perfectly organized or because it had a great schedule, or because there were incredible parties and meetups: most of all because you were there, always with a smile, and always trying to make things even better. I know it's been a hard work. Thank you all for your commitment and care. Un abrazo! +1 on all counts! An utterly wonderful experience. Support before and after the official conference was amazing and generous as well. And I have never before seen so many Wikipedians dancing, or watching others dancing, as at the closing party. Warm regards, SJ ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] CD
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Florence Devouard anth...@anthere.org wrote: If local standard procedures involve stealing people property, I would not say this deserve any respect. Stealing is stealing. In any country. Florence Stealing is a pretty harsh term. Air travel security arrangements vary by country, but virtually every country authorizes its security personnel to confiscate items under certain circumstances. You can probably imagine why Israel might have stronger security measures than other countries. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] CD
On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Florence Devouard anth...@anthere.org wrote: If local standard procedures involve stealing people property, I would not say this deserve any respect. Stealing is stealing. In any country. Florence Stealing is a pretty harsh term. Air travel security arrangements vary by country, but virtually every country authorizes its security personnel to confiscate items under certain circumstances. You can probably imagine why Israel might have stronger security measures than other countries. They never confiscated anything of mine, but remember for 1-2 years after 9/11, we had very similar security procedures as Israel does for flying (especially from Toronto) to Washington Reagan National Airport -- route that I flew often. They hand searched checked luggage and carry-on bags, our gate was in a very secluded section (nothing to eat) of Toronto Pearson Airport, metal detectors at the gate, no getting up from seats 30 min before landing, etc. Also seen some of this security in Cairo. Fortunately, they don't do all this anymore for DCA and hope things will be very easy next summer. We are working with the State Dept / authorities to help make entry to US painless as possible. Cheers, Katie ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Thanks for all the fish... and lessons learned
Or just your photos are plenty of Commons. :D User name and home wiki are musts in my opinion, WMF staff are preferable (and separated from the organizing team) since even during the conference some topics raised up and there would be many people who wanted to talk w/ staffers but not known who were whom - not every people joined Berlinerkonferenz and [[wmf:Staff]] doesn't provide us every single staffer photos. In addition, it sometimes may be a bit tough to distinguish Mr. A from Mr.B if those two comes from the one same ethnic group. Conclusion: clear printing names and if possible affiliation is beneficial. Not for only for us wikimaniacs but also for the people got so an interested to come and see who Wikimedians would be - The lesser you've got involved into the community, the more clues might help. Also, even if an option, I prefer to see a latenized name along in their original script. Either printed or handwriting. In other words in East Asia the local may often be referred in their original names, specially they are active in that area. I suppose same may happen in other linguistic group dominating areas, but I might be wrong. Sorry for sounding my saying is too much corner picking, but I'd just love to write down before things flow from my mind. Cheers, On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Personally, I found it a nice experience to not have all those titles thrown into my face every time I saw a badge. But then I know most of the people already, so maybe I'm not a fair person to consider there :) Lodewijk 2011/8/10 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Everyone during the registration process had the option to select which lines and titles will be printed on his badge. We didn't want to print things that people not asked (as some people even select not to print their personal name). For our perspective, WMF staff are also part of the community, and it's for them (or the foundation) to decide which titles will be printed I know, and I do believe I filled out that field. I don't remember what I put there myself, but I find it hard to believe that every single WMF staff member left that field blank. Roan ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
On my capacity of ASA Asian (East?) branch representative, I'd love to note two things, Itzik. 1) Now that you proved you have been so enthusiastic and have tried it already, you are welcome to enroll on [[m:ASA]] in full membership. 2) Now Lodewijk said he had found somewhere (TLV? Haifa? He didn't tell me the exact place) kosher stroopwafel - you may find them somewhere near to you, not going so far to AMS or farther. Cheers, On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Stroopwafels ! I remember I got notification that you came with the pack of stroopwafels, so I immediately dropped everything I did and ran to pick one (and that was left for me, only one!) :) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi all, many of you have been lucky enough to taste the stroopwafels I and several other dutchies have brought with us to Wikimania once again and which were surprisingly even available in the dorms! If you like it, and feel you're getting addicted, we at Wikimedia offer you some mental support. We don't try to make you kick off, but it is always good to know you're not alone and that the others are with you. Please join the Association of Stroopwafel Addicts (ASA). If there is enough interest, we can try to organize next Wikimania a special ASA-Meeting. We have already 130 members - and would be delighted to welcome you too! If you have not tasted a Stroopwafel yet, but think you might get addicted if you would, you can become aspirant member. Best regards, Lodewijk Gelauff founder http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] CD
Since we are sharing experiences: This morning I went to Ben Gurion Airport for my El Al flight back to New York City. I wore my Wikimania t-shirt, badge, and lanyard, and prominently carried my Wikimania shoulder bag, along with a Wikimedia shoulder bag. I was asked, among other questions: What was the purpose of your trip to Israel? Didn't that conference end about a week ago? What are your parents' names? Where did you stay in Israel? Near the city center? Do you belong to any community or congregation? Any communities with which you celebrate holidays like the Sabbath? What languages do you speak? Where do you live? What is the origin of your name? An agent asked me about whether I had liquids; I showed my little bottles/vials and was told to put them all into my checked luggage. My bags were X-rayed, my laptop X-rayed separately. Then I was directed to secondary screening. All my bags were opened and hand-searched and swabbed. I was asked about my ZaReason laptop specifically because it's not a brand/model they'd seen before. An agent took me to a curtained, well-used cell with no clock, hand-searched me and swabbed me (spread your legs, raise your arms, now face me, etc.), and took my wallet, passport, phone, shoes, brooch, and overshirt away for inspection. I don't know how long I was there. She eventually returned all my belongings to me; one pocket of my wallet had been unzipped and the contents were scattered in the tub. I could see from a dialog box on the screen that the agents had tried to look at the contents of my phone. I do not know whether they tried to turn my laptop on, or found a way to access its contents. Overall I estimate the hassle took about 45 minutes to an hour. But at least they let me take my laptop on the plane. In contrast, before I could get on my flight from New York to Israel, El Al agents interrogated me and searched me and my belongings for approximately two hours. Worse, they put my laptop into my checked luggage, so I could not do any work on the flight (I had not planned on checking any luggage, just using two carry-on shoulder bags). As part of my search and questioning in New York, an agent took me into an employee break room and hand-searched and swabbed me and took all my belongings to be inspected. I know from mistaken time settings on my phone that they opened my phone and temporarily took out its battery, then had to reset its timezone, the date, etc. I do not know whether they tried to access my laptop's contents. In New York, I showed the agents a bunch of Wikimania conference information printouts, the registration letter, and my business cards, and was wearing my Wikimedia bag. The agents asked, among other questions: Do you have a family? Do you have children? Why didn't you take your husband's name? Why isn't he coming on this trip? Do you know anyone in Israel? Do you have his phone number? What do you do for a job? Do you go to an office? Could you talk me through what you do each day? Did you have to do any special training for that job? You don't have more luggage than that? Where did you go to college? What are the jobs you have had since then? Why have you had so many jobs in the past two years? You say you did some consulting for GNOME; can you open your laptop and show me some work you did for them? Will you be traveling in the area after the conference? The agents in New York were kinder and less brusque than the agents at Ben Gurion, and -- since they'd delayed me for so long -- walked me to the airplane's jetway, ensuring I skipped to the front of the airport security line and any other queues. In both cases I was traveling alone. And in both cases I was myself, a US citizen whose parents and name and skin color came from South Asia. I can't pass as anything else. An agent asked me, at the Tel Aviv airport, what community or congregation I belonged to. I didn't understand at first, and my first thought was, the free software community, I guess? The community that congregates at Wikimania, that I'd come to Haifa to celebrate. And my search and interrogation experiences were, to me, the least welcoming thing about my Wikimania. To bring it back to the thread topic: No one asked me about the conference CD. -Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Thanks for all the fish... and lessons learned
IPA would do better than English approximations usually do :) Viatcheslav 11.08.2011, 02:00, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2011/8/10 KIZU Naoko aph...@gmail.com: Also, even if an option, I prefer to see a latenized name along in their original script. Either printed or handwriting. In other words in East Asia the local may often be referred in their original names, specially they are active in that area. I suppose same may happen in other linguistic group dominating areas, but I might be wrong. That's a good point. I spoke to one Israeli Wikimedian over lunch that only had his name in Hebrew script on his badge, which was no use to me. A transliteration into the Latin alphabet would have been very helpful. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Thanks for all the fish... and lessons learned
2011/8/10 Иванов Вячеслав v.iva...@amikeco.ru: IPA would do better than English approximations usually do :) Only for people that know IPA - and know it for the phonemes used in that language, too. I can muddle through most of the IPA symbols used in English (since I've read so many Wikipedia articles that use it), but I get lost very quickly when trying to understand the pronunciations for foreign words. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
Actually, they sold kosher stroopwafels (I am not familiar with kosher rules, but I cant find any way how stroopwafels would be unkosher based on their ingredients at least) at the Talia dorms! Also a supermarket in Haifa sold them. Best, Lodewijk 2011/8/11 KIZU Naoko aph...@gmail.com On my capacity of ASA Asian (East?) branch representative, I'd love to note two things, Itzik. 1) Now that you proved you have been so enthusiastic and have tried it already, you are welcome to enroll on [[m:ASA]] in full membership. 2) Now Lodewijk said he had found somewhere (TLV? Haifa? He didn't tell me the exact place) kosher stroopwafel - you may find them somewhere near to you, not going so far to AMS or farther. Cheers, On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Stroopwafels ! I remember I got notification that you came with the pack of stroopwafels, so I immediately dropped everything I did and ran to pick one (and that was left for me, only one!) :) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi all, many of you have been lucky enough to taste the stroopwafels I and several other dutchies have brought with us to Wikimania once again and which were surprisingly even available in the dorms! If you like it, and feel you're getting addicted, we at Wikimedia offer you some mental support. We don't try to make you kick off, but it is always good to know you're not alone and that the others are with you. Please join the Association of Stroopwafel Addicts (ASA). If there is enough interest, we can try to organize next Wikimania a special ASA-Meeting. We have already 130 members - and would be delighted to welcome you too! If you have not tasted a Stroopwafel yet, but think you might get addicted if you would, you can become aspirant member. Best regards, Lodewijk Gelauff founder http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Stroopwafels
I think kosher stroopwafels mainly concern the handling of eggs and butter. Would someone fill us in about the details? On Aug 11, 2011 11:51 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Actually, they sold kosher stroopwafels (I am not familiar with kosher rules, but I cant find any way how stroopwafels would be unkosher based on their ingredients at least) at the Talia dorms! Also a supermarket in Haifa sold them. Best, Lodewijk 2011/8/11 KIZU Naoko aph...@gmail.com On my capacity of ASA Asian (East?) branch representative, I'd love to note two things, Itzik. 1) Now that you proved you have been so enthusiastic and have tried it already, you are welcome to enroll on [[m:ASA]] in full membership. 2) Now Lodewijk said he had found somewhere (TLV? Haifa? He didn't tell me the exact place) kosher stroopwafel - you may find them somewhere near to you, not going so far to AMS or farther. Cheers, On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Stroopwafels ! I remember I got notification that you came with the pack of stroopwafels, so I immediately dropped everything I did and ran to pick one (and that was left for me, only one!) :) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi all, many of you have been lucky enough to taste the stroopwafels I and several other dutchies have brought with us to Wikimania once again and which were surprisingly even available in the dorms! If you like it, and feel you're getting addicted, we at Wikimedia offer you some mental support. We don't try to make you kick off, but it is always good to know you're not alone and that the others are with you. Please join the Association of Stroopwafel Addicts (ASA). If there is enough interest, we can try to organize next Wikimania a special ASA-Meeting. We have already 130 members - and would be delighted to welcome you too! If you have not tasted a Stroopwafel yet, but think you might get addicted if you would, you can become aspirant member. Best regards, Lodewijk Gelauff founder http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Stroopwafel_Addicts ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
