Re: [Wikimania-l] Video recording of Wikimania sessions
I very much agree with Ed in both accounts: 1) video production requires a professional team 2) Views were fairly high for the limited promotion and such put into sharing the videos. I think though our social media reach in 2014 was a lot better because we had a lot if volunteers working around communications. Naureen On Friday, 14 August 2015, Edward Saperia edsape...@gmail.com wrote: However, I would suggest looking hard at the stats on how often videos are viewed (and if there is a way to know if they are viewed all the way through or not). For Wikimania 2014, the Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/WikimaniaLondon/videos and livestream https://livestream.com/wikimania show some stats (videos are also available in Commons so some views may not be captured in the former pages). On livestream, were videos were shared first, the most viewed video shows 2,359 views, it is not hard to find videos in the 100-500 view range, and others just have less than 20 views. It's certainly a professional job to get all the session video produced and published in good time after the conference. No volunteer team could do this, it requires a LOT of equipment, professional expertise and hard work. To me, the view numbers seem *excellent -* if you consider the conference in terms of price-per-attendee, spending 5% more so that additional hundreds can see the content is an order of magnitude better value. *Edward Saperia* Conference Director Wikimania London http://www.wikimanialondon.com email javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','edsape...@gmail.com'); • facebook http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia • twitter http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia • 07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG -- *Naureen Nayyar* Norabean.com +1.646.481.6672 @norabean ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Video recording of Wikimania sessions
As another anecdotal data point, I had a technical discussion go awry this week because someone was pointed to my slides, which I'd written assuming the sessions would be recorded (ie, I didn't spend time on extensive speaker notes). The reader got confused without the context of the spoken talk, and wrote a moderately-hot flame about what they assumed my talk must have been about based on the slides (missing the point, I'm afraid). So: without video not only are the slides I posted not useful, they seem to have been actively *detrimental* to the cause. It would be better if I hadn't posted them. Certainly part of the blame is mine for being overly clever in my talk (jokes and tone of voice being hard to capture on slides). But I do wish we'd taken the time to archive this little bit of the world's knowledge when it happened. Looks like I'm going to have to re-present the talk at some point in order to get it properly recorded. --scott ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Video recording of Wikimania sessions
Every Wikimania has its strengths, and its weaknesses. Most Wikimanias are organised by a great group of volunteers - often the bottle neck. That also offers an advantage: if you care a lot about a specific issue (like live streaming), that gives you the opportunity to volunteer to organise that, and make it happen in an awesome way. It does not guarantee that it happens (because you also need equipment etc), but with a dedicated volunteer to make it happen, who could potentially even rally to get the funding for it (grants anyone?), you significantly increase the odds. Lodewijk On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Jan Ainali j...@ainali.com wrote: Well a good work-around there is to live stream the sessions. That way no one, neither volunteers or professionals need to do anything after the conference. In Gdansk 2010 all sessions were live streamed. That no Wikimania after that has held up to that standard is confusing me. /Jan Ainali On August 14, 2015, Edward Saperia edsape...@gmail.com wrote: However, I would suggest looking hard at the stats on how often videos are viewed (and if there is a way to know if they are viewed all the way through or not). For Wikimania 2014, the Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/WikimaniaLondon/videos and livestream https://livestream.com/wikimania show some stats (videos are also available in Commons so some views may not be captured in the former pages). On livestream, were videos were shared first, the most viewed video shows 2,359 views, it is not hard to find videos in the 100-500 view range, and others just have less than 20 views. It's certainly a professional job to get all the session video produced and published in good time after the conference. No volunteer team could do this, it requires a LOT of equipment, professional expertise and hard work. To me, the view numbers seem *excellent -* if you consider the conference in terms of price-per-attendee, spending 5% more so that additional hundreds can see the content is an order of magnitude better value. *Edward Saperia* Conference Director Wikimania London http://www.wikimanialondon.com email edsape...@gmail.com • facebook http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia • twitter http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia • 07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Video recording of Wikimania sessions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Jan Ainali j...@ainali.com wrote: Well a good work-around there is to live stream the sessions. That way no one, neither volunteers or professionals need to do anything after the conference. In Gdansk 2010 all sessions were live streamed. That no Wikimania after that has held up to that standard is confusing me. That is actually a good example of a bad example. :) The sessions were indeed live-streamed, and it actually worked. But to this day, this category is empty: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2010_presentation_videos Despite the sessions _also_ being recorded, in all four tracks, the recordings have disappeared with the vendor under confusing circumstances, and several attempts to recover them have all foundered (I never found out the details); the recordings are lost to the movement to this day. More generally, I'll say the arguments made in favor of recording (particularly by Andrew Lih, Victor Grigas, and Ed Saperia) are persuasive to me, and I'm in favor of the extra investment in the future. A. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Video recording of Wikimania sessions
Well a good work-around there is to live stream the sessions. That way no one, neither volunteers or professionals need to do anything after the conference. In Gdansk 2010 all sessions were live streamed. That no Wikimania after that has held up to that standard is confusing me. /Jan Ainali On August 14, 2015, Edward Saperia edsape...@gmail.com wrote: However, I would suggest looking hard at the stats on how often videos are viewed (and if there is a way to know if they are viewed all the way through or not). For Wikimania 2014, the Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/WikimaniaLondon/videos and livestream https://livestream.com/wikimania show some stats (videos are also available in Commons so some views may not be captured in the former pages). On livestream, were videos were shared first, the most viewed video shows 2,359 views, it is not hard to find videos in the 100-500 view range, and others just have less than 20 views. It's certainly a professional job to get all the session video produced and published in good time after the conference. No volunteer team could do this, it requires a LOT of equipment, professional expertise and hard work. To me, the view numbers seem excellent - if you consider the conference in terms of price-per-attendee, spending 5% more so that additional hundreds can see the content is an order of magnitude better value. Edward Saperia Conference Director Wikimania London http://www.wikimanialondon.com email edsape...@gmail.com•facebook http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia•twitter http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia•07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
