[Wikimania-l] Invitation to “Engaging local Wikipedians” and “German Wikipedia” Workshop at Wikimania

[Martin Rulsch]

Hi Wikimaniacs!

Wikimania is just around the corner and many people looking forward to the
wide range of topics. Following the general idea of sharing knowledge about
best practices, the Volunteer Support Department of Wikimedia Deutschland
warmly invites you to the pre-conference workshops “Engaging local
Wikipedians” and “German Wikipedia”.

*“Engaging local Wikipedians” workshop*

The German Chapter supports several groups with the installation, funding,
and support of local spaces where community members can sozialize, write
articles, plan projects, share knowledge, start cooperations, teach new
editors, and so one. These are places where Wikipedians have a face.

Several local groups will hold lightning talks about their activities.
Further, a study by Wikimedia Deutschland on the local spaces will be
presented. Nevertheless, getting local Wikipedians together does not only
work in actual rooms but in several other ways, fitting to the respective
needs of the communities and general conditions. One solution for example
is the Kumusha Bus that educates several communities in Africa about the
Open Movement. Of course, organizing student groups for Wikipedia in
several cities is another one.

We warmly invite you to share your experiences in this workshop. Learning
from each other is the main goal of this workshop.

Basic information for “Engaging local Wikipedians” workshop:

   - Date: Thursday, 23 June
   - Time: 9.30–13.00
   - Place: Villa Rogo (20 min away from the center)
   - Find more information on
   https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Workshop:_Engaging_local_Wikipedians

*“German Wikipedia” workshop*

The community of the German-language Wikipedia is one of the most active
ones in the Wikiverse. Several volunteers will attend Wikimania this year
and prepared presentations on a broad variety of topics they are interested
in, from a presentation of the Young Wikipedians group to a photography
workshop focused on flashes.

They warmly invite you into the German house, the Villa Rogo, to the
“German Wikipedia” workshop that follows the previous “Engaging local
Wikipedians” workshop (we plan to serve Italian pasta for you in our
kitchen ;-)).

If you ever wanted to know what the German community is doing, or when you
are curious what their affairs of the heart are, join this workshop and be
excited!

Basic information for “German Wikipedia” workshop:

   - Date: Thursday, 23 June
   - Time: 14.00–18.00
   - Place: Villa Rogo (20 min away from the center)
   - Find more information on
   https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Workshop:_German_Wikipedia

If you have any question, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Best,
Martin

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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Marta Pigazzini]

Dear Lluís,
I confirm that your European Union ID is fine for registration.
Best,
Marta


Il 17/06/16 21:11, Lluís Madurell Alemany ha scritto:

Greetings

As Iolanda pointed out,

To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
1. a printed copy of your registration code
2. a printed copy of your passport
3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people
staying in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you
have it ready makes things quicker)


My question was focused on the second point. I assume for what I have 
read in the responses that with my European Union ID is enought for 
the registration.


Best wishes.

Lluís Madurell.

/
/
-
/Lluís Madurell Alemany
Lluis_tgn
/

2016-06-17 20:49 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kinzler >:


Am 17.06.2016 um 17:39 schrieb sibi kanagaraj:
> Non Europeans (Indian) , traveling to Esino with a Schengen
Visa, are we allowed
> to visit Switzerland?

As far as I know, yes: Switzerland is part of the Schengen Area
(confusingly,
the UK is not). See also
.


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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Lluís Madurell Alemany]

Greetings

As Iolanda pointed out,

To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
> 1. a printed copy of your registration code
> 2. a printed copy of your passport
> 3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people staying
> in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you have it ready
> makes things quicker)


My question was focused on the second point. I assume for what I have read
in the responses that with my European Union ID is enought for the
registration.

Best wishes.

Lluís Madurell.


-


*Lluís Madurell AlemanyLluis_tgn*

2016-06-17 20:49 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kinzler :

> Am 17.06.2016 um 17:39 schrieb sibi kanagaraj:
> > Non Europeans (Indian) , traveling to Esino with a Schengen Visa, are we
> allowed
> > to visit Switzerland?
>
> As far as I know, yes: Switzerland is part of the Schengen Area
> (confusingly,
> the UK is not). See also .
>
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimania-l] The Weather in Esino Lario

[Lodewijk]

Just for the record: 'hotter than usual during Wikimania' would probably
require temperatures well above 30C... it is almost a tradition to have
heat waves during our annual conference (Boston, Buenos Aires, Gdansk,
Washington) or have it in a hot place in general (Taipei, Alexandria,
Haifa, Hong Kong, Mexico). So having a 'cool wikimania' wouldn't be too bad
actually!

Lodewijk

2016-06-17 20:59 GMT+02:00 Sage Ross :

> The current forecasts say that it might be quite a bit hotter than
> usual during Wikimania — as high as 29°C on Thursday, if
> accuweather.com is right.
>
> -Sage
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Risker  wrote:
> > I've been following the long-range forecasts and it appears that we can
> > expect the following during the course of our visit to this little
> village
> > in the Italian Alps:
> >
> > Daytime high temperatures between 16 and 20 degrees Celsius (62-28
> degrees
> > Fahrenheit for our American colleagues).  For many of us this is "hoodie"
> > weather, and it appears this is a bit cooler than average for this time
> of
> > the year.
> > Night time temperatures between 7-9 degrees Celsius (45-52 degrees
> > Fahrenheit).
> > Short periods of rain, possibly including a thunderstorm, on many days.
> > Most likely to occur in the later afternoon. The rest of the time, we're
> > likely to see glorious sunshine.
> >
> > Whatever else we might want to grumble about, our convenors cannot be
> blamed
> > for the weather.  Looks like it will be a good idea to pack some layers,
> > something that can handle a heavy downpour of rain, and maybe some
> sunscreen
> > too.
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing everyone in a couple of days.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimania-l] The Weather in Esino Lario

[Sage Ross]

The current forecasts say that it might be quite a bit hotter than
usual during Wikimania — as high as 29°C on Thursday, if
accuweather.com is right.

-Sage



On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Risker  wrote:
> I've been following the long-range forecasts and it appears that we can
> expect the following during the course of our visit to this little village
> in the Italian Alps:
>
> Daytime high temperatures between 16 and 20 degrees Celsius (62-28 degrees
> Fahrenheit for our American colleagues).  For many of us this is "hoodie"
> weather, and it appears this is a bit cooler than average for this time of
> the year.
> Night time temperatures between 7-9 degrees Celsius (45-52 degrees
> Fahrenheit).
> Short periods of rain, possibly including a thunderstorm, on many days.
> Most likely to occur in the later afternoon. The rest of the time, we're
> likely to see glorious sunshine.
>
> Whatever else we might want to grumble about, our convenors cannot be blamed
> for the weather.  Looks like it will be a good idea to pack some layers,
> something that can handle a heavy downpour of rain, and maybe some sunscreen
> too.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone in a couple of days.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
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[Wikimania-l] The Weather in Esino Lario

[Risker]

I've been following the long-range forecasts and it appears that we can
expect the following during the course of our visit to this little village
in the Italian Alps:


   - Daytime high temperatures between 16 and 20 degrees Celsius (62-28
   degrees Fahrenheit for our American colleagues).  For many of us this is
   "hoodie" weather, and it appears this is a bit cooler than average for this
   time of the year.
   - Night time temperatures between 7-9 degrees Celsius (45-52 degrees
   Fahrenheit).
   - Short periods of rain, possibly including a thunderstorm, on many
   days.  Most likely to occur in the later afternoon. The rest of the time,
   we're likely to see glorious sunshine.

Whatever else we might want to grumble about, our convenors cannot be
blamed for the weather.  Looks like it will be a good idea to pack some
layers, something that can handle a heavy downpour of rain, and maybe some
sunscreen too.

Looking forward to seeing everyone in a couple of days.

Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Daniel Kinzler]

Am 17.06.2016 um 17:39 schrieb sibi kanagaraj:
> Non Europeans (Indian) , traveling to Esino with a Schengen Visa, are we 
> allowed
> to visit Switzerland?

As far as I know, yes: Switzerland is part of the Schengen Area (confusingly,
the UK is not). See also .


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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Joseph Fox]

I think this discussion is a little tangential now, but I imagine the
confusion is because the UK doesn't have an "ID card" like a lot of the
European countries do.

If in doubt, take your passport with you. :)

Joe

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 17:11 Lodewijk  wrote:

> Hi Harry,
>
> You need a valid ID - this is not under discussion. This can be either a
> passport, or a European identity card. The ID card also has a document
> number, which is typically accepted as 'passport number' (I did that on a
> number of occasions in the UK).
>
> Basically, the ID card has the practical use of a passport anywhere in the
> EU & some more countries.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2016-06-17 17:27 GMT+02:00 Harry Mitchell :
>
>> I'm pretty sure the airlines won't let you fly without a passport. Don't
>> know about cross-Channel ferries but I'm pretty sure Eurostar require a
>> passport, too. EasyJet took my passport number before they'd even let me
>> book the flight.
>>
>> Harry Mitchell
>>
>> http://enwp.org/User:HJ
>> Facebook: mitchell.hj
>> Twitter: @HJ_Mitchell
>> Skype: harry_j_mitchell
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Joseph Fox 
>> *To:* Wikimania general list (open subscription) <
>> wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, 17 June 2016, 16:03
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details
>>
>> I've been informed that what I said below isn't actually true; European
>> ID cards are indeed accepted as valid ID in the UK (and other non-Schengen
>> EU countries). Please disregard!
>>
>> red-facedly,
>> Joe
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 15:51 Joseph Fox  wrote:
>>
>> What Samat says is only true for Schengen-area countries; if you are
>> travelling from (for example) the United Kingdom, you will need a passport.
>> They will not allow you into the Schengen area without it.
>>
>> Though I imagine most of the Brits here will know that already. :)
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 13:22 Samat  wrote:
>>
>> As I know:
>> Inside the EU you should bring with you your official identity card
>> (released by one of the EU country) OR your passport.
>> If you arrive from outside the EU or you would like to cross the border
>> of the EU, you need your passport.
>> Special case is Switzerland (not member of the EU), which is only few km
>> from Esino Lario. For EU citizens, ID card or passport is required to step
>> into Switzerland.
>>
>> Best,
>> Samat
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Lluís Madurell Alemany <
>> lowis.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> For European Union citizens do we need to bring the passport? Is not
>> enought with ID?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> *Lluís Madurell AlemanyLluis_tgn*
>>
>> 2016-06-17 7:45 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa :
>>
>> Dear all
>> yes. All the accommodation in Esino Lario have sheets and towels. We only
>> have a building (scout centre ex-ristoro) for which we request a seeping
>> bag or sheets, but it is a building we are using for some of the
>> volunteers, in exceptional cases and we have already informed people about
>> it.
>>
>> yes. In general there are no private bathrooms.
>> Please bring your toiletry (you can also buy it in the shops of the
>> village which will be open everyday June 22-27 with different longer times
>> but more or less from 9 to 8) and your hairdryer if you need one (with the
>> necessary adapter). I suggest you also to bring some warm cloths (sweater,
>> jacket, umbrella and shoes for the rain - we expect 15-20 degrees which
>> commonly is not very suitable for flip-flap), your adapter if needed, and
>> some euro for taxi (taxi almost never accept visa), for your personal
>> expenses and as deposit for your key if you are in Esino. There is a bank
>> and ATM in Esino Lario but it can be quicker to change or to withdraw money
>> at the airport or at the Milan railway station.
>>
>> To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
>> 1. a printed copy of your registration code
>> 2. a printed copy of your passport
>> 3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people staying
>> in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you have it ready
>> makes things quicker)
>>
>> thanks
>> iolanda
>>
>> Il giorno 17 giu 2016, alle ore 01:30, Risker  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>
>> On 16 June 2016 at 19:19, Lodewijk  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I am preparing to leave, I was checking a few basic things, which I
>> couldn't find in the documentation
>> .
>> Maybe it is obvious, or I overlooked it - apologies in that case.
>>
>> I was wondering what exactly is provided for in the accommodation. It's
>> shared and simple rooms, probably with shared bathrooms etc. Could you
>> confirm it's a cheap hotel-like setting, where bed sheets, towels etc are
>> 

Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Lodewijk]

Hi Harry,

You need a valid ID - this is not under discussion. This can be either a
passport, or a European identity card. The ID card also has a document
number, which is typically accepted as 'passport number' (I did that on a
number of occasions in the UK).

Basically, the ID card has the practical use of a passport anywhere in the
EU & some more countries.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-06-17 17:27 GMT+02:00 Harry Mitchell :

> I'm pretty sure the airlines won't let you fly without a passport. Don't
> know about cross-Channel ferries but I'm pretty sure Eurostar require a
> passport, too. EasyJet took my passport number before they'd even let me
> book the flight.
>
> Harry Mitchell
>
> http://enwp.org/User:HJ
> Facebook: mitchell.hj
> Twitter: @HJ_Mitchell
> Skype: harry_j_mitchell
>
>
> --
> *From:* Joseph Fox 
> *To:* Wikimania general list (open subscription) <
> wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, 17 June 2016, 16:03
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details
>
> I've been informed that what I said below isn't actually true; European ID
> cards are indeed accepted as valid ID in the UK (and other non-Schengen EU
> countries). Please disregard!
>
> red-facedly,
> Joe
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 15:51 Joseph Fox  wrote:
>
> What Samat says is only true for Schengen-area countries; if you are
> travelling from (for example) the United Kingdom, you will need a passport.
> They will not allow you into the Schengen area without it.
>
> Though I imagine most of the Brits here will know that already. :)
>
> Joe
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 13:22 Samat  wrote:
>
> As I know:
> Inside the EU you should bring with you your official identity card
> (released by one of the EU country) OR your passport.
> If you arrive from outside the EU or you would like to cross the border of
> the EU, you need your passport.
> Special case is Switzerland (not member of the EU), which is only few km
> from Esino Lario. For EU citizens, ID card or passport is required to step
> into Switzerland.
>
> Best,
> Samat
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Lluís Madurell Alemany <
> lowis.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> For European Union citizens do we need to bring the passport? Is not
> enought with ID?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> -
>
>
> *Lluís Madurell AlemanyLluis_tgn*
>
> 2016-06-17 7:45 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa :
>
> Dear all
> yes. All the accommodation in Esino Lario have sheets and towels. We only
> have a building (scout centre ex-ristoro) for which we request a seeping
> bag or sheets, but it is a building we are using for some of the
> volunteers, in exceptional cases and we have already informed people about
> it.
>
> yes. In general there are no private bathrooms.
> Please bring your toiletry (you can also buy it in the shops of the
> village which will be open everyday June 22-27 with different longer times
> but more or less from 9 to 8) and your hairdryer if you need one (with the
> necessary adapter). I suggest you also to bring some warm cloths (sweater,
> jacket, umbrella and shoes for the rain - we expect 15-20 degrees which
> commonly is not very suitable for flip-flap), your adapter if needed, and
> some euro for taxi (taxi almost never accept visa), for your personal
> expenses and as deposit for your key if you are in Esino. There is a bank
> and ATM in Esino Lario but it can be quicker to change or to withdraw money
> at the airport or at the Milan railway station.
>
> To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
> 1. a printed copy of your registration code
> 2. a printed copy of your passport
> 3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people staying
> in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you have it ready
> makes things quicker)
>
> thanks
> iolanda
>
> Il giorno 17 giu 2016, alle ore 01:30, Risker  ha
> scritto:
>
>
> On 16 June 2016 at 19:19, Lodewijk  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As I am preparing to leave, I was checking a few basic things, which I
> couldn't find in the documentation
> .
> Maybe it is obvious, or I overlooked it - apologies in that case.
>
> I was wondering what exactly is provided for in the accommodation. It's
> shared and simple rooms, probably with shared bathrooms etc. Could you
> confirm it's a cheap hotel-like setting, where bed sheets, towels etc are
> provided for? It would save me luggage, so that would be great :) And am I
> correct to assume that toiletries are available somewhere in the village if
> need be?
>
> Thanks for confirming!
>
>
> Hmmm.  According to the "Getting Ready" page[1], if you are assigned to a
> guesthouse or flat, they will provide bedding and towels.  I think it would
> be safe to assume the same for hotel rooms (although it is not specified).
> However, 

Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[sibi kanagaraj]

On Jun 17, 2016 5:52 PM, "Samat"  wrote:
>
> As I know:
> Inside the EU you should bring with you your official identity card
(released by one of the EU country) OR your passport.
> If you arrive from outside the EU or you would like to cross the border
of the EU, you need your passport.

Doubt:
> Special case is Switzerland (not member of the EU), which is only few km
from Esino Lario. For EU citizens, ID card or passport is required to step
into Switzerland.
>

Non Europeans (Indian) , traveling to Esino with a Schengen Visa, are we
allowed to visit Switzerland?
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[Harry Mitchell]

I'm pretty sure the airlines won't let you fly without a passport. Don't know 
about cross-Channel ferries but I'm pretty sure Eurostar require a passport, 
too. EasyJet took my passport number before they'd even let me book the flight. 
Harry Mitchell
http://enwp.org/User:HJ
Facebook: mitchell.hjTwitter: @HJ_MitchellSkype: harry_j_mitchell

  From: Joseph Fox 
 To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) 
 
 Sent: Friday, 17 June 2016, 16:03
 Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details
   
I've been informed that what I said below isn't actually true; European ID 
cards are indeed accepted as valid ID in the UK (and other non-Schengen EU 
countries). Please disregard!
red-facedly,Joe

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 15:51 Joseph Fox  wrote:

What Samat says is only true for Schengen-area countries; if you are travelling 
from (for example) the United Kingdom, you will need a passport. They will not 
allow you into the Schengen area without it.
Though I imagine most of the Brits here will know that already. :)
Joe
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 13:22 Samat  wrote:

As I know:
Inside the EU you should bring with you your official identity card (released 
by one of the EU country) OR your passport.
If you arrive from outside the EU or you would like to cross the border of the 
EU, you need your passport.
Special case is Switzerland (not member of the EU), which is only few km from 
Esino Lario. For EU citizens, ID card or passport is required to step into 
Switzerland.

Best,
Samat


On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Lluís Madurell Alemany  
wrote:

Hi all

For European Union citizens do we need to bring the passport? Is not enought 
with ID?

Thanks.

-Lluís Madurell Alemany
Lluis_tgn

2016-06-17 7:45 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa :

Dear allyes. All the accommodation in Esino Lario have sheets and towels. We 
only have a building (scout centre ex-ristoro) for which we request a seeping 
bag or sheets, but it is a building we are using for some of the volunteers, in 
exceptional cases and we have already informed people about it.
yes. In general there are no private bathrooms.Please bring your toiletry (you 
can also buy it in the shops of the village which will be open everyday June 
22-27 with different longer times but more or less from 9 to 8) and your 
hairdryer if you need one (with the necessary adapter). I suggest you also to 
bring some warm cloths (sweater, jacket, umbrella and shoes for the rain - we 
expect 15-20 degrees which commonly is not very suitable for flip-flap), your 
adapter if needed, and some euro for taxi (taxi almost never accept visa), for 
your personal expenses and as deposit for your key if you are in Esino. There 
is a bank and ATM in Esino Lario but it can be quicker to change or to withdraw 
money at the airport or at the Milan railway station.
To accelerate the registration please prepare for us1. a printed copy of your 
registration code 2. a printed copy of your passport3. if possible 10 euro as a 
deposit for your key (only for people staying in Esino Lario; we will not ask 
it to everyone but if you have it ready makes things quicker)
thanksiolanda

Il giorno 17 giu 2016, alle ore 01:30, Risker  ha scritto:

On 16 June 2016 at 19:19, Lodewijk  wrote:

Hi,
As I am preparing to leave, I was checking a few basic things, which I couldn't 
find in the documentation. Maybe it is obvious, or I overlooked it - apologies 
in that case. 
I was wondering what exactly is provided for in the accommodation. It's shared 
and simple rooms, probably with shared bathrooms etc. Could you confirm it's a 
cheap hotel-like setting, where bed sheets, towels etc are provided for? It 
would save me luggage, so that would be great :) And am I correct to assume 
that toiletries are available somewhere in the village if need be? 
Thanks for confirming!

 Hmmm.  According to the "Getting Ready" page[1], if you are assigned to a 
guesthouse or flat, they will provide bedding and towels.  I think it would be 
safe to assume the same for hotel rooms (although it is not specified).  
However, there is specifically no mention of whether one needs to bring 
bedding/towels for the "specialty lodging" (dormitory).   This was one of the 
reasons I wanted to know where I was staying, because I would have asked this 
very question myself if I'd been assigned to "specialty lodging".   Risker/Anne 
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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Joseph Fox, 17/06/2016 17:03:

I've been informed that what I said below isn't actually true; European
ID cards are indeed accepted as valid ID in the UK (and other
non-Schengen EU countries). Please disregard!


It's easy to get confused, because UK rips all the benefit of EU 
membership without giving any to the others. ;-)


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Joseph Fox, 17/06/2016 16:50:

if you are travelling from (for example) the United Kingdom, you will
need a passport. They will not allow you into the Schengen area without it.


http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm 
does not seem to agree with you.


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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Joseph Fox]

I've been informed that what I said below isn't actually true; European ID
cards are indeed accepted as valid ID in the UK (and other non-Schengen EU
countries). Please disregard!

red-facedly,
Joe

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 15:51 Joseph Fox  wrote:

> What Samat says is only true for Schengen-area countries; if you are
> travelling from (for example) the United Kingdom, you will need a passport.
> They will not allow you into the Schengen area without it.
>
> Though I imagine most of the Brits here will know that already. :)
>
> Joe
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 13:22 Samat  wrote:
>
>> As I know:
>> Inside the EU you should bring with you your official identity card
>> (released by one of the EU country) OR your passport.
>> If you arrive from outside the EU or you would like to cross the border
>> of the EU, you need your passport.
>> Special case is Switzerland (not member of the EU), which is only few km
>> from Esino Lario. For EU citizens, ID card or passport is required to step
>> into Switzerland.
>>
>> Best,
>> Samat
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Lluís Madurell Alemany <
>> lowis.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> For European Union citizens do we need to bring the passport? Is not
>>> enought with ID?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>> *Lluís Madurell AlemanyLluis_tgn*
>>>
>>> 2016-06-17 7:45 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa :
>>>
 Dear all
 yes. All the accommodation in Esino Lario have sheets and towels. We
 only have a building (scout centre ex-ristoro) for which we request a
 seeping bag or sheets, but it is a building we are using for some of the
 volunteers, in exceptional cases and we have already informed people about
 it.

 yes. In general there are no private bathrooms.
 Please bring your toiletry (you can also buy it in the shops of the
 village which will be open everyday June 22-27 with different longer times
 but more or less from 9 to 8) and your hairdryer if you need one (with the
 necessary adapter). I suggest you also to bring some warm cloths (sweater,
 jacket, umbrella and shoes for the rain - we expect 15-20 degrees which
 commonly is not very suitable for flip-flap), your adapter if needed, and
 some euro for taxi (taxi almost never accept visa), for your personal
 expenses and as deposit for your key if you are in Esino. There is a bank
 and ATM in Esino Lario but it can be quicker to change or to withdraw money
 at the airport or at the Milan railway station.

 To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
 1. a printed copy of your registration code
 2. a printed copy of your passport
 3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people
 staying in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you have it
 ready makes things quicker)

 thanks
 iolanda

 Il giorno 17 giu 2016, alle ore 01:30, Risker  ha
 scritto:


 On 16 June 2016 at 19:19, Lodewijk  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As I am preparing to leave, I was checking a few basic things, which I
> couldn't find in the documentation
> .
> Maybe it is obvious, or I overlooked it - apologies in that case.
>
> I was wondering what exactly is provided for in the accommodation.
> It's shared and simple rooms, probably with shared bathrooms etc. Could 
> you
> confirm it's a cheap hotel-like setting, where bed sheets, towels etc are
> provided for? It would save me luggage, so that would be great :) And am I
> correct to assume that toiletries are available somewhere in the village 
> if
> need be?
>
> Thanks for confirming!
>
>
 Hmmm.  According to the "Getting Ready" page[1], if you are assigned to
 a guesthouse or flat, they will provide bedding and towels.  I think it
 would be safe to assume the same for hotel rooms (although it is not
 specified).  However, there is specifically no mention of whether one needs
 to bring bedding/towels for the "specialty lodging" (dormitory).

 This was one of the reasons I wanted to know where I was staying,
 because I would have asked this very question myself if I'd been assigned
 to "specialty lodging".

 Risker/Anne

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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Joseph Fox]

What Samat says is only true for Schengen-area countries; if you are
travelling from (for example) the United Kingdom, you will need a passport.
They will not allow you into the Schengen area without it.

Though I imagine most of the Brits here will know that already. :)

Joe

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 at 13:22 Samat  wrote:

> As I know:
> Inside the EU you should bring with you your official identity card
> (released by one of the EU country) OR your passport.
> If you arrive from outside the EU or you would like to cross the border of
> the EU, you need your passport.
> Special case is Switzerland (not member of the EU), which is only few km
> from Esino Lario. For EU citizens, ID card or passport is required to step
> into Switzerland.
>
> Best,
> Samat
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Lluís Madurell Alemany <
> lowis.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> For European Union citizens do we need to bring the passport? Is not
>> enought with ID?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> *Lluís Madurell AlemanyLluis_tgn*
>>
>> 2016-06-17 7:45 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa :
>>
>>> Dear all
>>> yes. All the accommodation in Esino Lario have sheets and towels. We
>>> only have a building (scout centre ex-ristoro) for which we request a
>>> seeping bag or sheets, but it is a building we are using for some of the
>>> volunteers, in exceptional cases and we have already informed people about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> yes. In general there are no private bathrooms.
>>> Please bring your toiletry (you can also buy it in the shops of the
>>> village which will be open everyday June 22-27 with different longer times
>>> but more or less from 9 to 8) and your hairdryer if you need one (with the
>>> necessary adapter). I suggest you also to bring some warm cloths (sweater,
>>> jacket, umbrella and shoes for the rain - we expect 15-20 degrees which
>>> commonly is not very suitable for flip-flap), your adapter if needed, and
>>> some euro for taxi (taxi almost never accept visa), for your personal
>>> expenses and as deposit for your key if you are in Esino. There is a bank
>>> and ATM in Esino Lario but it can be quicker to change or to withdraw money
>>> at the airport or at the Milan railway station.
>>>
>>> To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
>>> 1. a printed copy of your registration code
>>> 2. a printed copy of your passport
>>> 3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people
>>> staying in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you have it
>>> ready makes things quicker)
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> iolanda
>>>
>>> Il giorno 17 giu 2016, alle ore 01:30, Risker  ha
>>> scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 June 2016 at 19:19, Lodewijk  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 As I am preparing to leave, I was checking a few basic things, which I
 couldn't find in the documentation
 .
 Maybe it is obvious, or I overlooked it - apologies in that case.

 I was wondering what exactly is provided for in the accommodation. It's
 shared and simple rooms, probably with shared bathrooms etc. Could you
 confirm it's a cheap hotel-like setting, where bed sheets, towels etc are
 provided for? It would save me luggage, so that would be great :) And am I
 correct to assume that toiletries are available somewhere in the village if
 need be?

 Thanks for confirming!


>>> Hmmm.  According to the "Getting Ready" page[1], if you are assigned to
>>> a guesthouse or flat, they will provide bedding and towels.  I think it
>>> would be safe to assume the same for hotel rooms (although it is not
>>> specified).  However, there is specifically no mention of whether one needs
>>> to bring bedding/towels for the "specialty lodging" (dormitory).
>>>
>>> This was one of the reasons I wanted to know where I was staying,
>>> because I would have asked this very question myself if I'd been assigned
>>> to "specialty lodging".
>>>
>>> Risker/Anne
>>>
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[Wikimania-l] Free seat in car

[Tomasz Ganicz]

Hi,

We just decided to hire a car - as we arrive to Orio (Bergamo airport) - at
20:50 pm. on 21-st, and it seems that there is no public transport to Esino
nor shuttle busses (the last one is at 7 pm). There are 3 of us - so if
anyone wants to join us (with small luggage, as it is going to be Fiat
Panda) - please contact me directly.

Cheers,



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Re: [Wikimania-l] accommodation details

[Samat]

As I know:
Inside the EU you should bring with you your official identity card
(released by one of the EU country) OR your passport.
If you arrive from outside the EU or you would like to cross the border of
the EU, you need your passport.
Special case is Switzerland (not member of the EU), which is only few km
from Esino Lario. For EU citizens, ID card or passport is required to step
into Switzerland.

Best,
Samat


On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Lluís Madurell Alemany <
lowis.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> For European Union citizens do we need to bring the passport? Is not
> enought with ID?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> -
>
>
> *Lluís Madurell AlemanyLluis_tgn*
>
> 2016-06-17 7:45 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa :
>
>> Dear all
>> yes. All the accommodation in Esino Lario have sheets and towels. We only
>> have a building (scout centre ex-ristoro) for which we request a seeping
>> bag or sheets, but it is a building we are using for some of the
>> volunteers, in exceptional cases and we have already informed people about
>> it.
>>
>> yes. In general there are no private bathrooms.
>> Please bring your toiletry (you can also buy it in the shops of the
>> village which will be open everyday June 22-27 with different longer times
>> but more or less from 9 to 8) and your hairdryer if you need one (with the
>> necessary adapter). I suggest you also to bring some warm cloths (sweater,
>> jacket, umbrella and shoes for the rain - we expect 15-20 degrees which
>> commonly is not very suitable for flip-flap), your adapter if needed, and
>> some euro for taxi (taxi almost never accept visa), for your personal
>> expenses and as deposit for your key if you are in Esino. There is a bank
>> and ATM in Esino Lario but it can be quicker to change or to withdraw money
>> at the airport or at the Milan railway station.
>>
>> To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
>> 1. a printed copy of your registration code
>> 2. a printed copy of your passport
>> 3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people staying
>> in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you have it ready
>> makes things quicker)
>>
>> thanks
>> iolanda
>>
>> Il giorno 17 giu 2016, alle ore 01:30, Risker  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>
>> On 16 June 2016 at 19:19, Lodewijk  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I am preparing to leave, I was checking a few basic things, which I
>>> couldn't find in the documentation
>>> .
>>> Maybe it is obvious, or I overlooked it - apologies in that case.
>>>
>>> I was wondering what exactly is provided for in the accommodation. It's
>>> shared and simple rooms, probably with shared bathrooms etc. Could you
>>> confirm it's a cheap hotel-like setting, where bed sheets, towels etc are
>>> provided for? It would save me luggage, so that would be great :) And am I
>>> correct to assume that toiletries are available somewhere in the village if
>>> need be?
>>>
>>> Thanks for confirming!
>>>
>>>
>> Hmmm.  According to the "Getting Ready" page[1], if you are assigned to a
>> guesthouse or flat, they will provide bedding and towels.  I think it would
>> be safe to assume the same for hotel rooms (although it is not specified).
>> However, there is specifically no mention of whether one needs to bring
>> bedding/towels for the "specialty lodging" (dormitory).
>>
>> This was one of the reasons I wanted to know where I was staying, because
>> I would have asked this very question myself if I'd been assigned to
>> "specialty lodging".
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>>
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[Lluís Madurell Alemany]

Hi all

For European Union citizens do we need to bring the passport? Is not
enought with ID?

Thanks.


-


*Lluís Madurell AlemanyLluis_tgn*

2016-06-17 7:45 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa :

> Dear all
> yes. All the accommodation in Esino Lario have sheets and towels. We only
> have a building (scout centre ex-ristoro) for which we request a seeping
> bag or sheets, but it is a building we are using for some of the
> volunteers, in exceptional cases and we have already informed people about
> it.
>
> yes. In general there are no private bathrooms.
> Please bring your toiletry (you can also buy it in the shops of the
> village which will be open everyday June 22-27 with different longer times
> but more or less from 9 to 8) and your hairdryer if you need one (with the
> necessary adapter). I suggest you also to bring some warm cloths (sweater,
> jacket, umbrella and shoes for the rain - we expect 15-20 degrees which
> commonly is not very suitable for flip-flap), your adapter if needed, and
> some euro for taxi (taxi almost never accept visa), for your personal
> expenses and as deposit for your key if you are in Esino. There is a bank
> and ATM in Esino Lario but it can be quicker to change or to withdraw money
> at the airport or at the Milan railway station.
>
> To accelerate the registration please prepare for us
> 1. a printed copy of your registration code
> 2. a printed copy of your passport
> 3. if possible 10 euro as a deposit for your key (only for people staying
> in Esino Lario; we will not ask it to everyone but if you have it ready
> makes things quicker)
>
> thanks
> iolanda
>
> Il giorno 17 giu 2016, alle ore 01:30, Risker  ha
> scritto:
>
>
> On 16 June 2016 at 19:19, Lodewijk  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I am preparing to leave, I was checking a few basic things, which I
>> couldn't find in the documentation
>> .
>> Maybe it is obvious, or I overlooked it - apologies in that case.
>>
>> I was wondering what exactly is provided for in the accommodation. It's
>> shared and simple rooms, probably with shared bathrooms etc. Could you
>> confirm it's a cheap hotel-like setting, where bed sheets, towels etc are
>> provided for? It would save me luggage, so that would be great :) And am I
>> correct to assume that toiletries are available somewhere in the village if
>> need be?
>>
>> Thanks for confirming!
>>
>>
> Hmmm.  According to the "Getting Ready" page[1], if you are assigned to a
> guesthouse or flat, they will provide bedding and towels.  I think it would
> be safe to assume the same for hotel rooms (although it is not specified).
> However, there is specifically no mention of whether one needs to bring
> bedding/towels for the "specialty lodging" (dormitory).
>
> This was one of the reasons I wanted to know where I was staying, because
> I would have asked this very question myself if I'd been assigned to
> "specialty lodging".
>
> Risker/Anne
>
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