Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[Gnangarra]

I think the videos are a great idea I did one back in 2012 in Washington, I
think that its important for our stories to be captured by the WMF so that
people can understand some of the people behind making Wikipedia.  Our
history and our people are as important as those that we are sharing

Please get behind Victor and make this happen, I'd offer to do another but
I wont be in Montreal

On 4 August 2017 at 13:28, Yongmin H.  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't think this is an appropriate topic ('paid editor') for
> wikimania-l, in a thread for 'personal stories about Wikimedia / free
> portrait photos'.
>
> Thanks.
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> 2017. 8. 4. 14:24 Peter Southwood  작성:
>
> What would you consider a significant percentage?
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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> ] *On Behalf Of *Pine W
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>
>
>
> For what it's worth, I agree with Kudpung that WMF should stop saying that
> "All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers". I doubt that
> anyone has reliable statistics on what percentages of articles are started
> and/or edited by individuals who likely benefit financially from their
> edits in one way or another, but the percentage on English Wikipedia is
> likely to be significant.
>
> Pine
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:45 AM, cs  wrote:
>
> ‘All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers’
>
>
>
> You’ll need to correct that for your next video - if you knew the extent
> of paid editing, blackmail, and extortion we are discovering and trying to
> combat you’d fall off your chair or drop your camera.
>
>
>
> Kudpung
>
> On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:33, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Wikimedians!
>
> My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and video producer
>  at the
> Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you
> may already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from
> Thursday August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if
> you *know someone *or *are someone* who has an inspiring story to share
> about how you use Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!
>
>
>
> If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private
> Google form or share it with someone you know who will be attending
> Wikimania:
>
> https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2
>
> (All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without
> first getting your written permission.)
>
>
> We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/
>
>
>
> Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo
>  
> for
> free to publish on Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August
> 10th through Sunday August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time
> to take your photo and we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll
> have a better idea of where I'll be for the best lighting setup.
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas -
> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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>
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>
> and Storyteller
>
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[Yongmin H.]

Hi,

I don't think this is an appropriate topic ('paid editor') for wikimania-l, in 
a thread for 'personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos'.

Thanks.

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2017. 8. 4. 14:24 Peter Southwood  작성:

> What would you consider a significant percentage?
> Peter
>  
> From: Wikimania-l [mailto:wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Pine W
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 11:19 PM
> To: Wikimania general list (open subscription)
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait 
> photos
>  
> For what it's worth, I agree with Kudpung that WMF should stop saying that 
> "All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers". I doubt that 
> anyone has reliable statistics on what percentages of articles are started 
> and/or edited by individuals who likely benefit financially from their edits 
> in one way or another, but the percentage on English Wikipedia is likely to 
> be significant.
> 
> Pine
>  
>  
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:45 AM, cs  wrote:
> ‘All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers’
>  
> You’ll need to correct that for your next video - if you knew the extent of 
> paid editing, blackmail, and extortion we are discovering and trying to 
> combat you’d fall off your chair or drop your camera.
>  
> Kudpung
> On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:33, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>  
> Hello Wikimedians!
> 
> My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and video producer at the 
> Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you may 
> already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from Thursday 
> August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if you know 
> someone or are someone who has an inspiring story to share about how you use 
> Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!
>  
> If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private Google 
> form or share it with someone you know who will be attending Wikimania:
> 
> https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2
> (All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without 
> first getting your written permission.)
> 
> We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/
>  
> Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo for free to publish on 
> Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August 10th through Sunday 
> August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time to take your photo and 
> we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll have a better idea of where 
> I'll be for the best lighting setup.
> 
> If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas - 
> vgri...@wikimedia.org
> 
> Thank you!
>  
> --
>  
> Victor Grigas
> Video Production Manager
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[Peter Southwood]

What would you consider a significant percentage? 

Peter

 

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Pine W
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 11:19 PM
To: Wikimania general list (open subscription)
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait 
photos

 

For what it's worth, I agree with Kudpung that WMF should stop saying that "All 
of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers". I doubt that anyone 
has reliable statistics on what percentages of articles are started and/or 
edited by individuals who likely benefit financially from their edits in one 
way or another, but the percentage on English Wikipedia is likely to be 
significant.



Pine

 

 

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:45 AM, cs  wrote:

‘All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers’

 

You’ll need to correct that for your next video - if you knew the extent of 
paid editing, blackmail, and extortion we are discovering and trying to combat 
you’d fall off your chair or drop your camera.

 

Kudpung

On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:33, Victor Grigas  wrote:

 

Hello Wikimedians!

My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and  
 video producer at the 
Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you may 
already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from Thursday 
August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if you know 
someone or are someone who has an inspiring story to share about how you use 
Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!

 

If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private Google 
form or share it with someone you know who will be attending Wikimania:

  https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2

(All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without first 
getting your written permission.)


We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
  
https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/

 

Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo 
  
for free to publish on Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August 
10th through Sunday August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time to 
take your photo and we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll have a 
better idea of where I'll be for the best lighting setup.

If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas -  
 vgri...@wikimedia.org

Thank you!

 

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and Storyteller

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[Lodewijk]

For what its worth (apparently very little), I fully agree with Luca.

Please start a different thread about this (and probably on a more suitable
list), and I'll happily join in.

Lodewijk

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> For what it's worth, I agree with Kudpung that WMF should stop saying that
> "All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers". I doubt that
> anyone has reliable statistics on what percentages of articles are started
> and/or edited by individuals who likely benefit financially from their
> edits in one way or another, but the percentage on English Wikipedia is
> likely to be significant.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:45 AM, cs  wrote:
>
>> ‘All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers’
>>
>> You’ll need to correct that for your next video - if you knew the extent
>> of paid editing, blackmail, and extortion we are discovering and trying to
>> combat you’d fall off your chair or drop your camera.
>>
>> Kudpung
>>
>> On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:33, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Wikimedians!
>>
>> My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and video producer
>>  at the
>> Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you
>> may already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from
>> Thursday August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if
>> you *know someone *or *are someone* who has an inspiring story to share
>> about how you use Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!
>>
>> If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private
>> Google form or share it with someone you know who will be attending
>> Wikimania:
>>
>> https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2
>> (All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without
>> first getting your written permission.)
>>
>> We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/
>>
>> Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo
>> 
>>  for
>> free to publish on Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August
>> 10th through Sunday August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time
>> to take your photo and we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll
>> have a better idea of where I'll be for the best lighting setup.
>>
>> If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas -
>> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Victor Grigas*
>> Video Production Manager
>> and Storyteller
>> Wikimedia Foundation 
>> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org/
>>
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[Pine W]

For what it's worth, I agree with Kudpung that WMF should stop saying that
"All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers". I doubt that
anyone has reliable statistics on what percentages of articles are started
and/or edited by individuals who likely benefit financially from their
edits in one way or another, but the percentage on English Wikipedia is
likely to be significant.

Pine


On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:45 AM, cs  wrote:

> ‘All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers’
>
> You’ll need to correct that for your next video - if you knew the extent
> of paid editing, blackmail, and extortion we are discovering and trying to
> combat you’d fall off your chair or drop your camera.
>
> Kudpung
>
> On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:33, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>
> Hello Wikimedians!
>
> My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and video producer
>  at the
> Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you
> may already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from
> Thursday August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if
> you *know someone *or *are someone* who has an inspiring story to share
> about how you use Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!
>
> If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private
> Google form or share it with someone you know who will be attending
> Wikimania:
>
> https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2
> (All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without
> first getting your written permission.)
>
> We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/
>
> Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo
>  
> for
> free to publish on Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August
> 10th through Sunday August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time
> to take your photo and we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll
> have a better idea of where I'll be for the best lighting setup.
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas -
> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
>
> *Victor Grigas*
> Video Production Manager
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[Pine W]

Hi Bluerasberry,

I believe that you have a project similar to this. Perhaps you and Victor
could coordinate your efforts.

Pine


On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Victor Grigas 
wrote:

> Hello Wikimedians!
>
> My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and video producer
>  at the
> Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you
> may already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from
> Thursday August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if
> you *know someone *or *are someone* who has an inspiring story to share
> about how you use Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!
>
> If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private
> Google form or share it with someone you know who will be attending
> Wikimania:
>
> https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2
> (All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without
> first getting your written permission.)
>
> We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/
>
> Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo
>  for
> free to publish on Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August
> 10th through Sunday August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time
> to take your photo and we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll
> have a better idea of where I'll be for the best lighting setup.
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas -
> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
>
> *Victor Grigas*
> Video Production Manager
> and Storyteller
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[Wikimania-l] WMCON Follow-Up Day during Wikimania's preconference

[Cornelius Kibelka]

Hello, hello, dear Wikimanians,

as in previous years, we will host again a so-called "WMCON Follow-Up Day"
during the preconference of Wikimania. It will take place on August 10,
from 9:00 to 17:00 in room Joyce of the Sheraton Hotel.

The WMCON Follow-Up Day invites Wikimedians to continue conversations and
pick up topics that were discussed at the Wikimedia Conference 2017 in
Berlin. Even if you haven't attended the Wikimedia Conference, you are more
than invited to drop by.

We have now finalized the schedule: 6 exciting sessions will take place,
always two in parallel. A short list of the titles including speakers:

   - *Conferences in the Wikimedia movement*, by Kacie Harold
   - *Communications Committee update*, by Greg Varnum
   - *Volunteer Support: What makes the difference?*, by Veronika Krämer &
   Raimund Liebert
   - *EU Advocacy: Next steps in the process*, by Dimitar Dimitrov
   - *Partnerships in the Wikimedia movement*, by Adele Vrana and team &
   Nikki Zeuner
   - *Board member support*, by Frans Grijsenhout

You can find more details on wiki:
https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMCON_Follow-Up_Day

Feel free top drop by. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to send
me an email.

Best regards & see you soon in Montréal,

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[Wikimania-l] WikiWomen's Lunch during Wikimania 2017

[Katie Chan]

Hi all,

For anyone who identify significantly as a woman and will be in Montréal 
next week for Wikimania, please consider coming along to the annual 
WikiWomen's Lunch on Saturday August 12.


If you are planning on coming, please sign up on the event page: 
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Hope to see many of you there,

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[Luca Martinelli]

Sorry, just a general and kind request to *stick to the topic*.

If you want to discuss copyvio and/or paid editing and/or potentially
criminal behaviour of users, please change the topic accordingly.

Thank you.

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Personal stories about Wikimedia / free portrait photos

[WereSpielChequers]

I don't know about other projects, but the English Wikipedia imported a
large amount of text from an out of copyright encyclopaedia, the 1910
version of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. I'm sure much of that is still
there, and while the writers of it will be long dead they probably weren't
anyone's volunteers at the time, certainly not ours. We also incorporate
lots of quotes, especially if they are out of copyright.

You can sort of shuffle round the spam problems that Kudpung mentions
because they are mostly unwanted and not part of the design (though we are
happy if someone with a conflict of interest posts a suggested extra
paragraph on a talkpage and another editor makes it more neutral and  adds
it to the article.).. But the out of copyright public domain bits,
those are part of the design ‘All of the articles on Wikipedia are written
by volunteers’ is not a statement that fully reflects our aims as a
movement. Remember we are part of the open source movement, and much of our
content especially the images but also some of the text is from other open
sources. If we try to imply that we think of wikipedia as only feeding into
the pool of open source material and not receiving and using openly
licensed material from others then we undermine our role of being
aggregators and editors as well as writers and photographers.

That said if the video contains the phrase ‘All of the articles on
Wikipedia are written by volunteers’ I managed to watch it twice and blink
and miss it both times. I liked that video, thanks for doing it. If I was
going to be pedantic about it I'd point out that people do come to
Wikipedia every day trying to slant it or hide things, but we have a large
community of volunteers who resist and usually revert that. Also it was
great to see the confidence of people saying that everything was sourced,
and of course if you add info and want it to stick you need to source it.
However we are a long long way from moving from our policy of verifiable to
one of verified, let alone of finding sources for the vast amount of
unverified information that we already have.


On 2 August 2017 at 18:48, Lodewijk  wrote:

> Hey Kudpong,
>
> Those people are still volunteers from the perspective of Wikipedia - they
> are not being paid by the Wikimedia Foundation. If true, it is a worrying
> development, but perhaps not a reason for Victor to change his videos.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:45 PM, cs  wrote:
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>> ‘All of the articles on Wikipedia are written by volunteers’
>>
>> You’ll need to correct that for your next video - if you knew the extent
>> of paid editing, blackmail, and extortion we are discovering and trying to
>> combat you’d fall off your chair or drop your camera.
>>
>> Kudpung
>>
>> On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:33, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Wikimedians!
>>
>> My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and video producer
>>  at the
>> Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you
>> may already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from
>> Thursday August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if
>> you *know someone *or *are someone* who has an inspiring story to share
>> about how you use Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!
>>
>> If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private
>> Google form or share it with someone you know who will be attending
>> Wikimania:
>>
>> https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2
>> (All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without
>> first getting your written permission.)
>>
>> We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/
>>
>> Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo
>>  for
>> free to publish on Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August
>> 10th through Sunday August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time
>> to take your photo and we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll
>> have a better idea of where I'll be for the best lighting setup.
>>
>> If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas -
>> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Victor Grigas*
>> Video Production Manager
>> and Storyteller
>> Wikimedia Foundation 
>> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org/
>>
>>
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