Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 113, Issue 12
I agree with Pau.Deror From: wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 113, Issue 12 Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Video recording of Wikimania sessions (Pau Giner) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:32:05 +0200 From: Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org To: kerry.raym...@gmail.com, Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Video recording of Wikimania sessions Message-ID: CALRPo1CGXrzpT7=zvjsstiosr4-qfnc9nyejuldnbm8nrzz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 However, I would suggest looking hard at the stats on how often videos are viewed (and if there is a way to know if they are viewed all the way through or not). For Wikimania 2014, the Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/WikimaniaLondon/videos and livestream https://livestream.com/wikimania show some stats (videos are also available in Commons so some views may not be captured in the former pages). On livestream, were videos were shared first, the most viewed video shows 2,359 views, it is not hard to find videos in the 100-500 view range, and others just have less than 20 views. Personally, even though I attended Wikimania this year I'd like to have recordings available in order to (a) view sessions I was interested in but I had to miss due to parallel tracks, and (b) be able to distribute the recordings about the projects I'm involved in with the people that are interested in those projects. Pau On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: As someone who has never attended a Wikimania but would like to, I don’t think videos are the solution. As someone who has organised conferences and had this issue of videoing come up, again I don’t think videos are the solution. Folks who can’t attend events for whatever reason do ask for videos (I’ve done it too!). However, I would suggest looking hard at the stats on how often videos are viewed (and if there is a way to know if they are viewed all the way through or not). I know that I might look at videos of a couple of keynotes and maybe some talk that someone really recommends to me knowing my interest, but I would be genuinely unlikely to look at a whole lot of them. When people say “I wish I could go to Wikimania”, I don’t think they are saying “I wish I could listen to those talks”. Conferences are much more about the opportunity to interact, including the opportunity to interact in relation to the talks. Also, when you go to a conference, you are committed to setting aside those days of your life to focussing on the conference (well, that used to be the case, now with mobile devices and wifi, everyone sits in conferences reading their email, checking FaceBook, and keeping on top of their job back home, and generally misses hearing the talks even though they are in the same room!). If you aren’t going to the conference, you don’t have the big block of time in your life set aside to watch all the videos. Also a conference generates its own excitement, you’re there and your endorphins are working overtime. With watching videos after the event, you don’t have that buzz. When I watch videos, I know I often give them my attention for a couple of minutes, then have them going while I read email or whatever – the video finishes and I haven’t heard it as my mind has been elsewhere. And, no matter what people say, there is a lot of work involved in creating videos both during the event and in postprocessing after the event. People say “quality doesn’t matter” in advance but then people complain afterwards if the quality isn’t perfect (can’t see the speaker clearly, can’t hear the speaker clearly, can’t see the slide projection). Again people say this can be done with volunteers, but actually your volunteers are wanting to engage with the conference, not spend the whole conference messing around with video equipment. And if the videos are not captured well in the first place, it’s hard to fix those problems after the event. Also video postprocessing is mostly done after the event (it’s too busy during the event). What people (who don’t organise conferences) don’t seem to understand is that for organisers,
Re: [Wikimania-l] remind me - where was the discussion and explanation on changing the venue?...
Just to add - transportation was not a consideration to moving the conference to the Hilton, however this solved the serious transportation issues, and allowed starting the conference an hour earlier every day, and ending later, thus allowing time in the scheduled and allowing acceptance of about 30 more talks.Deror (Programme team) From: wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 3:00 PM Subject: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 113, Issue 9 Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: remind me - where was the discussion and explanation on changing the venue?... (Ellie Young) 2. Re: remind me - where was the discussion and explanation on changing the venue?... (Joseph Fox) 3. Re: Fwd: Wikimania Scholarship (praveenp) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 15:23:12 -0700 From: Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] remind me - where was the discussion and explanation on changing the venue?... Message-ID: e6f9aef4-4ad9-46e8-b507-20885d49d...@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Back in May when we announced to this mailing list that registration was open we included the following: * WMF and WM-MX are grateful to Conaculta and the Biblioteca Vasconcelos for their kind offer to host the conference at the magnificent Biblioteca. However, due to logistical issues, we had to change the venue to the Hilton Hotel La Reforma. We will continue to work with both Conaculta and the Biblioteca Vasconcelos to leverage the experience and capacity of all institutions to generate and disseminate content that guarantees free and open knowledge to the whole of society. The biggest logistical issue at the Biblioteca that wasn’t resolved at that time was being able to guarantee that our connectivity requirements could be met. Ellie Young WMF Conference Coordinator On Aug 2, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com wrote: Hello, In the 2014 Wikimania bidding process the library was advertised as the conference venue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioteca_Vasconcelos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblioteca_Vasconcelos https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Mexico_City/Biblioteca_Vasconcelos https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Mexico_City/Biblioteca_Vasconcelos At some point the venue changed to the Hilton Hotel. I had been excited that there would be a conference in a library. We had a nice conference just the same. Where can I find whatever published explanation and discussion there has been about the venue change? Also- thanks to all volunteer organizers for presenting a great Mexico conference. Everyone who contributed should be very proud and I hope that no one criticizes anything that any of the volunteers did. The conference was great thanks to the volunteer organizers. Thanks, -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com mailto:l...@bluerasberry.com___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20150802/26c39bf8/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 22:54:14 + From: Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] remind me - where was the discussion and explanation on changing the venue?... Message-ID: cabpf5dmaccxgp5oaixdomqskw4gx4rdtqfpy63ctusm1fo7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I imagine another major aspect was getting hundreds of scholarship recipients and WMF staff from the hotel all the way across town to the library at 8.30am every morning. :( On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 at 23:23 Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: Back in May when we announced to this mailing list that registration was open we included the following: * WMF and WM-MX are grateful to Conaculta and the Biblioteca Vasconcelos for their kind offer to host the
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties (Ellie Young)
Dear Ellie, Will there be any food anywhere? You seem to be hungry. deror Sent from my iPad On 7 באוג 2014, at 21:44, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties (Ellie Young) 2. Re: Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties (Ellie Young) 3. Re: Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties (Chris Keating) 4. Re: Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties (Luca Martinelli) 5. Re: Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties (Nkansah Rexford) 6. Re: Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties (Chris McKenna) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:27:00 -0700 From: Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org To: open subscription wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties Message-ID: 5da048b3-858f-45d0-8e56-90383a893...@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is just to remind delegates that there will be the following social events WITH FOOD AND DRINK as follows here at Wikimania '14 in London: Friday Aug 7th6-7 p.m. Lower Foyer -1 - Opening Reception -Lots of Food and Drinks provided!! Saturday Aug 9th 6-7 p.m. - Lower Foye -1 - Conference Reception - Lots of Food and Drinks provided Sunday Aug 10th 6-7 p.m. Closing Party begins with drinks and hor d'oeuvres. Bon apetit! Ellie -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:43:50 -0700 From: Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org To: Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Cc: open subscription wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties Message-ID: bd0a49b5-eba7-4d22-bee7-d35d76c87...@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Oh dear!!! I got the date right and the day wrong. But yes food and drink tonight. THURSDAY Aug 7th should be the correct evening for the opening reception. There are no receptions on Friday. Ellie On Aug 7, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey Ellie, will there be food tonight as well? Nicole Ebber International Affairs http://wikimedia.de On 7 Aug 2014 17:27, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is just to remind delegates that there will be the following social events WITH FOOD AND DRINK as follows here at Wikimania '14 in London: Friday Aug 7th 6-7 p.m. Lower Foyer -1 - Opening Reception -Lots of Food and Drinks provided!! Saturday Aug 9th 6-7 p.m. - Lower Foye -1 - Conference Reception - Lots of Food and Drinks provided Sunday Aug 10th 6-7 p.m. Closing Party begins with drinks and hor d'oeuvres. Bon apetit! Ellie ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20140807/87ef472f/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:31:22 +0100 From: Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list,(open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania London - Receptions/Parties Message-ID: CAFche1pHYr7FBOuMYSN1ehANGhktnguaWF=j2yobp8dbpjz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 So no beach party this year? ?? On 7 Aug 2014 17:27, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is just to remind delegates that there will be the following social events WITH FOOD AND DRINK as follows here at Wikimania '14 in London: Friday Aug 7th 6-7 p.m. Lower Foyer -1 - Opening Reception -Lots of Food and Drinks provided!! Saturday Aug 9th 6-7 p.m. - Lower Foye -1 - Conference Reception - Lots of Food and Drinks provided Sunday Aug 10th 6-7 p.m. Closing Party begins with drinks and hor d'oeuvres. Bon apetit! Ellie ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20140807/bc62efa6/attachment-0001.html
[Wikimania-l] WLM Meetup/Discussion
can we do a WLM Meetup / Discussion to prepare for this year and decide on international contest on Sunday? Deror ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options
In Wikimania Haifa we allowed payment and registration in cash on site at the conference. I know this is possible as well in London, so what is the problem. those who pay in cash do not receive a T shirt. Deror Sent from my iPad On 7 ביונ 2014, at 15:00, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Registration payment options (Martijn Hoekstra) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 06:22:18 -0700 From: Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options Message-ID: can8a5noz7vuqs5_dh2wugx-4a8kdq0istws_wskfkdqc5eg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: In the interest of providing free knowledge for all(/me), how is Paypal better where credit/debit cards don't work? (I would assume you still have to get your money into Paypal somehow.) Best regards, Bence Hi Bence, In my case too, PayPal uses direct debit to charge the amount payed with PayPal to my bank account. --Martijn On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Stuart Prior stuart.pr...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Thanks Federico for pointing that out. Best Stuart On 4 June 2014 17:24, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Stuart Prior, 04/06/2014 16:33: there are effective and commonly used bank transfer systems in some European countries Some? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area Nemo ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- *Stuart Prior* *Wikimania Liaison* *Wikimedia UK* +44 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20140606/1f8ba12a/attachment-0001.html -- ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l End of Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 99, Issue 19 *** ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] A thought: Different tracks
I do like the idea of wikimania wide speed dating. As for discussions, those may be carried out in an improvised way throughout the conference, but to be most effective they should appear in the printed schedule, and placed in a time slot in which they do not collide with a similar talk or panel. such talks must be known and submitted and placed in the schedule at least two month before the conference taking in mind the graphics and printing time. (this year the printed program did not list a description of the talks and just gave title, and i hope next year will have a detailed program and perhaps a small short one inside the name tags again). This does not mean that additional discussion may not be added later or closer to the conference, but again - from my experience without proper listing of it beforehand it is not as effective. In DC I try to hold a discussion (such as this one) on the future of wikimania and its shape, during the unconference and very few came. This year the pannel attracted much more attention. Deror Sent from my iPad On 19 באוג 2013, at 01:55, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi Deror, while I appreciate your efforts, I feel it necessary to object to the picture you draw here about the discussions. Already in a very early stage I contacted the program committee, asking if it would be possible to set up a proper room for discussion tracks, and I even proposed a method to come to actual topics (and not outdated ones). However, the program committee insisted that I should simply 'submit' them as regular sessions. This is not how discussions work! There should be much more flexibility and much later deadlines for discussion sessions. I don't mean to blame anyone here, I just want to point out that because of how things went, I don't think it is fair to simply extrapolate. A full discussion track is very well possible, if you announce it as such, give it the tools it needs, and put a proper procedure in place for suggestions. The deadline should rather be 1 week before the conference than 3 months. I think I can come up with at least 5 people (not even counting you) who would be willing to lead one or two discussions, and who I think are capable to do so in a neutral way. At least, if organized. The hot seat model sounds interesting, although I would personally prefer to make Wikimania /less/ about WMF and more about the community. Another very different model that has been suggested many times but nobody has worked it out: wikimania wide speed dating. Set one plenary session aside, and allocate people table numbers. Yes, this includes the keynote speakers, Wikimania volunteers/organizers, board members and /all/ staff members that are in town! And connect them semi-randomly (ideally avoiding similar people somewhat). If we do that at the beginning of the conference, I'm sure that the rest will be so much more vivid and effective! Because after one hour of 8 x 5 min you know at least 8 people you never spoke before and probably would not have talked with otherwise! I'd love to find more ways to use Wikimania effectively to strengthen the community ties and improve exchange of thoughts and knowledge. Lodewijk 2013/8/18 Deror Avi deror_...@yahoo.com A Few emails have been circulating re the content and the programme of the conference, and I wish to put in my two cents. This year a track of discussions have been introduced. Though a full track (and rooms) have been set aside for this, a total of one discussion has been proposed to the programme committee (and has been accepted of course). I do agree with what Louis suggest, and with some of the things suggested. The breaks should remain breaks – time to rest, have coffee and have informal talks which are an important part of Wikimania. Time should also be set aside for discussions and for lightning talks, but the fact is – the community who comes to the conference does not propose discussions (and nobody volunteers to lead them). My experience from past conferences is that the unconference day is a waste of time. Most people already leave the conference and go touring or go home, and do not stay for the unconference talks. The fact is – no one wanted to lead a discussion this year, and no one came and said I want a basic course of Wikipedia editing. What we can do different next year is to impose some discussion time. I have suggested during the conference that next year we will have a discussion track set aside, where, for example, one day, every half hour, one WMF board member will be in the hot seat answering questions, the best of which will be asked again in the QA session for the whole gathering to hear. On the second day, WMF teams will be in the hot sit to answer legal or technical questions. I also suggest that WMF stuff will submit talks in which they conduct a tutorial to various
[Wikimania-l] Disneyland
anybody wandering what to do tomorrow ( i.e. monday)? deror ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 89, Issue 40
Just to let u know, wikimedia uk is doing a five o'clock tea party at the main courtyard right now. Sent from my iPad On 9 באוג 2013, at 15:26, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Francophones Wikimania Hong Kong 2013 (Benoit Rochon) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:26:13 +0800 From: Benoit Rochon broc...@wikimedia.ca To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org,francopho...@wikimedia.ch francopho...@wikimedia.ch Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Francophones Wikimania Hong Kong 2013 Message-ID: b81c7c56-854c-4515-99bf-d5d0a28c3...@wikimedia.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Bonjour, Juste un petit rappel pour la réunion des francophones ce soir 17:30-18:00 au local Y520. Détails: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rencontre_francophone Au plaisir de vous voir. Benoit. Envoyé de mon iPhone. Sent from my iPhone. Le 2013-07-31 à 00:37, JP Béland lebo.bel...@gmail.com a écrit : J'y serai. Ça marche pour moi, merci Ben pour t'en occuper. JP (aka Amqui) Le 30/07/2013, Benoit Rochonbroc...@wikimedia.ca a écrit : Je propose que la rencontre soit le vendredi 9 août à 18h. Je privilégie cette date parce que nous rencontrer au début de Wikimania permettra de tisser des liens et poursuivre des discussions tout au long du week-end. J'espère que cette date conviendra à un maximum de personnes. J'attend une confirmation pour le lieu... @Dimitar : Un chapitre bilingue est un défi pour le tenir à jour la doc dans les deux langues. Les champions sont les Suisses qui ont un site en 4 langues! Le cas du Canada est relativement aisé, car plusieurs de nos membres et la CA écrivent dans les deux langues officielles... par contre, nous demandons toujours du proofreading à ceux qui n'ont pas la même langue maternelle que l'auteur d'une communication. C'est du travail en double, mais le jeu en vaut la chandelle! Nous avons approuvé une politique de communicationshttp://wikimedia.ca/w/index.php?title=Politiques/Communicationssetlang=frdès le départ pour éviter les frictions entre nos deux communautés. Même sur Twitter nous possédons deux comptes : FR: @WikimediaCAfr https://twitter.com/WikimediaCAfr EN: @WikimediaCA https://twitter.com/WikimediaCA Cordialement Benoit Rochon -- Chargé de projet / Project manager Wikimédia Canada 3450, rue Saint-Denis, suite 180 Montréal (Québec) H2X 3L3 1-800-249-1216 WikimediaFoundation.org/Benoit Rochonhttp://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Benoit_Rochon http://wikimedia.ca Le 30 juillet 2013 05:09, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimit...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonee idée! En Belgique nous sommes en train de fonder un chapitre. Nous serions heureux d'être en contact avec des autres chapitres francophones. Peut-être WMCA a quelques conseils comment organiser un chapitre bilingue? J'ai me suis inscrit pour la rencontre à HK. Dimi 2013/7/30 Benoit Rochon broc...@wikimedia.ca (English follows) Bonjour à tous, Lors de Wikimania DC 2012, les chapitres francophones se sont rencontrés pour la première fois avec la volonté de discuter de WP-fr, de nos projets respectifs et d'une collaboration entre les chapitres francophones de Wikimédia. Je tâte actuellement le terrain pour voir si nous pourrions nous rencontrer encore une fois cette année, à Hong Kong. Bien sûr, cette rencontre est à l'état embryonnaire mais je me porte volontaire pour nous dénicher un endroit et organiser cette rencontre. Seriez-vous partant ? Voir la page de la rencontre sur Wikimania HKhttp://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rencontre_Francophone (veuillez suivre cette page). _ Hello everyone, At Wikimania DC 2012, the francophone chapters met for the first time with the aim to discuss WP-fr, our respective projects and collaboration between francophone Wikimedia chapters. I am currently testing the waters to see if we could meet again this year in Hong Kong. Of course, this meeting is in its infancy, but I volunteer for find a place to meet and organize this meeting. Would you be in? See page of the meeting on Wikimania HKhttp://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rencontre_Francophone(please follow this page). Benoit Rochon -- Chargé de projet / Project manager
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2013 keynote - suggestions
Another option: Salman Khan. We had him in mind for Haifa in 2011. And I meen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Khan_(educator) And not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Khan Deror___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] UK budget plan for 2014 Wikimania bid
I agree with what was said by Manuel. I am in favour of larger events (we do not stop people from writing in Wikipedia, and all who can afford it should come to wikimania). I am in favour of professional events - where schedule is kept, and Wifi is working, and food is tasty and sufficient. All a good bid needs in the first stage is to describe a good venue (which is well located near cheep dorms and reasonable hotels). No money is required for that. At the second stage the bid should include a reasonable budget – for that all that is required is a list of quotes form companies – again – no cost is needed. I am against wasting donors money. In my personal opinion, the best bid is done by legwork (going to see the venue and places around it), writing letters and having meeting. This can be done by volunteers. So my personal opinion is that the bid should cost 0$. At most - have the chapter pay for public transportation for going to the meetings. But what do I know. Deror___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] A friend is arriving at Monday, 9th, at the evening to Regan and needs help
A fellow wikipedian is arriving at Monday, 9th July, in the evening to DC Reagan airport and needs help to get himself and his suitcase to the dorms. Is anyone else is landing at that time? He is landing at 6:40pm. Can anyone assist? Deror ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] visa denied ... what to do?
All countries have visa issues, and visa is a major consideration when choosing a location for wikimania (or at least was a major consideration this year when Hong Kong was chosen). It was also a major consideration, and was taken into account when DC was chosen. There is only so much a local team can do about this, and usually the best solution is for the local team to have close contacts with the relevant consular officer, and for the attendees to apply for visa as early as possible. The only true solution is diversifying location for holding the conference and this was indeed done the past years. I do not think a permanent WF Wikimania team is a feasible or a successful option. An advise may be given, and is welcome, but it is for the local bidding team to do the work. I plan to lead a discussion during the Unconference about bidding for Wikimania, and preparing for one, and invite you all to attend. Deror___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] bus NYC-washington
I am planing to go by train to DC on Monday morning. Dont have a ticket yet, Would love to go with other wikipedians. Deror___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
[Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012 Google Opening Reception at the Library of Congress
So, what is the dress code? Suite, Tie, or just a nice buttoned shirt? Deror ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27
Hotel prices seem too expensive. I went back and checked the bid: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids/Washington,_D.C. It specificaly mentioned cheaper options - and to be specific - hostels for 48$ per night. Most wikipedians can not afford much more (we are talking about 6 nights so 1t $180 we reach almost $1,000 for accomodations, without meals, and including flghts it may reach $2,500 per attendee). I do not know how it is in your country, but in my opinion, most attendees can not afford that without full scholarships. Deror --- On Sun, 4/22/12, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: From: wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27 To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:32 PM Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Maarten Dammers) 2. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Sage Ross) 3. Re: Scholarship and early registration (stephen wanjau) 4. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton) 5. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Samat) 6. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Tomasz Koz?owski) 7. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton) 8. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:09:39 +0200 From: Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: 4f940313.8020...@mdammers.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef: You are so impatient, Orsi :) Sage said:/very/ close. This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012. It's a bit like the hotels, almost done since the beginning of April. Maarten -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20120422/d2db2f2f/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:27:01 -0400 From: Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: ca+qewsnth6r+djgf7nri+tfysy76fjpzu3f-bz4xqso+skh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Yes. We're sorry it took so long. Results went out Friday. Chapter scholarships should be finalized soon. On the plus side, we expect to leave next year's team in a good position to launch the process early. -Sage (sent from my phone) On Apr 22, 2012 9:09 AM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef: You are so impatient, Orsi :) Sage said:* very* close. This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012. It's a bit like the hotels, almost done since the beginning of April. Maarten ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20120422/21e0435b/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:48:20 +0300 From: stephen wanjau stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: CAMgBHWnVMVQOBRsstA+VzCgB+-TSx0RL+etwXtGTPt2=v=n...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, I haven't received a feedback on my scholarship application status. best, [[user:stephenwanjau]] On 4/22/12, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. We're sorry it took so long. Results went out Friday. Chapter scholarships should be finalized soon. On the plus side, we expect to leave next year's team in a good
Re: [Wikimania-l] holidays around Wikimania (Amir E. Aharoni)
Having Wikimania during [[Tisha B'Av]] [1], the last day of [[The Three Weeks]] is a no go for all religious jews - not only Orthodox Jews. It is a long fast (26 hours long) which starts the day before, very much like Yom Kipur. Even I will not be able to attend Wikimania on that day (and the day before). Deror [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B%27Av___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
[Wikimania-l] Fw: [Wikimania-jury] [Wikimania-planning-l] What to do about 2012, and the future
I completely and adamantly disagree with Harel. Although some bbids are better then others, there are good suggestions already on the 2012 bid list (the Istanbul bid for example - considering the early stage) and other groups are considering bidding. I believe that wikimania should remain an annual event, and although it is complicated in time investing it is doable annually. We should consider a mechanism which will provide each winning time with the experience and knowledge of previous years to make things easier and to enable annual improvement, but there are many chapters and groups who want to host wikimania, and I am sure, that as the number of chapters annually increase, and the number of volunteers annually grow – there will be more and more competitors wishing to host wikimania. Deror From: Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org To: Coordination list for Wikimania. wikimania-plannin...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikimania jury list wikimania-j...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 1:53:37 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimania-jury] [Wikimania-planning-l] What to do about 2012, and the future 2011/1/19 Harel Cain harel.c...@gmail.com Wikimania-l is a public mailing list with hundreds of members whose relation to wikimania organizing and bidding can be quite remote. I don't mind moving it there, but my feeling is that most Wikimania experts and stakeholders are on one of the two lists I wrote to in my first mail. Harel On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I think that this is not the right list to bring up this discussion. Perhaps you could re-send your email to wikimania-l ? For now, although I have strong opinions, I will keep them to myself to avoid confusion :) Best, Lodewijk 2011/1/19 Harel Cain harel.c...@gmail.com Hi all, I'm not a member of this list (so include me in your replies, should you reply), and my comments below express my personal opinion only, which is not necessarily representative of the opinion of WM Israel or of the WM Haifa local team. I'm also copying the wikimania-planning-l list in case they're interested. As someone who attended Wikimania 2007, 2010 and is now spending countless hours together with other team members on preparing WM 2011, I wanted to raise a somewhat controversial idea, namely that in future years, Wikimania will be held once every two years (biannually) and not annually. The reason I'm saying this is not only the huge effort that has to be invested by the local team year after year, but what is potentially a lack of strong bids to host Wikimania 2012, as witnessed by this year's jury. Even if strong bids emerge for 2012 eventually, I'm sure that in years to come the problem will repeat and again we might face a situation where there are no strong bids at all. To me, the lack of strong bids is an indicator that holding a big, expensive and complex international conference in a changing location year after year is not very realistic in the long term - and Wikimania is just becoming ever more big, expensive and complex (for example, WM2011 will see at least three side events preceding/co-locating with it). Few international organizations do that. In fact, many international conferences such as the International Congress of Mathematicians are held every 4 years! I don't think it will be a bad sign for the Wikimedia movement / foundation to decide to hold Wikimania every two years, just a realistic understanding on its part that the tradition of annual Wikimanias is not very practical. I hope that eventually, someone will have the decision power and the courage to take this decision - if not for 2012 (I'm not advocating to skip WM2012 specifically, that's not my agenda), then in the future. Your thoughts? Yours, Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team (but speaking personally) ___ Wikimania-planning-l mailing list wikimania-plannin...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-planning-l ___ Wikimania-planning-l mailing list wikimania-plannin...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-planning-l -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. ___ Wikimania-planning-l mailing list wikimania-plannin...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-planning-l Yes, that is all very true. But whether or not we should have a Wikimania every year, is something that has impact on all those visitors, so they should have at least a say in that :) Also, they are your potential bidders for the future years, and all the experts are there /too/. You have the best of both worlds there imho. Lodewijk ___ Wikimania-l mailing
