Re: [Wikimedia-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2013: Hong Kong
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2013: Hong Kong
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use
On May 1, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, you removed some relevant language: Certain activities, whether legal or illegal, may be harmful to other users and violate our rules, and some activities may also subject you to liability. Therefore, for your own protection and for that of other users, *you may not engage in such activities on our sites*. These activities include: [..] Using the services in a manner that is inconsistent with applicable law. I think that expecting the ToS to condone violations of laws that are in some way anti-freedom is unrealistic. It seems like it would be difficult to craft language to do that well. ~Nathan Would you like an opportunity to phrase that language in a sense that does not suggest Wikimedia is in support of laws that are anti-freedom? -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] It seems to be that the point of this section is that WMF does not condone users to use the sites in a fashion which breaks their local laws; therefore WMF itself may not be procesuted for conspiracy nor will WMF be liable civilly to users who were prosecuted locally and wish to recieve compensation. If the WMF did not disavow an intention to promote locally illegal things (like Germans printing Swatika images found on Commons), they would be open to liability that would result money going to lawyers. Really very, very few countries have a right to free speech as strong as the US, including countries were WMF actually has significant assets. China is not the issue here. Encouraging people outside the US to live as though they live inside it, is neither wise nor ethical. BirgitteSB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use
birgitte...@yahoo.com, 03/05/2012 14:17: Encouraging people outside the US to live as though they live inside it, is neither wise nor ethical. On the other hand, this is what happens (o could have happened) in other parts of the Terms of use which apply to /users/ (not their contributions) the USA laws where they're more restrictive. The whole section Refraining from Certain Activities has this problem, which is very hard to avoid given that nobody really knows what the applicable law is. There was a lot of work on this part as well, I'm not able to judge the results. Both problems originate from the decision to enforce via a private contract the state laws (privatization of justice or statement of the obvious? I don't know). The old ToU left everything implicit (or were reticent, depending on how you see it). Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia)
[This essay was rudely rejected by the gatekeepers at Signpost calling it irrelevant but not explaining why. Could someone please suggest where I might submit this for a fair hearing by the WMF community?] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia) By Carmen Yarrusso Carmen Yarrusso, a software engineer for 35 years, designed and modified computer operating systems (including Internet software). He has a BS in physics and studied game theory and formal logic during his years with the math department at Brookhaven National Lab. He lives in New Hampshire and often writes about uncomfortable truths. Nobody can deny WMF has done a great service to humanity. Wikimedians and especially Wikipedians around the world deserve our utmost respect and gratitude for their outstanding efforts. But there's a political zeitgeist in the air that began with the Arab Spring that WMF can and should be part of. The WMF should stop pretending it's politically neutral (NPOV). The declared philosophy of the movement (see Movement roles/charter) expresses a clear political POV. There's lots of implied politics in trying to imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. WMF was part of an amicus brief in the past. There's been chapter and community political activism, including the recent Italian Wikipedia shutdown. The recent Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) forced WMF to take a clear political stance. WMF even helped organize an Internet Censorship Day: http://americancensorship.org/ , urging people to lobby Congress and petition the US state department against SOPA. That's political POV! But expressing POV on Internet censorship or expressing a commitment to free access to knowledge, transparency, openness, independence, quality, and privacy is fundamentally different than expressing POV in an encyclopedia article. The very essence of political knowledge is understanding and critically evaluating conflicting POV. Considering the present state and direction of our world, which is largely controlled by politics, isn't it time for the world's largest free knowledge resource to openly acknowledge that free political knowledge is at least as important to humanity as free encyclopedic knowledge? Isn't reliable knowledge about what our respective governments are doing in our names at least as important to our well being as reliable knowledge about the Brooklyn Bridge or the French Revolution? Encyclopedic knowledge becomes rather moot if we destroy our planet earth. Currently there's no comprehensive source of reliable political knowledge. Deceptive 30-second political ads on TV are certainly not a source of reliable political knowledge. Blathering TV pundits are not a source of reliable political knowledge. Even our mainstream media are not a source of reliable political knowledge. On the contrary, they often provide specious propaganda disguised as reliable political knowledge because their revenue is deeply dependent on special interest money. Though the Internet provides many sources of reliable political knowledge, it's spread out (hit or miss) and very difficult to assemble into a coherent body of knowledge on any given political issue. Thanks to WMF and the power of the Internet, countless millions of people around the world have access to a free source of vast, reliable encyclopedic knowledge. But these same countless millions have no source of reliable political knowledge, the kind of knowledge they need to critically evaluate the policies and actions of their government representatives. Why not? You Wikipedians have the power to change the downward spiral of the planet and to radically change the course of history by providing a free source of reliable political knowledge. By trying to maintain a staunch NPOV policy with no exceptions, the WMF has been throwing out the baby with the bath water. The WMF already has the infrastructure and the vast resources needed to provide the world with a free source of reliable political knowledge if it could get over this misplaced NPOV mindset and realize that political knowledge can be provided in a neutral manner where the WMF facilitates (necessarily POV) political knowledge without imposing its own political POV. How a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia) might work This idea is described in more detail under Proposals for new projects (see WikiArguments: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiArguments). Here are the basics of how a political knowledge Wikipedia would work as opposed to the present encyclopedic knowledge Wikipedia: For articles in the encyclopedic Wikipedia, NPOV makes perfect sense. But for articles in a political Wikipedia, POV
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: birgitte...@yahoo.com, 03/05/2012 14:17: Encouraging people outside the US to live as though they live inside it, is neither wise nor ethical. On the other hand, this is what happens (o could have happened) in other parts of the Terms of use which apply to /users/ (not their contributions) the USA laws where they're more restrictive. The whole section Refraining from Certain Activities has this problem, which is very hard to avoid given that nobody really knows what the applicable law is. There was a lot of work on this part as well, I'm not able to judge the results. Both problems originate from the decision to enforce via a private contract the state laws (privatization of justice or statement of the obvious? I don't know). The old ToU left everything implicit (or were reticent, depending on how you see it). Nemo It only makes sense to be somewhat explicit about the laws that apply, since they apply regardless of their presence in the ToU. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia)
As a fictional example, let's suppose some members of Congress propose legislation to build a new Brooklyn Bridge. Under the subject: HR 999 Proposal to build a new Brooklyn Bridge, there would be one pro and one con argument edited only by members of Congress and one pro and one con argument edited by the general public. Why would political knowledge need to presented with a POV? That merely encourages confirmation bias. Dividing viewpoints into two different strands doesn't sound much like informing, it sounds rather a lot like providing a platform for soapboxing :) Tom ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia)
As I understand it, part of the problem is that there are very strict rules on what the WMF can do as part of lobbying in the US. Under Section 501(c)(3), nonprofits are not allowed to use a substantial part of their spending on lobbying - meaning no more than 5% of the WMF's income can be spent on political lobbying. I'm not sure if this would fall under political lobbying, but it's rather close! It's also already done rather well by people like http://www.factcheck.org/. Let's not forget, as well, that what you're suggesting is very US-centric. Not all arguments are yes/no - well, technically all votes are, but there are also abstentions, and there are those who vote because it's the party line. There's also a few parts of the world where democracy is not considered a good system - this project wouldn't really help them. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 3 May 2012 15:00, Carmen yarru...@charter.net wrote: [This essay was rudely rejected by the gatekeepers at Signpost calling it irrelevant but not explaining why. Could someone please suggest where I might submit this for a fair hearing by the WMF community?] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia) By Carmen Yarrusso Carmen Yarrusso, a software engineer for 35 years, designed and modified computer operating systems (including Internet software). He has a BS in physics and studied game theory and formal logic during his years with the math department at Brookhaven National Lab. He lives in New Hampshire and often writes about uncomfortable truths. Nobody can deny WMF has done a great service to humanity. Wikimedians and especially Wikipedians around the world deserve our utmost respect and gratitude for their outstanding efforts. But there's a political zeitgeist in the air that began with the Arab Spring that WMF can and should be part of. The WMF should stop pretending it's politically neutral (NPOV). The declared philosophy of the movement (see Movement roles/charter) expresses a clear political POV. There's lots of implied politics in trying to imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. WMF was part of an amicus brief in the past. There's been chapter and community political activism, including the recent Italian Wikipedia shutdown. The recent Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) forced WMF to take a clear political stance. WMF even helped organize an Internet Censorship Day: http://americancensorship.org/ , urging people to lobby Congress and petition the US state department against SOPA. That's political POV! But expressing POV on Internet censorship or expressing a commitment to free access to knowledge, transparency, openness, independence, quality, and privacy is fundamentally different than expressing POV in an encyclopedia article. The very essence of political knowledge is understanding and critically evaluating conflicting POV. Considering the present state and direction of our world, which is largely controlled by politics, isn't it time for the world's largest free knowledge resource to openly acknowledge that free political knowledge is at least as important to humanity as free encyclopedic knowledge? Isn't reliable knowledge about what our respective governments are doing in our names at least as important to our well being as reliable knowledge about the Brooklyn Bridge or the French Revolution? Encyclopedic knowledge becomes rather moot if we destroy our planet earth. Currently there's no comprehensive source of reliable political knowledge. Deceptive 30-second political ads on TV are certainly not a source of reliable political knowledge. Blathering TV pundits are not a source of reliable political knowledge. Even our mainstream media are not a source of reliable political knowledge. On the contrary, they often provide specious propaganda disguised as reliable political knowledge because their revenue is deeply dependent on special interest money. Though the Internet provides many sources of reliable political knowledge, it's spread out (hit or miss) and very difficult to assemble into a coherent body of knowledge on any given political issue. Thanks to WMF and the power of the Internet, countless millions of people around the world have access to a free source of vast, reliable encyclopedic knowledge. But these same countless millions have no source of reliable political knowledge, the kind of knowledge they need to critically evaluate the policies and actions of their government representatives. Why not? You Wikipedians have the power to change the downward spiral of the
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2013: Hong Kong
Congratulations HK! On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: Congratulation Hong Kong! I'll be there. :) -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Patricio Molina http://twitter.com/patriciomolina ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] [Commons-POTY-l] 10th anniversary of Wikimedia Commons
So we will have a full-scale military parade celebrating commons in Brazil?
Nice!
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Mateus Nobre mateusfno...@gmail.com wrote:
Hahaha, right in the Brazilian independence day ;P
I am thinking in something really big.
Something like ''Wikimedia Commons, showing the world with free media''.
And, the best Common's images of all times, in a global scope (like, each
one of every nice place of our planet).
Good luck. {{support}}
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM, とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com
wrote:
The voting could be carried out with the global event. Vote eligibility
could be participating in the events for example.
Of course not every country will have an event so not sure if this
approach
is a good one.
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
2012/4/18 Tadija Mileti? atnimn...@hotmail.com
Hmm, and maybe something where we can invite more people to
Wikipedia?
Billboards with :
Join decade of knowledge. Participate! Write new article!
Or something similar. I am also against POT-DEC, poor thing for big
global
event such as this.
--WhiteWriter
*From:* Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:45 AM
*To:* Wikimedia Commons Discussion List common...@lists.wikimedia.org
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*Subject:* Re: [Commons-l] [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-POTY-l] 10th
anniversary of Wikimedia Commons
Why not a world wide Wikitakes or a Photowalk day that way everyone
everywhere can participate in it, no need for big off Commons
organisation
2012/4/18 とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com
I do not think we want to select POT-DEC (lets not call it POTD which
is
something else :) ) from older POTYs since we don't have a large
number
to
choose from. Also, it would be very boring to re-nominate the same
winner
again. If anything existing POTY winners perhaps should be
disqualified
for
this reason.
I am not too sure about the procedure would be best to be honest. I
hope
this discussion would determine that very aspect. :)
US GLAM is appealing but we do want something global. Certainly US
GLAM
partnerships should be part of it but they should not be all of it.
WikiLoves Monuments was a good precursor to this kind of activity.
Perhaps
a kind of lessons learned assessment may be useful while working on
this.
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:31, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs
wrote:
2012/4/17 とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com:
We already have POTY as an annual event so perhaps a decade
event could
be something interesting to consider.
The obvious: select POTD from all the POTYs :)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] [Commons-POTY-l] 10th anniversary of Wikimedia Commons
With all the rifles and stuff! :P
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM, とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com wrote:
So we will have a full-scale military parade celebrating commons in Brazil?
Nice!
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Mateus Nobre mateusfno...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hahaha, right in the Brazilian independence day ;P
I am thinking in something really big.
Something like ''Wikimedia Commons, showing the world with free media''.
And, the best Common's images of all times, in a global scope (like, each
one of every nice place of our planet).
Good luck. {{support}}
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM, とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com
wrote:
The voting could be carried out with the global event. Vote eligibility
could be participating in the events for example.
Of course not every country will have an event so not sure if this
approach
is a good one.
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
2012/4/18 Tadija Mileti? atnimn...@hotmail.com
Hmm, and maybe something where we can invite more people to
Wikipedia?
Billboards with :
Join decade of knowledge. Participate! Write new article!
Or something similar. I am also against POT-DEC, poor thing for big
global
event such as this.
--WhiteWriter
*From:* Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:45 AM
*To:* Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
common...@lists.wikimedia.org
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wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Commons-l] [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-POTY-l] 10th
anniversary of Wikimedia Commons
Why not a world wide Wikitakes or a Photowalk day that way everyone
everywhere can participate in it, no need for big off Commons
organisation
2012/4/18 とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com
I do not think we want to select POT-DEC (lets not call it POTD
which
is
something else :) ) from older POTYs since we don't have a large
number
to
choose from. Also, it would be very boring to re-nominate the same
winner
again. If anything existing POTY winners perhaps should be
disqualified
for
this reason.
I am not too sure about the procedure would be best to be honest. I
hope
this discussion would determine that very aspect. :)
US GLAM is appealing but we do want something global. Certainly US
GLAM
partnerships should be part of it but they should not be all of it.
WikiLoves Monuments was a good precursor to this kind of activity.
Perhaps
a kind of lessons learned assessment may be useful while working
on
this.
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:31, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs
wrote:
2012/4/17 とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com:
We already have POTY as an annual event so perhaps a decade
event could
be something interesting to consider.
The obvious: select POTD from all the POTYs :)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2013: Hong Kong
Congratulations to our brothers of Hong Kong. Hope to have a nice Wikimania 2013! There's other *amigos* who want to have to all in their country in a Wikimania 2016 XD 2012/5/3 Jeromy-Yu Chan (Jerry~Yuyu) jerry.tschan...@gmail.com Halo Everyone Thank you for your congratulations, we honored that we are awarded to host the 9th global Wikimedia Conference. our team will work as best as we can, to facilitate such conference, and meet your expectations. and we are lOOking forward to seeing you here in Hong Kong, and hope you will enjoy the conference! on behalf of Local Team, Wikimania 2013 -- Jeromy-Yu Chan, Jerry http://yuyu.be/txt http://about.me/jeromyu UID: Jeromyu (on Facebook, Twitter, Plurk most sites) Tel (Mobile): +852 9279 1601 Οὔτε τι τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων ἄξιον ὂν μεγάλης σπουδῆς ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- *Atentamente: Iván Martínez Coordinador General Wikimedia México mx.wikimedia.org Imagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso libre a la suma total del conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos haciendo http://es.wikipedia.org. * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] MathJax comes to Wikipedia
Am 03.05.2012 18:49, schrieb Erik Moeller: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtarabore...@wikimedia.org wrote: MathJax [1] is now enabled site-wide as an opt-in preference. You can now see beautifully rendered, accessible, copypasteable and standard-compliant (MathML) formulas on Wikipedia, replacing the old TeX-rendered PNGs. Thanks Dario. There are definitely still bugs in this experimental rendering mode, so please report issues in Bugzilla against the Math component: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensionscomponent=Math More here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math/MathJax_testing First try, first bug. ^^ https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36485 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK and British Library unveil latest Wikipedian in Residence
Hi everyone, Thought I'd drop you a line to let you know that our latest blog post is up. It's announcing that Andrew Gray is Wikimedia UK's latest Wikipedian in Residence. He'll be working from the British Library in London. You can read the post at http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/05/wikimedia-uk-and-british-library-unveil-latest-wikipedian-in-residence/ I hope you enjoy it! Stevie -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia)
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Carmen yarru...@charter.net wrote: For example, in the encyclopedic Wikipedia, there's one article called Brooklyn Bridge... Actually, I've just considered this a bit longer (for my sins). It occurs to me that perhaps you're not looking at big issues (like abortion) but you perhaps mean something that would invigorate local politics? You did give the example of building a bridge after all. I suppose that would be an innovation: a wiki that covers political issues that would be considered non-notable on Wikipedia. The trouble you're going to have then, though, is participation. How many people are going to want to join together to create a few pages detailing the decision to stop the 34B bus service? Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Meta and mediawiki.org translation tools bug triage
What: Meta and mediawiki.org translation tools bug triage When: Wednesday, May 9, 16:00UTC Time zone conversion: http://hexm.de/ir Where: #mediawiki-i18n on freenode Use http://webchat.freenode.net/ if you don't have an IRC client You are invited to a bug triage on Meta and mediawiki.org translation tools hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation Localisation team. This will be a one hour meeting. The intended audience is very broad: translators, translation administrators, and developers. We will discuss the current state of translation tools on Meta-Wiki and mediawiki.org, and with your input we will try to map out which features and issues will be most helpful to streamline the translation process for things like documentation, policies, sitenotices, fundraiser messaging and appeals, and other non-primary project content* material that benefits from being available in as many languages as possible. Please forward this e-mail to anyone who may be interested. They are most welcome to join in. * Translating main namespace articles for Wikipedia and other projects is still out of scope for now. Cheers! -- Siebrand Mazeland Product Manager Localisation Wikimedia Foundation M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Sverige hires Project manager for GLAM and outreach projects
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Jan Ainali jan.ain...@wikimedia.se wrote: Axel Pettersson (User:Haxpett), who has been the press contact for the Swedish Wikipedia and also on the board of Wikimedia Sverige will work full time from Monday. Axel, who has studied computer science and leaves the role as a project manager for radio networks, has for some time already been doing volunteer work in the GLAM sector for the chapter. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to him! Congratulations Axel! While the office managers and other positions that some chapters are choosing for their first hire are quite necessary, I think it's exceptionally good to see a chapter focusing on outreach work in its professional development. Sounds like we'll see lots more cool projects coming out of Wikimedia Sverige soon. :) -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] What were the most important news in the Wikimedia movement last month?
Hi all, we are about to prepare the April issue of the monthly Wikimedia Highlights (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights ), which as usual combines a few of the most notable aspects of the Wikimedia Foundation report and the Wikimedia engineering report with a brief selection of other important events in the Wikimedia movement. For the latter part, suggestions are welcome at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Highlights#Movement_news_items_for_April_2012 until this Saturday, as are comments on the existing suggestions: *Israel edit-a-thon *Oregon Archives mass upload *Monmouthpedia Charles Rolls Challenge concluded *CCCB workshop *Wikipedians in Residence updates? *Tamil contest *HighBeam collaboration A main purpose of the format is to reach those Wikimedians who don't follow international movement news regularly (for example, don't read this mailing list), in particular for language reasons. All items are kept brief and limited in number - in the movement news section to three to five - so as to facilitate translations and avoid TLDR. The Highlights are regularly translated into up to 12 languages, the last edition into Russian, Dutch, Macedonian, Italian, French, Arabic and Danish. -- Tilman Bayer Movement Communications Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia)
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Carmen yarru...@charter.net wrote: The WMF should stop pretending it's politically neutral (NPOV). +1 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the Wikimedia Foundation should openly articulate its political POV by establishing a new neutral wiki for world political knowledge (modeled on Wikipedia)
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Carmen yarru...@charter.net wrote: For example, in the encyclopedic Wikipedia, there's one article called Brooklyn Bridge... Actually, I've just considered this a bit longer (for my sins). It occurs to me that perhaps you're not looking at big issues (like abortion) but you perhaps mean something that would invigorate local politics? You did give the example of building a bridge after all. I suppose that would be an innovation: a wiki that covers political issues that would be considered non-notable on Wikipedia. The trouble you're going to have then, though, is participation. How many people are going to want to join together to create a few pages detailing the decision to stop the 34B bus service? Bodnotbod This would be a fantastic part of a locally-focused wiki, however. Taking the example of the Davis city wiki (http://daviswiki.org), local politics gets covered there all the time, with heated arguments taking place in the comments! So I suspect the solution for coverage of local issues is to embed them in context, which is more helpful anyway (when you have a site that describes the bridge, the body of water, the city, and the local politicians AS WELL as controversies around any of the above). In other words: all politics is rooted in community; some communities are bigger than others. As for the project proposal, I'd work on clarifying how you expect the wiki aspect to work specifically; it seems like this would be particularly hard to maintain. I suspect any system that limits itself to edits from a small group of people as you seem to propose doing wouldn't work very well. Additionally, I believe there have been a few stabs at similar projects from other groups that you might look at; Andrew Lih's idea for collective news annotation comes to mind, as do others. (As for the Signpost -- publishing full essays in support of project proposals is a bit much, but doing brief writeups of new project proposals on a regular basis in the Signpost seems like a good idea!) best, Phoebe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
