Re: [Wikimedia-l] O'Dwyer
On 28 June 2012 01:37, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Jay, what did Jimmy expect the press to report? None of you have been doing this since yesterday. Jimmy's very petition is signed Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia founder. http://www.change.org/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard This is Wikipedia's name that is being leveraged here, pure and simply. And consciously so, deliberately, intentionally, knowingly. Yeah we get it you don't like Jimbo. Is there any reason we should care? -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
Recently, the Wikimedia Foundation was approached by the founders of an organization called the Internet Defense League, which is soon to be launched. The founders would like the Foundation to join the League. However, the online community as a whole is the heart of this proposed grassroots movement and therefore, the Foundation would like guidance from the community as to whether or not the community feels the Foundation should join this effort. Please let the Foundation know how you feel at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Internet_Defense_League. Thanks! pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] TVTropes deletes all pages with Rape in title under advertising pressure.
well i decided to delete them, and other articles dealing with peoples personal lives. I dont want to deal with stuff like that, mike On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well you think i should delete them from the speedydeletion wikia? http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=rapefulltext=Search mike On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: Wow, thank goodness we never had advertising. The TV-Tropes wiki has been forced to censor a number of pages due to advertiser pressure. http://www.themarysue.com/tv-tropes-rape-articles/ In the mean time, the discussed tropes *do* exist in our culture and in our movies. It somehow feels soviet. :-/ sincerely, Kim Bruning -- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 99, Issue 81
@Tobias O.: You are wrong, the day before yesterday RalfR. wrote, that only the winners will write history (Aber es stimmt schon, der Sieger schreibt die Geschichte, so falsch das auch sein mag http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Deutsche_Demokratische_Republikdiff=prevoldid=104857671), a sentence which was (and is) used in germany against the international Nuremberg Trials http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials after WWII, (the court-trial against the Hitlers gang) till today. In RalfRs opinion, the former goverment of east germany was not a dictatorship. If you would take this sentence as true, no enzyklopaedian would have written their books. It looks like as if RalfR. wants to be a winner... The posting I wrote to the german chapter mailinglist, was object to anonymous censorchip by the german mailinglist administration, nevertheless I would never use a word like bullshit :) : On Tue, Jun 28, 2012 at 14:32 PM (CET), Paulpaul.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ihre Anfrage an die Mailingliste WikiDE-l Veröffentlichung Ihrer Nachricht betreffend Re: WikiDE-l Nachrichtensammlung, Band 107, Eintrag 10 wurde vom Listenmoderator mit folgender Begruendung abgewiesen: Ihre Nachricht wurde vom Moderator als unangebracht erachtet. Keine PAs auf der ML. Fragen oder Kommentare richten Sie bitte an den Listenadministrator: wikide-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org It is not only the writing of RolfR. and a signifcance part of the german admins, it is their far-right-wing political behavior which I criticize. Till today FrankS., member of the far-right-group Schlagende Verbindung http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_fencing is responsible in the foundation for the Outreach project. A bad joke. Another bad joke is the exclusion of the user Brummfuss, he was founder of the Nazipedia-Warning page http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Brummfuss/Nazipedia which listed the articles with right wing bias writers. First the page was deleted, and then Brummfuss http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Brummfusswas deleted. I will continue to criticize that: inside and outside of the WP-project. Thomas7 (Pardon for my bad English). More informations about the nazi- and fascistoid problems in the german wikipedia: http://thomas7.netau.net/ On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:55:33 +0200Tobias Oelgartetobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: If you only write bullshit like this, then i know why you got blocked. I know RalfR in person and he did never advocate anything related to the right wing. Considering the given example you are completely illusionary. RalfR did not take the image itself but uploaded it to Wikiversity under the assumption that it falls under the Zitatrecht, which is not assumed for Wikipedia itself, because the community is not 100% (only 90%) sure that it would allow to cite such images, roughly comparable to fair use on EN. Whats next - Will you call him also an left wing otaku because he suggested to me to write an article about Nagisa Furukawa?[1] Pure nonsense. [1] http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Kurs:Zeichnen_im_Stile_von_Manga_und_Anime_in_Inkscape/Nagisa_Furukawa -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:42:12 -0700 From: Jay Walshjwa...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] O'Dwyer Message-ID: cadmskuhetmkr7p2xajzyhyqsqhnzgw93ctaef0ancyx1fef...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It would be interesting to see the community develop its own high profile media contacts so this view can be communicated to the world! If Jimmy can write this in The Guardian (a paper which really seems to like him a lot), ---o0o--- Together, we won the battle against Sopa and Pipa. Together, we can win this one too. ---o0o--- and it ends up copied in newspapers around the world, https://news.google.co.uk/news/story?q=%22Together,+we+won+the+battle+against+Sopa+and+Pipa.+Together,+we+can+win+this+one+too.%22hl=enprmd=imvnsbav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf .,cf.osbbiw=1066bih=743um=1ie=UTF-8ncl=dgWkAFmBLjQBsNMJyGJqPnbvsPpkMsa=Xei=xXTrT8rQHYqp8QO_hqXVBQved=0CC0QqgIwAA attributed to the Wikipedia founder, then there really is no discernible difference between his view and Wikipedia's, or Google's. Hi folks - I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to chime in. The Communications Committee list/group brought up the issue of some wildly inaccurate headlines on this story over the last 48hrs, and with their help and some outreach we've tried to get some corrections. The press is going to make a very logical, if occasionally wildly inaccurate, series of judgements on how to frame this whole topic/issue up. Headlines are commonly over-generalized to the point of being dead wrong - Wikipedia backs Richard O'Dwyer petition etc. The Wikimedia (chapter etc) folks who work with the press around the world are regularly doing everything
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_Defense_League I wonder why it was not deleted yet. considering that established artists and doctors are speedily deleted, why not them? mike On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: Internet Defense League -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
Uhm, {{sofixit}}?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_Defense_League I wonder why
it was not deleted yet. considering that established artists and
doctors are speedily deleted, why not them?
mike
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
Well I am not a deletionist, I am just pointing out that there is a
very strange criteria for deletion on the wikipedia, that is why i
started the speedydeletion.wikia.com
mike
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phili...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Uhm, {{sofixit}}?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_Defense_League I wonder why
it was not deleted yet. considering that established artists and
doctors are speedily deleted, why not them?
mike
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
On 28 June 2012 22:59, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I am not a deletionist, I am just pointing out that there is a very strange criteria for deletion on the wikipedia, that is why i started the speedydeletion.wikia.com The article has several references to independent reliable sources that specifically focus on the organisation, so it seems to meet the General Notability Guideline. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
Could we keep this thread on topic please ? Alex 2012/6/28 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com On 28 June 2012 22:59, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I am not a deletionist, I am just pointing out that there is a very strange criteria for deletion on the wikipedia, that is why i started the speedydeletion.wikia.com The article has several references to independent reliable sources that specifically focus on the organisation, so it seems to meet the General Notability Guideline. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
On 28 June 2012 23:10, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov alexandrdmitriroma...@gmail.com wrote: Could we keep this thread on topic please ? The thread has no topic. It was just an announcement pointing to the RFC, all the discussion is taking place there. There's no harm in re-purposing this thread to discuss a related topic. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet Defense League RFC
Thomas Dalton, 29/06/2012 00:32: On 28 June 2012 23:26, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should debate what is and isn't thread hijacking, and when it may or may not be appropriate. The weather today in London was wonderful. Also, this thread is a valuable example of what the Internet Defense would concretely defend (yay circularity). Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
