Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-18 Thread Kim Bruning

That's one step better than I was hoping for,

If all y'all are already in close contact with Erik, then I'm
no longer needed in this phase. :-)

(unless I can help with setup, or getting more data, or etc.)

Good luck, and have fun! :-)

sincerely,
Kim Bruning

PS. do post regular updates on status. I'd love to know how
things go from here! :-)

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:06:32PM +0200, Stefan Fussan wrote:
 We are about to migrate the WT data on WV as a first step ( 
 http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Migration_FAQ ). I am in touch with 
 Erik as well.
 Till now i have got no time table and any further information from the 
 WMF.  But I am sure, during the next two weeks we will know more details 
 about the procedure.
 
 Stefan aka Fussi
 
 Am 17.09.2012 19:31, schrieb Samuel Klein:
  The Wikivoyage migration plans should be able to proceed.  I haven't seen a
  specific plan for how that will work; it is still being discussed on Meta
  and on Wikivoyage.
 
  Sam.
 
  On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
 
  On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 03:21:55PM +0200, Alice Wiegand wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following
  statement about the travel guide RfC
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide :
  What are the next steps? Will the foundation first wait for all
  lawsuits to resolve, or will they start with working on providing the
  servers? What's the current time-frame?
 
  sincerely,
   Kim Bruning
 
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[Wikimedia-l] commons promotion

2012-09-18 Thread Andrew Gray
On 13 September 2012 12:10, Yaroslav M. Blanter
pute...@mccme.rujavascript:;
wrote:

 Btw it occurred to me that we never (to the best of my knowledge) tun a
 Wikipedia banner asking to donate pictures. Smth like to take a World
 Heritage site article without illustrations, or a town, and to say that
this
 is easy to illustrate in several clicks - just to donate pictures. Or
about
 your town.

Enwiki used to have a system where articles about people without images got
a placeholder - No picture available! Can you donate one? - but it was
taken down a few years ago, partly due to community dislike of it and
partly due to technical problems.

I believe a number of those technical issues have since been resolved, so
it might be worth thinking about trialling it again on a small scale...

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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 38 -- 17 September 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
From the editor: ''Signpost'' expands to Facebook
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-09-17/From_the_editor

News and notes: Tens of thousands of monuments loved; members of new funding 
body announced
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-09-17/News_and_notes

WikiProject report: Action! — The Indian Cinema Task Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-09-17/WikiProject_report

Featured content: Go into the light
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-09-17/Featured_content

Technology report: Future-proofing: HTML5 and IPv6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-09-17/Technology_report


Single page view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single

PDF version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-09-17


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] commons promotion

2012-09-18 Thread Risker
On 18 September 2012 14:00, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

 On 13 September 2012 12:10, Yaroslav M. Blanter
 pute...@mccme.rujavascript:;
 wrote:

  Btw it occurred to me that we never (to the best of my knowledge) tun a
  Wikipedia banner asking to donate pictures. Smth like to take a World
  Heritage site article without illustrations, or a town, and to say that
 this
  is easy to illustrate in several clicks - just to donate pictures. Or
 about
  your town.

 Enwiki used to have a system where articles about people without images got
 a placeholder - No picture available! Can you donate one? - but it was
 taken down a few years ago, partly due to community dislike of it and
 partly due to technical problems.

 I believe a number of those technical issues have since been resolved, so
 it might be worth thinking about trialling it again on a small scale...



My recollection is that that one of the key reasons the English Wikipedia
community stopped using the image placeholders was the fact that we were
receiving a very significant number of non-free images, including obviously
commercial ones that people were claiming they owned, and we wound up
deleting a lot of images that were 'donated'.  I like the idea of inviting
people to contribute images for *select* articles, but not *every* article
without an image.  But we should really make sure that we're getting some
statistical information if we trial this again, to ensure that what we are
getting is helpful and not a copyright timesink.  It would be a shame to
return to the old days when everything operated on the assumption that
there were always warm bodies around to clean up these kinds of messes.  On
many projects, that is no longer the case.

Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] commons promotion

2012-09-18 Thread Phil Nash


- Original Message - 
From: Risker risker...@gmail.com

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...old days when everything operated on the assumption that
there were always warm bodies around to clean up these kinds of messes. 
On

many projects, that is no longer the case.


O the irony! 



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[Wikimedia-l] CNET News: Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia

2012-09-18 Thread Kim Bruning

Spotted this in my news feed,

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/

sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia

2012-09-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hmmm, should I stop reading at Wikimedia Foundation UK?

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2012/9/18 Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl:

 Spotted this in my news feed,
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/

 sincerely,
 Kim Bruning

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia

2012-09-18 Thread George Herbert
I'm curious as to the internal view of the details, but... this is
Violet Blue blogging about us.


-george

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:

 Spotted this in my news feed,
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/

 sincerely,
 Kim Bruning

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[Wikimedia-l] BBC: Gibraltar targets tourists with Wikipedia QR codes

2012-09-18 Thread Mono
Gibraltar is embracing Wikipedia and QR codes.

More at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19544299
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia

2012-09-18 Thread Fred Bauder

 Spotted this in my news feed,
   
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/

 sincerely,
   Kim Bruning

http://untrikiwiki.com/ Max Klein's wiki editing business

His blog response:

http://untrikiwiki.com/explanation-to-allegations-of-misuse-of-position-and-paid-editing/

Fred


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia

2012-09-18 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:

  I don't know anything about this case, but it does seem that paid
 advocacy
 is increasing, and although the community seems opposed to it as a whole,
 that message isn't getting through to individual editors. It's becoming
 very discouraging to have to deal with it, or to edit alongside it.


Your concern is totally legit Sarah, but before we jump to saying paid
advocacy is actually increasing, I think it would be interesting to try and
think about whether it's merely that it's more prominent and open.

The kind of guidelines that PR orgs and Wikimedians are encouraging, such
as being transparent about a COI, could create the misperception that there
is more paid advocacy. Maybe it's just that we're actually starting to see
people be more open?

The thing that scares me the most is the kind of edits uncovered by
WikiScanner back in the day: those who are editing with a COI but who are
acting in secret. The thing that I don't even want to think about when it
comes to paid advocacy is how many skilled sockmasters are writing articles
that look okay but are really spam?

In short: I think people like Max and Roger, who make public declarations
about their identities and conflicts of interest, are not the ones who
scare me. We can always find those people and start a conversation with
them.

Steven
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