[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Hi all,

I've started a page on meta for Wikimedia Gadget

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Gadgets

This page serves for people participating of the Wikimedia movement to
brainstorm on news cool, fun and interesting Wikimedia gadgets. The
ideas can discussed in several languages on the talk page to
facilitate each local group to speak their ideas in their local
language, if necessary. The idea is to expand the possibilities on
what we have so far in the Wikimedia Shop http://shop.wikimedia.org/
and other local groups shops using the global community ideas and help
local groups to outreach Wikimedia projects.

A lot of times someone saw a Wikipedia backpack I have and they found
really cool - people find these kind of things cool. This can help
also local groups to develop their own things to outreach Wikimedia
projects. Also, several times, I was faced in discussions with
colleagues on possible new gadgets beyond those produced by Wikimedia
Foundation, like a Wikipedia flip flop, for instance. Or when
volunteers in Brazil organized a challenge with a initial idea to give
some new gadgetd, like these ones in this news about this activity
http://blogs.estadao.com.br/link/positivo-quer-wikipedia-offline-em-computadores/.

I do think this can also help to outreach other less known Wikimedia
Projects. For instance, when a cool banner was made here in Brazil
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1c3Op5hG6ugo6gsQdmG7MzuG5jXyj_YJjYkcZ61DLi2aRBqlOXT-WKqqSAaKv/edit
by volunteers to use at events, I've  heard more than once people
saying they didn't know other projects and that that was really cool.
As another example, I've just discovered a cool t-shirt of Wikimedia
Sweeden for the Wikipedia education program
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_i_utbildning_tshirt.jpg
and their local shop http://wikimediasverige.spreadshirt.se/ with
original and creative products.

I hope this can bring new ideas and new gadgets. Please, make comments
in the wiki page.

Tom

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Everton Zanella Alvarenga, 07/04/2013 15:23:

The idea is to expand the possibilities on
what we have so far in the Wikimedia Shop http://shop.wikimedia.org/


Is this approved by the WMF shop manager?


and other local groups shops using the global community ideas and help
local groups to outreach Wikimedia projects.


Is this approved by WMF legal? Wikimedia Italia had to close its shop 
years ago.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Ciao Nemo.

2013/4/7 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com:
 Everton Zanella Alvarenga, 07/04/2013 15:23:

 The idea is to expand the possibilities on
 what we have so far in the Wikimedia Shop http://shop.wikimedia.org/

 Is this approved by the WMF shop manager?

Humm... Do volunteer need permission to share ideas? Maybe I was not
clear, but the idea is to create prototypes so that we can have more
creative things. The next stages, like creating, sellilng and other
bureacratic stuff, is for the next stage.

 and other local groups shops using the global community ideas and help
 local groups to outreach Wikimedia projects.

 Is this approved by WMF legal? Wikimedia Italia had to close its shop years
 ago.

Well, when people from WMF comes to Brazil with t-shirts, brochures,
stickers etc., I think there is no need to ask any thing to WMF legal.
Here we just receive these resources and share with volunteers on
events and projects, helping to outreach Wikimedia projects. Since in
Brazil there is no legal entity approved as a chapter, I was not even
thinking about a local shop here, but just to focus on the creative
side of volunteers and leave the (boring) bureaucratic stuff for
bureaucrats. :)

Tom

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread MZMcBride
Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote:
I've started a page on meta for Wikimedia Gadget

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Gadgets

Hi.

I'm not sure gadgets is the word you want. It immediately made me think
of the popular Gadgets MediaWiki extension:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets.

It sounds like maybe you want merchandise? Or something similar to that.
Just a thought.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Balázs Viczián
I'd love to see this available to buy as a T-shirt: [1] and these posters
[2] (here, in Hungary we have plans to do both)

btw Wikimedia Hungary had some own merchandise too [3]

[1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_-_T-shirt.jpg
[2] http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf#Posters
[3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Hungary_merchandise

cheers,
Balázs
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Martin Rulsch
Free give-aways are okay. But a shop where Wiki* stuff can be sold, might
be a problem.

Cheers
Martin

2013/4/7 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu

 I'd love to see this available to buy as a T-shirt: [1] and these posters
 [2] (here, in Hungary we have plans to do both)

 btw Wikimedia Hungary had some own merchandise too [3]

 [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_-_T-shirt.jpg
 [2] http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf#Posters
 [3]
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Hungary_merchandise

 cheers,
 Balázs
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread James Forrester
On 7 April 2013 07:52, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote:
  I've started a page on meta for Wikimedia Gadget
 
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Gadgets

 I'm not sure gadgets is the word you want. It immediately made me think
 of the popular Gadgets MediaWiki extension:
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets.

I was also confused. :-)

 It sounds like maybe you want merchandise? Or something similar to that.
 Just a thought.

There's https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_merchandise
which has a lot of this discussion already.

J.
--
James D. Forrester
jdforres...@gmail.com
[[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal capacity)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
2013/4/7 James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.org:

 There's https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_merchandise
 which has a lot of this discussion already.

Damn. Sorry, I didn't find this page! Thanks for pointing this out,
James. I spent some minutes on meta looking for this, but the word
merchandise was not on my head.

And it seems some people who replied here didn't know also. Maybe it
is a good idea to point this page more explicitly at
shop.wikimedia.org. I'll suggest on wiki.

I'll move some of the content here to this page before being bited, hehehe.

Tom

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Pessoal,

já existia uma página disse que eu não consegui achar

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_merchandise#Link_to_this_page_at_the_top_of_shop.wikimedia.org.3F

Depois seria legal traduzir a página principal no meta e pensarmos em
produtos tupiniquins.

Tom

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of a Wikipedia article

2013-04-07 Thread Romaine Wiki
An intelligence agency that apparently hasn't done enough intelligence to know 
that doing such action would cause the opposite and also clearly do not know 
how Wikipedia works. Did I had to high expectations or were their criteria of 
quality too low?

On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:31:29, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
 I can't see what would be sensitive in the article..

I think that the existence of the article is considered too sensitive for them, 
not realizing that all information is already elsewhere on the internet. 

On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 22:09:51, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net 
wrote:
 Well that's one way of drawing attention to the site...

We should thank them for making Wikipedia get in the spotlights. Free 
publicity. 



As the intelligence agencies are enough encyclopaedic to have in our 
encyclopaedias, maybe we should think of setting up a project like Wiki Loves 
intelligence agencies.  ;-)  Compared to Wiki Loves Monuments are the heritage 
agencies loved by the Wikipedians and the heritage agencies like the 
Wikipedias, while with Wiki Loves intelligence agencies is probably only a 
one-way loving.


Romaine

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikiecon

2013-04-07 Thread Alex Peek
Discussion at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Economics
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of a Wikipedia article

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Gervai
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com wrote:
 An intelligence agency that apparently hasn't done enough intelligence to 
 know that doing such action would cause the opposite

Possibly there will be a rise in the number of janitors against the
number of intelligence officers.

g

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Martin Rulsch
martin.rul...@wikimedia.de wrote:
 Free give-aways are okay. But a shop where Wiki* stuff can be sold, might
 be a problem.

Possibly out of the tread but let me comment that anyone anytime could
sell anything from Wikipedia until s/he follows the license terms, eg.
includes the source (and avoid to use non-free materials like logos,
obviously).

Funky question could be that where should the terms go since I believe
I could put a license leaflet next to a TShirt instead of printing it
onto it. Maybe.

g

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