Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization
Hello, Could you provide me relevant links so I may understand this topic? While I have superficiel knowledge of SOPA and PIPA, I have no idea what CFAAA and CALEA are. Le 2013-04-14 01:25, James Salsman a écrit : Jan-Bart, I reserve the right to speak with anyone at any time on any subject. Thank you for your reply: my gut feeling is that you are asking an impossible question (and aware of this) and I assume that Garfield has much better things to do, but I guess if Sue wants to sound time on this, she will get back to you. It took me about half an hour to derive an answer to the question which I am confident is accurate to within an order of magnitude. In short, the CFAA amendments alone would likely cost readers, editors, and the Foundation more than 500 times as much as SOPA or PIPA could have cost, under what I believe is a very reasonable set of assumptions. If Sue or Garfield share your opinion that the question is unanswerable, please let me know right away. Thanks again. Sincerely, James Salsman On Apr 13, 2013, at 5:03 PM, James Salsman jsalsman at gmail.com wrote: Hi Garfield, Would you please find out how much the CFAA and CALEA amendements would be expected to cost readers, editors, and the Foundation compared to what SOPA or PIPA would have cost if they had passed, and let the wikimedia-l and advocacy advisors lists know? Best regards, James Salsman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Association Culture-Libre http://www.culture-libre.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization
Le 2013-04-14 02:44, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 04/13/2013 07:25 PM, James Salsman wrote: In short, the CFAA amendments alone would likely cost readers, editors, and the Foundation more than 500 times as much as SOPA or PIPA could have cost, under what I believe is a very reasonable set of assumptions. {{cn}} -- Marc Could you tell me what is {{cn}} standing for, please? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [replies inline with quoted message(s)] On 4/15/2013 12:31 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Le 2013-04-14 02:44, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : {{cn}} -- Marc Could you tell me what is {{cn}} standing for, please? {{cn}} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cn is the template on the English Wikipedia that inserts the little [citation needed] text. So, in other words, Marc is asking for James to provide sources to back up his (James') claim. - -- Sincerely, Andrew FastLizard4 Adams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FastLizard4 fastliza...@gmail.com PGP Key ID: 0x221A627DD76E2616 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRa67AAAoJECIaYn3XbiYW8TwP/At0Fmc80Ro2e/f69EvUhL4a oCz1DoDvZhEFHno7cjxtdPqU8mBqoSMsgouuhpfKlgas+1OE9Eja/T+dRYsrI7wn gLsGTtO+aj/Tq0cceDZ4M5G9LR7mXKi+Vv11FH4Y6dvkvEscC3fzw6Ywq/jaSZuj XexGCqJBrdeIW9NFVbwcsFZMKksrBf0dnDs6caVpDRUWD+lWSkzbg0HPvIeylrIs Ab5xIikq47oFMr40UOmurzIDSFmUsQ7sqHlZm+a1WeckhiW0Gne4vSfmV25ACumi X/+YNjE5lC6rfsTSHihNxE3VUg1y+w6gJH2G93kU5OuXEPcvnySO2Su8DYZUBfpl 7+PMZL5TiimeD05/2mX7RyclGkoRXQdRUIfYViu59gmkA1tEP3eGlt5v+IsLIu2Y hEY8uFhKWGaSjINUY1/XlJqcXJRfSQMchcRx0hQdho6O4oHoqxcKvRp0srWhJDcP 0rqyy7zNU+WTkvY+9DVWIMtLIHKgC89LI05zavrTNy5iot2lAbjV1FSecwU+L4S/ SLGtRTmpJfHiJDSWM4wm0nlrOuFhkKur31CxsgzBZip3htupcc/9kNWu1bfQyzEi F0A8UrqwO4927CcNpxToLYYGUsPWrdOqfUngq7GqSwnKENObwc91QuKzV0/2VsbX Y8NhpZ3rr2csRwmzWOka =Uvj/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization
Le 2013-04-15 09:39, FastLizard4 a écrit : {{cn}} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cn is the template on the English Wikipedia that inserts the little [citation needed] text. So, in other words, Marc is asking for James to provide sources to back up his (James') claim. - -- Ok, thank you Andrew. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization
Mathieu: CFAA is the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which criminalizes among other things unauthorized access or exceeding authorized access of a protected system, and is found at 18 U.S.C. 1030. CALEA is the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, which is a federal wiretapping law making it easier for law enforcement to wiretap certain digital communications; I believe the latest provisions under discussion involve VoIP. EFF discusses here: https://www.eff.org/issues/calea Hope that helps, -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: Le 2013-04-15 09:39, FastLizard4 a écrit : {{cn}} https://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Template:Cnhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cn is the template on the English Wikipedia that inserts the little [citation needed] text. So, in other words, Marc is asking for James to provide sources to back up his (James') claim. - -- Ok, thank you Andrew. __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] How gay friendly is Wikimedia and where do LGBT Wikimedians hang out?
On Monday, 15 April 2013 at 08:31, Fae wrote: The answer is we have real idea how gay friendly the projects are, but LGBT Wikimedians have been doing a lot more outreach recently and we think this is great evidence for our increasing diversity. From a few chats over tea at the GLAMwiki conference last weekend, I realised that most folks with an interest in LGBT matters were either unaware that anything had changed in the last year, or just had not got around to finding out where to go for more information (apart from asking me). So, here are 4 new global resources created in the last 12 months for you to investigate, share with friends or bookmark for later: Thanks for posting this, Fæ. I'm hoping that the mailing list can be used for a variety of purposes, both as a safe space for discussing how to handle issues faced by LGBT Wikimedians, and for discussion of what people are working on, developing LGBT content on Wikimedia and so on. It'd be great if list members could post stubs they've been working on at Wikipedia, Wikinews articles, collections of photos they've uploaded to Commons and so on. As for IRC, while it may not be a dating service, there is occasional campy, flirty silliness. :-) -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] How gay friendly is Wikimedia and where do LGBT Wikimedians hang out?
Interesting Topic. The Wikivoyage association’s chairman is gay as well. So he will have an eye on the diversity on WV. He (me) started the travel Topic “gaytravel” and created a small article about gay travel in Cambodia already (http://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Thema:Schwul-Lesbisches_Reisen_in_Kambodscha). I hope more information will find their way into our articles soon. Besides we tag bars ans Hotels as gayfriendly on de: New ideas are always welcome. Thanks for the links Gesendet von Windows-Mail Von: Tom Morris Gesendet: Montag, 15. April 2013 13:15 An: Wikimedia Mailing List On Monday, 15 April 2013 at 08:31, Fae wrote: The answer is we have real idea how gay friendly the projects are, but LGBT Wikimedians have been doing a lot more outreach recently and we think this is great evidence for our increasing diversity. From a few chats over tea at the GLAMwiki conference last weekend, I realised that most folks with an interest in LGBT matters were either unaware that anything had changed in the last year, or just had not got around to finding out where to go for more information (apart from asking me). So, here are 4 new global resources created in the last 12 months for you to investigate, share with friends or bookmark for later: Thanks for posting this, Fæ. I'm hoping that the mailing list can be used for a variety of purposes, both as a safe space for discussing how to handle issues faced by LGBT Wikimedians, and for discussion of what people are working on, developing LGBT content on Wikimedia and so on. It'd be great if list members could post stubs they've been working on at Wikipedia, Wikinews articles, collections of photos they've uploaded to Commons and so on. As for IRC, while it may not be a dating service, there is occasional campy, flirty silliness. :-) -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Urgent: invitation to give a talk in workshop aiming at definition of a web environment for the EU marine scientific community - Bremen - 21-23 May 2013
In case anybody is interested in giving a talk and participating in a workshop for the European Marine scientific community. Probably most relevant for somebody based in the EU. --Kul - EuroMarine (http://www.euromarineconsortium.eu/) is organising a workshop to define a Web Environment that will provide services to the European Marine scientific community as an effective mean to reach integration among individuals, institutions and consortia across the fields of 'omics, biodiversity and ecology (see the attached programme). Services will address social networking, common/customisable directories (white, yellow and blue pages), news and events posting, scholarly publications (data and papers), education and outreach. Participants will include representatives of past and present EU projects/initiatives/infrastrutures, and web service providers, such as Google, Facebook, Twitter, Skype, LinkedIn, Thomson Reuters, Elsevier and Wikipedia.Invited participants will benefit from free accommodation meals at the ATLANTIC HOTEL UNIVERSUM - CONFERENCE CENTRE BREMEN (http://www.atlantic-hotels.de/universum/de/Start.html), and EuroMarine will reimburse in part their travel expenses (maximum amount to be determined). *We would like to invite a Wikimedia representative to**give a 20' talk**and participate in **workshop discussions. * *Invited participants from commercial service providers / foundations are expected to present (20 min) and discuss: 1. The range of services that they can offer to a research community; 2. Case studies of how apps, tools and services are customized by their users.* Invited participants from past and present EU Projects are expected to present (15 min) and discuss: 1. Services that they provide(d) on the web to their partners and/or to the public in general; 2. Their experience with commercial services such as Google, Facebook, Twitter, Skype and LinkedIn (e.g. How they were used, how effective they were, what was lacking); 3. How the project plans to archive/maintain the services/products/deliverables that it developed (EuroMarine could act as a central archive for past projects). /Additional cont//extual information/: Euromarine (currently a project funded by the European Commission) will become a self-sustained consortium (with potentially 121research memberorganizations)in 2014. Taking advantage of its durability, it will coordinate / promote the development of the envisioned web environment (which short-lived projects or networks are not able to achieve). *Please let us know rapidly if you can join us in Bremen on 21-23 May 2013. An online registration form is available at http://www.euromarineconsortium.eu/registration.* Best regards, Pierre-François Baisnée (and Stéphane Pesant, for the organizing committee) --- EUR-OCEANS Consortium Executive Director Centre de recherche halieutique (CRH) - avenue Jean Monnet - BP 171 34203 Sète cedex - France tel: +33 (0)4 99 57 32 44 fax: +33 (0)4 99 57 61 23 e-mail: pierre-francois.bais...@ird.fr http://www.eur-oceans.eu -- Kul Wadhwa Head of Mobile Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning Evaluation
Reminder, discussion starting in about 10 minutes. We're in #wikimedia-office. Pine From: deyntest...@hotmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning Evaluation Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:53:37 -0700 Hi everyone, Jessie plans to be available on IRC on April 15, 1800-1900 UTC. I plan to be there with questions about WMF program planning and evaluation, and I hope many of you are also able to attend the discussion. Cheers, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning Evaluation
Changed due to meeting collision. We'll be in #wikimedia-office-learningeval. Pine From: deyntest...@hotmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning Evaluation Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:51:53 -0700 Reminder, discussion starting in about 10 minutes. We're in #wikimedia-office. Pine From: deyntest...@hotmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning Evaluation Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:53:37 -0700 Hi everyone, Jessie plans to be available on IRC on April 15, 1800-1900 UTC. I plan to be there with questions about WMF program planning and evaluation, and I hope many of you are also able to attend the discussion. Cheers, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] WMF Board Agenda, April 2013
Hello, Please find below the WMF Board of Trustees' draft agenda for the upcoming meetings on April 17, 2013 - April 19, 2013. == Wednesday, April 17, 2013 == '''16:00 - 18:00''' - Governance Committee Meeting == Thursday, April 18, 2013 == '''09:00''' - Greetings and Introductions '''09:10''' - Committee Reports * Audit Committee Report * Governance Committee Report '''09:45''' - Committee Reporting Guidelines '''10:00''' - Open Resolutions * Resolution on guidelines on potential conflicts of interest * Resolution on recognition of Wikimedia Armenia * Resolution on the Board Governance Committee Charter * Resolution appointing another trustee to the Board Governance Committee '''10:15''' - Annual Plan Update '''11:00''' - FDC Year Two Guidance '''12:00''' - Lunch '''13:00''' - WMF and FDC '''13:45''' - Strategy Committee Proposal '''13:30''' - Guiding Principles for the Wikimedia Foundation == Friday, April 19, 2013 == '''09:00''' - Editor Retention '''10:00''' - Transition Team Update '''12:00''' - Lunch '''13:30''' - Trustee Candidates '''14:30''' - Executive Session -- Stephen LaPorte Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation *For legal reasons, I may only serve as an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to or serve as a lawyer for community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l