Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Hello,

Could you provide me relevant links so I may understand this topic? 
While I have superficiel knowledge of SOPA and PIPA, I have no idea what 
CFAAA and CALEA are.


Le 2013-04-14 01:25, James Salsman a écrit :

Jan-Bart,

I reserve the right to speak with anyone at any time on any subject.
Thank you for your reply:

my gut feeling is that you are asking an impossible question (and 
aware of this) and I assume that Garfield
has much better things to do, but I guess if Sue wants to sound time 
on this, she will get back to you.


It took me about half an hour to derive an answer to the question
which I am confident is accurate to within an order of magnitude.  In
short, the CFAA amendments alone would likely cost readers, editors,
and the Foundation more than 500 times as much as SOPA or PIPA could
have cost, under what I believe is a very reasonable set of
assumptions.

If Sue or Garfield share your opinion that the question is
unanswerable, please let me know right away. Thanks again.

Sincerely,
James Salsman


On Apr 13, 2013, at 5:03 PM, James Salsman jsalsman at gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi Garfield,

Would you please find out how much the CFAA and CALEA amendements
would be expected to cost readers, editors, and the Foundation
compared to what SOPA or PIPA would have cost if they had passed, 
and

let the wikimedia-l and advocacy advisors lists know?

Best regards,
James Salsman

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Le 2013-04-14 02:44, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit :

On 04/13/2013 07:25 PM, James Salsman wrote:

In
short, the CFAA amendments alone would likely cost readers, editors,
and the Foundation more than 500 times as much as SOPA or PIPA could
have cost, under what I believe is a very reasonable set of
assumptions.


{{cn}}

-- Marc


Could you tell me what is {{cn}} standing for, please?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread FastLizard4
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On 4/15/2013 12:31 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote:
 Le 2013-04-14 02:44, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit :

 {{cn}}

 -- Marc
 
 Could you tell me what is {{cn}} standing for, please?

{{cn}} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cn is the template on
the English Wikipedia that inserts the little [citation needed] text.
 So, in other words, Marc is asking for James to provide sources to back
up his (James') claim.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FastLizard4
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Le 2013-04-15 09:39, FastLizard4 a écrit :

{{cn}} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cn is the template on
the English Wikipedia that inserts the little [citation needed] 
text.
 So, in other words, Marc is asking for James to provide sources to 
back

up his (James') claim.
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Ok, thank you Andrew.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Mathieu: CFAA is the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which
criminalizes among other things unauthorized access or exceeding authorized
access of a protected system, and is found at 18 U.S.C. 1030.

CALEA is the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, which is a
federal wiretapping law making it easier for law enforcement to wiretap
certain digital communications; I believe the latest provisions under
discussion involve VoIP.  EFF discusses here:
https://www.eff.org/issues/calea

Hope that helps,

-Dan

Dan Rosenthal


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Mathieu Stumpf 
psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:

 Le 2013-04-15 09:39, FastLizard4 a écrit :

  {{cn}} 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Template:Cnhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cn
 is the template on
 the English Wikipedia that inserts the little [citation needed] text.
  So, in other words, Marc is asking for James to provide sources to back
 up his (James') claim.
 - --


 Ok, thank you Andrew.



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How gay friendly is Wikimedia and where do LGBT Wikimedians hang out?

2013-04-15 Thread Tom Morris
On Monday, 15 April 2013 at 08:31, Fae wrote:
 The answer is we have real idea how gay friendly the projects are, but
 LGBT Wikimedians have been doing a lot more outreach recently and we
 think this is great evidence for our increasing diversity.
  
 From a few chats over tea at the GLAMwiki conference last weekend, I
 realised that most folks with an interest in LGBT matters were either
 unaware that anything had changed in the last year, or just had not
 got around to finding out where to go for more information (apart from
 asking me). So, here are 4 new global resources created in the last 12
 months for you to investigate, share with friends or bookmark for
 later:



Thanks for posting this, Fæ.  

I'm hoping that the mailing list can be used for a variety of purposes, both as 
a safe space for discussing how to handle issues faced by LGBT Wikimedians, and 
for discussion of what people are working on, developing LGBT content on 
Wikimedia and so on. It'd be great if list members could post stubs they've 
been working on at Wikipedia, Wikinews articles, collections of photos they've 
uploaded to Commons and so on.

As for IRC, while it may not be a dating service, there is occasional campy, 
flirty silliness. :-)  

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http://tommorris.org/




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How gay friendly is Wikimedia and where do LGBT Wikimedians hang out?

2013-04-15 Thread derfussi
Interesting Topic. The Wikivoyage association’s chairman is gay as well. So he 
will have an eye on the diversity on WV. He (me) started the travel Topic 
“gaytravel” and created a small article about gay travel in Cambodia already 
(http://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Thema:Schwul-Lesbisches_Reisen_in_Kambodscha). I 
hope more information will find their way into our articles soon. Besides we 
tag bars ans Hotels as gayfriendly on de:


New ideas are always welcome. 


Thanks for the links



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Von: Tom Morris
Gesendet: ‎Montag‎, ‎15‎. ‎April‎ ‎2013 ‎13‎:‎15
An: Wikimedia Mailing List

On Monday, 15 April 2013 at 08:31, Fae wrote:
 The answer is we have real idea how gay friendly the projects are, but
 LGBT Wikimedians have been doing a lot more outreach recently and we
 think this is great evidence for our increasing diversity.
  
 From a few chats over tea at the GLAMwiki conference last weekend, I
 realised that most folks with an interest in LGBT matters were either
 unaware that anything had changed in the last year, or just had not
 got around to finding out where to go for more information (apart from
 asking me). So, here are 4 new global resources created in the last 12
 months for you to investigate, share with friends or bookmark for
 later:



Thanks for posting this, Fæ.  

I'm hoping that the mailing list can be used for a variety of purposes, both as 
a safe space for discussing how to handle issues faced by LGBT Wikimedians, and 
for discussion of what people are working on, developing LGBT content on 
Wikimedia and so on. It'd be great if list members could post stubs they've 
been working on at Wikipedia, Wikinews articles, collections of photos they've 
uploaded to Commons and so on.

As for IRC, while it may not be a dating service, there is occasional campy, 
flirty silliness. :-)  

--  
Tom Morris
http://tommorris.org/




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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Urgent: invitation to give a talk in workshop aiming at definition of a web environment for the EU marine scientific community - Bremen - 21-23 May 2013

2013-04-15 Thread Kul Wadhwa
In case anybody is interested in giving a talk and participating in a
workshop for the
European Marine scientific community. Probably most relevant for somebody
based in the EU.

--Kul

-

EuroMarine (http://www.euromarineconsortium.eu/) is organising a
workshop to define a Web Environment that will provide services to the
European Marine scientific community as an effective mean to reach
integration among individuals, institutions and consortia across the
fields of 'omics, biodiversity and ecology (see the attached programme).
Services will address social networking, common/customisable directories
(white, yellow and blue pages), news and events posting, scholarly
publications (data and papers), education and outreach.

Participants will include representatives of past and present EU
projects/initiatives/infrastrutures, and web service providers, such as
Google, Facebook, Twitter, Skype, LinkedIn, Thomson Reuters, Elsevier
and Wikipedia.Invited participants will benefit from free accommodation
 meals at the ATLANTIC HOTEL UNIVERSUM - CONFERENCE CENTRE BREMEN
(http://www.atlantic-hotels.de/universum/de/Start.html), and EuroMarine
will
reimburse in part their travel expenses (maximum amount to be determined).

*We would like to invite a Wikimedia representative to**give a 20'
talk**and participate in **workshop discussions. *

*Invited participants from commercial service providers / foundations
are expected to present (20 min) and discuss:
1. The range of services that they can offer to a research community;
2. Case studies of how apps, tools and services are customized by their
users.*

Invited participants from past and present EU Projects are expected to
present (15 min) and discuss:
1. Services that they provide(d) on the web to their partners and/or to
the public in general;
2. Their experience with commercial services such as Google, Facebook,
Twitter, Skype and LinkedIn (e.g. How they were used, how effective they
were, what was lacking);
3. How the project plans to archive/maintain the
services/products/deliverables that it developed (EuroMarine could act
as a central archive for past projects).

/Additional cont//extual information/: Euromarine (currently a project
funded by the European Commission) will become a self-sustained
consortium (with potentially 121research memberorganizations)in 2014.
Taking advantage of its durability, it will coordinate / promote the
development of the envisioned web environment (which short-lived
projects or networks are not able to achieve).

*Please let us know rapidly if you can join us in Bremen on 21-23 May
2013. An online registration form is available at
http://www.euromarineconsortium.eu/registration.*

Best regards,

Pierre-François Baisnée (and Stéphane Pesant, for the organizing committee)

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34203 Sète cedex - France
tel: +33 (0)4 99 57 32 44
fax: +33 (0)4 99 57 61 23
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning Evaluation

2013-04-15 Thread ENWP Pine
Reminder, discussion starting in about 10 minutes. We're in #wikimedia-office.

Pine

From: deyntest...@hotmail.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning  Evaluation
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:53:37 -0700







Hi everyone, Jessie plans to be available on IRC on April 15, 1800-1900 UTC. I 
plan to be there with questions about WMF program planning and evaluation, and 
I hope many of you are also able to attend the discussion.

Cheers,

Pine


  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning Evaluation

2013-04-15 Thread ENWP Pine
Changed due to meeting collision. We'll be in #wikimedia-office-learningeval.

Pine

From: deyntest...@hotmail.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: RE: Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning  Evaluation
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:51:53 -0700




Reminder, discussion starting in about 10 minutes. We're in #wikimedia-office.

Pine

From: deyntest...@hotmail.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Office hour with Jessie Wild from Global Learning  Evaluation
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:53:37 -0700







Hi everyone, Jessie plans to be available on IRC on April 15, 1800-1900 UTC. I 
plan to be there with questions about WMF program planning and evaluation, and 
I hope many of you are also able to attend the discussion.

Cheers,

Pine


  
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[Wikimedia-l] WMF Board Agenda, April 2013

2013-04-15 Thread Stephen LaPorte
Hello,

Please find below the WMF Board of Trustees' draft agenda for the upcoming
meetings on April 17, 2013 - April 19, 2013.


== Wednesday, April 17, 2013 ==

'''16:00 - 18:00''' - Governance Committee Meeting

== Thursday, April 18, 2013 ==

'''09:00''' - Greetings and Introductions

'''09:10''' - Committee Reports

* Audit Committee Report
* Governance Committee Report

'''09:45''' - Committee Reporting Guidelines

'''10:00''' - Open Resolutions

* Resolution on guidelines on potential conflicts of interest
* Resolution on recognition of Wikimedia Armenia
* Resolution on the Board Governance Committee Charter
* Resolution appointing another trustee to the Board Governance Committee

'''10:15''' - Annual Plan Update

'''11:00''' - FDC Year Two Guidance

'''12:00''' - Lunch

'''13:00''' - WMF and FDC

'''13:45''' - Strategy Committee Proposal

'''13:30''' - Guiding Principles for the Wikimedia Foundation

== Friday, April 19, 2013 ==

'''09:00''' - Editor Retention

'''10:00''' - Transition Team Update

'''12:00''' - Lunch

'''13:30''' - Trustee Candidates

'''14:30''' - Executive Session

-- 
Stephen LaPorte
Legal Counsel
Wikimedia Foundation

*For legal reasons, I may only serve as an attorney for the Wikimedia
Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to or serve as a lawyer
for community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal
capacity.*
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