Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2014 location decision
As one of the team for the India bid, I must say I'm a bit disappointed in this decision. It seems like this event will never leave Europe. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations - Berlin is one amazing city. Some great bids were placed, too. Looking forward to it! -Sarah On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all the team involved in the bidding and decision. We will have a very nice conference in Berlin. Regards. El oct 12, 2013 8:31 a.m., Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com escribió: Dear all, Following considerable deliberation it is with great pleasure that we announce that the Location Committee has selected Berlin as the location for the 2014 Wikimedia Conference. We received a total of four bids from Germany, India, Italy and Sweden. In selecting the Berlin location we have taken into consideration the experience and capacity of the team; the travel time and cost for attendees; the cost of hosting the conference; and the facilities and room configuration of the proposed venues. Throughout our deliberations we kept an open mind towards having the conference in a new location/country, and we have appreciated the compact solutions offered by having all participants close to each other or staying at the same lodging; however, we felt that the Berlin bid provides – by a small margin – the best combination of price, distance and experience this year. We thank all the organisations that have entered a bid for their time and effort and we hope that even if they were not selected this year, they can make use of the experience when they organise other meetings that will further the Wikimedia mission. In closing, we would like to thank all Wikimedia organisations for placing their trust in this process and committee, which was an interesting experience for all of us. In the hope that the Wikimedia organisations keep the hosting choice an open process, we would like to propose a number of potential process improvements[1], and we would invite all the bidders and other interested parties to provide their own feedback. Best regards, Asaf Bartov, Bence Damokos, Arnau Duran, Itzik Edri, Mike Peel, Osmar Valdebenito, Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia Conference 2014 Location Committee [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Bids/Learnings ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedian* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Treasurer, Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and Internet2
Thanks for the feedback, Leslie. Yeah it's more about having direct connections. I guess we can't really use it to increase bandwidth except to people already on their network, but those who are on the network do tend to use our sites a lot, since they often have to do research. I'm not clear on whether we would be merely peering with them or actually adding another data link, since (for instance) Missouri University set up their own IXP just to connect to their network. But peering seems to achieve the desired result. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: FYI - Also while I would see a benefit in peering, I would probably use the transit or partial transit bgp group, since this is being like a transit network, and I wouldn't want to overrule our better paths to their downstream AS'es -- Forwarded message -- From: Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org Date: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and Internet2 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org As the network person, I don't really see any benefit in joining internet2, though I would see a benefit in possibly peering with them at Equinix Ashburn, since according to their looking glass they have a more direct connection to several AS'es than we do. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Jasper Deng jas...@jasperswebsite.com wrote: Sneakernets are not particularly convenient. If the organizations of the net wanted to use that for data transfer, the net wouldn't exist. But I still think Wikimedia could increase/streamline accessibility to its information. It probably couldn't happen, but they have more than enough capacity to serve our content alone from eqiad (replacing or augmenting our existing links). Wikimedia also develops new ways to reach more people (such as MediaWiki mobile) like many of the organizations. Internet2 is not set up as a true transit network, so this would not work. Another information organization that's participating is JSTOR, which I think is comparable to our projects as a source of information, so I think we can benefit from it. I'd respectfully disagree, as a Wikidata editor, that Commons is the only large database, because it may be large in terms of file size, but Wikidata has more tangible hard machine-readable data, with much more to come. But from a network perspective, wikidata is a small database since it is text... and the only benefit of joining internet2 is the network connection. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 October 2013 21:41, Jasper Deng jas...@jasperswebsite.com wrote: We could change that. Suppose a university wants to request the entire knowledgebase of Wikidata or another project, or if we need to do a mass transfer of data from them. Still not significant. The only really large database we have is the commons image database and a sneaker net might be the most practical option there. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Leslie Carr Wikimedia Foundation AS 14907, 43821 http://as14907.peeringdb.com/ -- Leslie Carr Wikimedia Foundation AS 14907, 43821 http://as14907.peeringdb.com/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Global East
Yesterday Yuri, ED of WMUA (and my college in FDC) was interviewed in the main morning program on Swedish Radio re the ua.wp contra ru:wp in Ukraine and of Kazak WIkipedia The 8 minutes report is half in Swedish and half in English so a bit hard to listen to [1] The most interesting parts are *The Kazak dictator is making all academics in this country to update the Kazan version of Wikipedia, perhaps to get it POV but mostly so they will not be dependent of ru:wp, ie he sees it as a must to have a decent Wikipedia version in order to be independent of the culture from Russia *In Ukraine the former education minister (pro eu and pro Ukrainian language) actively promoted the ua:wp so not be dependent on ru:wp. The current minister have the opposite idea and has made Russian an official second language in the eastern part of Ukraine *It seems the university students make it as almost a political choice if to use ua:wp or ru:wp, and then in western Ukraine choose ua:wp The central role of Wikipedia in theses vital political issues I have not heard of from our ordinary western chapters/language versions (or is catalonian/Amical an example) And reflecting on this, I also think, even if independent, of the dramatic increase of use of arabic and indonesian wikipedia [2] . Also of Vietnamese wikipedia which has a tremendous increase in number of article by intellegent use of bots. Also of the very interesting development in India, with their many different language versions. We here very little (nothing?) from these interesting developments, where we all probably can have a lot to learn Asaf talks of the problem of getting Global South started as there are very weak/missing wp communities. But are we as a movement doing enough to support the active communities and developments in the Global East? (I can not help also think of Sues words re elections within the movement. Do these processes conserve our existing dominance in Board and groups of representatives coming from western world?) Anders [1] http://sverigesradio.se/api/radio/radio.aspx?type=dbid=4725418codingformat=.m4ametafile=asx [2] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htmtic increase of use of arabic wikipedia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
