Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias
I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about Art Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects. With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists. 2014/1/23, Risker risker...@gmail.com: On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box would be the main attraction; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have to do is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an infobox with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ... low-tech ;-) Indeed - but we have to work with what we have. Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its single corresponding infobox, as a pilot? I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that might be affected, particularly as different projects have very different ideas about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language links is acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content, and this proposal is a close parallel. Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is hosted is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it into an actual page. Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to participate would be a first step. Risker/Anne ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias
Hoi, You are conflating two tools .. they are still quite distinct.. - What you refer to is a query tool and IT provides you with the numbers you quote. - Reasonator provides you with a search functionality and a display functionality So Reasonator gives you something like this [1] Thanks, GerardM [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?lang=nlq=3356848 [1] On 24 January 2014 09:24, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about Art Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects. With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists. 2014/1/23, Risker risker...@gmail.com: On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box would be the main attraction; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have to do is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an infobox with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ... low-tech ;-) Indeed - but we have to work with what we have. Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its single corresponding infobox, as a pilot? I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that might be affected, particularly as different projects have very different ideas about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language links is acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content, and this proposal is a close parallel. Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is hosted is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it into an actual page. Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to participate would be a first step. Risker/Anne ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Contribution to Visually impaired
Hi, I came across this interesting thread and I would like to contribute with results of our recent TAO project (Third Age Online). We did RD in the context of a joint EU project with respect to Wikipedia and Accessibility. A summary you can find here: http://www.thirdageonline.eu/project-tao-2/software-development/mediawiki-accessibility-enhancements/ among others containing a link to a tracking list for developers: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Accessibility_Tracking Some of the accessibility issues that have been identified in our study have already been fixed by the team of the German Chapter of Wikipedia, but there is still a lot to do in order to improve the situation. Kind Regards, Eduard Eduard Klein BUAS Bern University of Applied Sciences - Yes, indeed. Collaborating to get a well advertised clearing centre running would be a very good first step. But to get over the usual issue that nobody in the community comes forward to point out where the gaps are (which may not be surprising as the people we want to contact here are by definition already excluded from the community) we need outreach to the relevant impairment/disability groups to get their members involved. That is something that the Chapters would be good at, as many such groups/charities are national ones. There are quite a few in the UK, and no doubt more in Germany and elsewhere. Outreach is what the chapters do! Best regards Michael Michael Maggs Chair, Wikimedia UK On 15 Jan 2014, at 11:44, rexx rexx at blueyonder.co.ukhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l wrote: The single biggest problem, Michael, is that when one talks in the abstract, we end up chasing illusory problems that don't actually have any impact. It's very difficult to create systems that are always 100% accessible by all if we start by trying to second-guess what accessibility problems visitors might encounter. What we need is a well-advertised clearing centre where anybody who experiences an accessibility problem on one of our sites can register their problem, which would then allow us to examine it and provide the most effective solution. I'm quite happy to continue giving advice on the issues covered at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility and I'd like to see it adopted as default on the WMUK Wiki, but I question the value of volunteers re-inventing the wheel by chasing gaps that I'm not at all sure actually exist. -- Doug On 15 January 2014 11:08, Michael Maggs michael at maggs.namehttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l wrote: Can WMUK collaborate with WMDE (and others) on this to push it forward? Obviously a lot of good work has already been done, but perhaps it now needs some long term commitment and leadership to ensure that what has been done is made easily accessible, and to work on filling gaps in functionality (covering all aspects of disability). Michael WMUK Chair On 15 Jan 2014, at 09:34, Jon Davies jon.davies at wikimedia.org.ukhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l wrote: How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.comhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM * Previous message: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-January/129652.html * Next message: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-January/129649.html * Messages sorted by: [ date ]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-January/date.html#129646 [ thread ]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-January/thread.html#129646 [ subject ]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-January/subject.html#129646 [
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias
Hoi, As I recall it there is a category with Russian female painters.. Using Widar [1] and identifying them as a painter and a female takes all of 5 minutes.. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html On 24 January 2014 13:40, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Magnus, you are magical as always, thanks! What an odd list though - who has been working so diligently on Russian paintresses? Whoever you are, great work! meanwhile, sending more virtual kudos to Magnus while I dig into these results, Jane 2014/1/24, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: A list of female painters with no article on en.wp: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=claim%5B106%3A1028181%5D%20and%20claim%5B21%3A6581072%5D%20%20and%20nolink%5Benwiki%5D (might take a few seconds to load) Cheers, Magnus On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about Art Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects. With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists. 2014/1/23, Risker risker...@gmail.com: On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box would be the main attraction; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have to do is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an infobox with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ... low-tech ;-) Indeed - but we have to work with what we have. Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its single corresponding infobox, as a pilot? I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that might be affected, particularly as different projects have very different ideas about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language links is acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content, and this proposal is a close parallel. Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is hosted is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it into an actual page. Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to participate would be a first step. Risker/Anne ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l , mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- undefined ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 3 -- 22 January 2014
Book review: ''Missing Links and Secret Histories: A Selection of Wikipedia Entries from Across the Known Multiverse'' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22/Book_review Special report: The few who write Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22/Special_report News and notes: Modification of WMF protection brought to Arbcom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22/News_and_notes Featured content: Dr. Watson, I presume with the Tramp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22/Featured_content Traffic report: No show for the Globes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22/Traffic_report Technology report: Architecting the future of MediaWiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22/Technology_report Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22 http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open!
Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2013 Picture of the Year competition is now open. This year will be the eighth edition of the annual Wikimedia Commons photo competition, which recognizes exceptional contributions by users on Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia users are invited to vote for their favorite images featured on Commons during the last year (2013) to produce a single Picture of the Year. Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. These images include professional animal and plant shots, breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historical images, photographs portraying the world's best architecture, impressive human portraits, and so much more. For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topical categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you may vote for as many images as you like. The top 30 overall and the most popular image in each category will continue to the final. In the final round, you may vote for just one image to become the Picture of the Year Round 1 will end on 7 February 2014. To vote, visit https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction Thanks,User:Mono Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] New Program Evaluation report: Wiki Loves Monuments
Thanks! The most interesting datum I've noticed so far is the rate of active editor (5+ edits/month) retention among new contributors after six months, which is about 0.4%. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_portal/Library/WLM#New_users That (along with the easy-to-measure and already known sheer quanities of photos generated) seems to me to be the most robust number to use in evaluating WLM (and comparable) funding requests. 0.4% may be considered worthwhile or not enough, depending on local contexts, so I'm not drawing a universal conclusion from it, just noting it. (just thinking out loud here.) A. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! Great to see this summary. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:00 PM, LiAnna Davis lda...@wikimedia.orgwrote: (please excuse cross-posting) Hi everyone! I posted the latest in the string of program evaluation reports on Meta today, on Wiki Loves Monuments: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_portal/Library/WLM Highlights of the report include: * About 17% of the images uploaded through Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 are in use on our projects. * The majority of Wiki Loves Monuments participants are new users; however, the survival rate of new users is low (1.7% of the 2012 participants made at least one edit and 1.4% uploaded at least one new file to Commons six months after the event). * Half of the existing editors who participated in Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 also participated in Wiki Loves Monuments 2013, with new users making up for the other half. * The global Wiki Loves Monuments organizing team helps support Wiki Loves Monuments organizers around the world, providing replication opportunities via direct support. This makes it easier for someone to organize their own Wiki Loves Monuments contest. Questions are welcomed and encouraged on the talk page. On behalf of the Program Evaluation team, LiAnna -- LiAnna Davis Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation http://education.wikimedia.org +1-(415) 839-6885 x6649 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open!
for convenience, the correct link is of course without the thanks bit: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction I've started voting, and I've had to stop to express my thanks and admiration for the _fantastic_ experience provided this year. I'm sure it was a tremendous amount of work -- it's really appreciated! Everything is neat and responsive, the announcement comes when the information is already localized to quite a few languages, and the whole thing is just tremendously appealing. So thank you, everyone involved with all aspects of making this the awesomest POTY experience ever, right from the start. Even if you've never participated in POTY before, or didn't like the process previously, I encourage you to give it a shot this year! (those who know my wiki ways will know I am very much a verbal rather than visual kind of Wikimedian; I assure you some of my colleagues at WMF are double-checking the From: line in disbelief. I'm really that impressed!) Asaf On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:11 PM, User Mono userm...@outlook.com wrote: Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2013 Picture of the Year competition is now open. This year will be the eighth edition of the annual Wikimedia Commons photo competition, which recognizes exceptional contributions by users on Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia users are invited to vote for their favorite images featured on Commons during the last year (2013) to produce a single Picture of the Year. Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. These images include professional animal and plant shots, breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historical images, photographs portraying the world's best architecture, impressive human portraits, and so much more. For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topical categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you may vote for as many images as you like. The top 30 overall and the most popular image in each category will continue to the final. In the final round, you may vote for just one image to become the Picture of the Year Round 1 will end on 7 February 2014. To vote, visit https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction Thanks,User:Mono Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
