Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

[Todd Allen]

Exactly this.

If the government of any given country wants to redirect certain articles,
or all of Wikipedia, to a page saying "This content blocked by the Ministry
of Knowledge", people will know they're being censored. If instead they
reach a "sanitized" version of the article reflecting the government's
preferred spin, we're putting that government's spin in our voice. That's
not at all acceptable.

Let them censor, let them make it obvious, and let them deal with the
fallout. But we should absolutely not help them in any way whatsoever.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Austin Hair  wrote:

> I think that if you stop to think about it another way, you'll find
> that this would do the opposite of what you intend, to wit: allowing
> "various courts" to impose editorial control.
>
> Imagine Circletine, once a popular childhood beverage but now the
> issue of some controversy regarding its tendency to cause tooth loss.
> Although banned from sale in Europe and the United States, an
> aggressive marketing campaign has made it the best-selling soft drink
> in the nation of Elbonia. Equally aggressive lobbying in the Elbonian
> parliament has resulted it in being a crime to disparage Circletine in
> any way, or even to mention the controversy in print.
>
> And so we have our article:
>
> '''Circletine''' is a  country="elbonia">controversial milk flavoring product made
> from malt extract, curds, and whey,  country="elbonia">once extremely popular worldwide
>
> Although it enjoyed several decades of
> success as an inexpensive beverage marketed mostly for children,
> concerns over an increased risk of tooth loss led to its withdrawal
> from sale in most western countries.
>
> (I think you can see where this is going.)
>
> Censorship is awful, but partial censorship is worse than simply
> saying "I'm not allowed to talk about it. Ask your government why."
>
> Austin
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Yuri  wrote:
> > I submitted the proposal to be able to eliminate certain parts of the
> > articles in certain countries, where the local governments find those
> parts
> > illegal: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62231
> > But it got rejected, and I am not sure I am clear why.
> >
> > The problem is that there are countries that lack the freedom of speech
> > (most of the countries), and some of them get very aggressive about
> banning
> > materials that most reasonable people wouldn't find objectionable. The
> very
> > recent example, provided in the bug report above, is banning of any
> > references of Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" in Russia. While this case
> > may seem not as important, but I don't see why users outside Russia
> should
> > be affected by such decision, when they may not even support any
> decisions
> > or values of the said government. Yet, everybody's version of wikipedia
> page
> > is affected, and materials are hidden.
> >
> > My suggestion, if implemented, would allow to hide certain parts of the
> > articles in the country (or area) of jurisdiction of the corresponding
> > court, while allowing users not living there to still see the original
> > version.
> >
> > If such governments get their way in banning materials globally, this
> will
> > effectively make wikipedia biased, and reflecting various POVs of various
> > courts, which has never been intended by wikipedia.
> >
> > Yuri
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

[Austin Hair]

I think that if you stop to think about it another way, you'll find
that this would do the opposite of what you intend, to wit: allowing
"various courts" to impose editorial control.

Imagine Circletine, once a popular childhood beverage but now the
issue of some controversy regarding its tendency to cause tooth loss.
Although banned from sale in Europe and the United States, an
aggressive marketing campaign has made it the best-selling soft drink
in the nation of Elbonia. Equally aggressive lobbying in the Elbonian
parliament has resulted it in being a crime to disparage Circletine in
any way, or even to mention the controversy in print.

And so we have our article:

'''Circletine''' is a controversial milk flavoring product made
from malt extract, curds, and whey, once extremely popular worldwide

Although it enjoyed several decades of
success as an inexpensive beverage marketed mostly for children,
concerns over an increased risk of tooth loss led to its withdrawal
from sale in most western countries.

(I think you can see where this is going.)

Censorship is awful, but partial censorship is worse than simply
saying "I'm not allowed to talk about it. Ask your government why."

Austin


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Yuri  wrote:
> I submitted the proposal to be able to eliminate certain parts of the
> articles in certain countries, where the local governments find those parts
> illegal: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62231
> But it got rejected, and I am not sure I am clear why.
>
> The problem is that there are countries that lack the freedom of speech
> (most of the countries), and some of them get very aggressive about banning
> materials that most reasonable people wouldn't find objectionable. The very
> recent example, provided in the bug report above, is banning of any
> references of Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" in Russia. While this case
> may seem not as important, but I don't see why users outside Russia should
> be affected by such decision, when they may not even support any decisions
> or values of the said government. Yet, everybody's version of wikipedia page
> is affected, and materials are hidden.
>
> My suggestion, if implemented, would allow to hide certain parts of the
> articles in the country (or area) of jurisdiction of the corresponding
> court, while allowing users not living there to still see the original
> version.
>
> If such governments get their way in banning materials globally, this will
> effectively make wikipedia biased, and reflecting various POVs of various
> courts, which has never been intended by wikipedia.
>
> Yuri
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

[Marc A. Pelletier]

On 03/04/2014 10:50 PM, Yuri wrote:
> But it got rejected, and I am not sure I am clear why.

I haven't opined on the specific bug, but I would also have rejected it.
 The reason why is simple:  it goes exactly opposite everything the
projects stand for.

Our mission isn't "collect all of the knowledge but only show some of it
to some people, depending on the whims of random governments (or some
people's interpretations of those whims)".

We might not be able to prevent some entities from censoring us; but we
certainly should not do it for them.

-- Marc


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[Wikimedia-l] [feature suggestion] Be able to include/exclude certain page fragments based on the geographic area

[Yuri]

I submitted the proposal to be able to eliminate certain parts of the 
articles in certain countries, where the local governments find those 
parts illegal: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62231

But it got rejected, and I am not sure I am clear why.

The problem is that there are countries that lack the freedom of speech 
(most of the countries), and some of them get very aggressive about 
banning materials that most reasonable people wouldn't find 
objectionable. The very recent example, provided in the bug report 
above, is banning of any references of Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" 
in Russia. While this case may seem not as important, but I don't see 
why users outside Russia should be affected by such decision, when they 
may not even support any decisions or values of the said government. 
Yet, everybody's version of wikipedia page is affected, and materials 
are hidden.


My suggestion, if implemented, would allow to hide certain parts of the 
articles in the country (or area) of jurisdiction of the corresponding 
court, while allowing users not living there to still see the original 
version.


If such governments get their way in banning materials globally, this 
will effectively make wikipedia biased, and reflecting various POVs of 
various courts, which has never been intended by wikipedia.


Yuri

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Press Release: Wikimedia Indonesia Receive Grant from The Ford Foundation to Preserve Indonesian Culture By Content Digitalization

[Tonmoy Khan]

Congratulations to Wikimedia Indonesia. Great work!!




Ali Haidar Khan (tOnmOy)
Treasurer
Wikimedia Bangladesh

"ভাবুনতো এমন এক পৃথিবীর কথা, যেখানে প্রতিটি মানুষ সমস্ত জ্ঞান বাধাহীন ভাবে
আদান প্রদান করতে পারবে। এটাই আমাদের অঙ্গীকার।"



On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:54 PM,  wrote:

> Congratulations. I'm very excited for you all.
>
> Sydney Poore
> User:FloNight
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 4, 2014, at 8:56, Isabella Apriyana <
> isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > We are happy to announce that Wikimedia Indonesia is awarded a grant by
> The
> > Ford Foundation to support our projects on Indonesian content
> > digitalization. Please find below the official press release. Thank you.
> >
> >
> > *Press Release*
> > To be distributedJakarta, 3 March 2014
> >
> >
> > *Wikimedia Indonesia Receive Grant from The Ford Foundation to Preserve
> > Indonesian Culture By Content Digitalization*
> >
> >
> >
> > Wikimedia Indonesia, an independent association established by Indonesian
> > Language Wikipedia volunteers, has received a grant from The Ford
> > Foundation for two separate programs that will be carried through 2014
> and
> > 2015. This follows the successful completion of the first grant from Ford
> > Foundation to Wikimedia Indonesia awarded in 2011 to support Creative
> > Commons Indonesia  and Cipta Media
> > Bersama from
> > 2011-2013.
> >
> > The first program is to Preserve Indonesian Culture by Content
> > Digitalization, an effort supported by the Indonesian Coordinating
> Ministry
> > for People's Welfare under PNPM Pusaka program, and coordinated under
> SAPA
> > (Stratetic Alliance for Poverty Alleviation).
> >
> > The project has a budget of USD 125,000 (1,4 billion rupiah) to be used
> by
> > Wikimedia Indonesia for the following wikimedia projects:
> >
> >   1. Indonesian Wikipedia (Free Your Knowledge
> > 2014 in
> >   Jakarta, Bandung, and Yogyakarta)
> >   2. Javanese Wikipedia (Semarang, Yogyakarta, and Solo)
> >   3. Sundanese Wikipedia (Bandung)
> >   4. Banjar Wikipedia (Samarinda and Banjarmasin)
> >   5. Minankabau Wikipedia (Pekanbaru)
> >   6. Digitalization of Indonesian content for the Wikisource project
> >   (online)
> >
> > Ten universities from Jakarta, Bandung, and Yogyakarta have signed up to
> > participate in Free Your Knowledge 2014, Indonesian Wikipedia writing
> > competition, which will commence in March 2014. The other wikimedia
> > projects will commence in mid 2014.
> >
> > The second program is Cipta Media Seluler , a
> joint
> > effort between Wikimedia Indonesia, ICT Watch, Independent Journalist
> > Alliance Indonesia, and Ford Foundation with the total value of USD
> 750,000
> > to fund cellular initiatives with social justice goals via open call for
> > proposals.
> >
> >
> > ** * END * **
> >
> >   - For more information, please contact Ivonne
> > Kristiani,
> >   Secretary General of Wikimedia Indonesia at info[image:
> > px]
> >   wikimedia.or.id.
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Isabella Apriyana*
> > *Wakil Sekretaris Jendral 2013-2015*
> > *Deputy Secretary General 2013-2015*
> > *Wikimedia Indonesia*
> > Seluler (Ph.) +628889752858
> > Surel (E-mail) isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id
> >
> >
> > Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan
> > http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Press Release: Wikimedia Indonesia Receive Grant from The Ford Foundation to Preserve Indonesian Culture By Content Digitalization

[sydney . poore]

Congratulations. I'm very excited for you all. 

Sydney Poore
User:FloNight

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 4, 2014, at 8:56, Isabella Apriyana  
wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> We are happy to announce that Wikimedia Indonesia is awarded a grant by The
> Ford Foundation to support our projects on Indonesian content
> digitalization. Please find below the official press release. Thank you.
> 
> 
> *Press Release*
> To be distributedJakarta, 3 March 2014
> 
> 
> *Wikimedia Indonesia Receive Grant from The Ford Foundation to Preserve
> Indonesian Culture By Content Digitalization*
> 
> 
> 
> Wikimedia Indonesia, an independent association established by Indonesian
> Language Wikipedia volunteers, has received a grant from The Ford
> Foundation for two separate programs that will be carried through 2014 and
> 2015. This follows the successful completion of the first grant from Ford
> Foundation to Wikimedia Indonesia awarded in 2011 to support Creative
> Commons Indonesia  and Cipta Media
> Bersama from
> 2011-2013.
> 
> The first program is to Preserve Indonesian Culture by Content
> Digitalization, an effort supported by the Indonesian Coordinating Ministry
> for People's Welfare under PNPM Pusaka program, and coordinated under SAPA
> (Stratetic Alliance for Poverty Alleviation).
> 
> The project has a budget of USD 125,000 (1,4 billion rupiah) to be used by
> Wikimedia Indonesia for the following wikimedia projects:
> 
>   1. Indonesian Wikipedia (Free Your Knowledge
> 2014 in
>   Jakarta, Bandung, and Yogyakarta)
>   2. Javanese Wikipedia (Semarang, Yogyakarta, and Solo)
>   3. Sundanese Wikipedia (Bandung)
>   4. Banjar Wikipedia (Samarinda and Banjarmasin)
>   5. Minankabau Wikipedia (Pekanbaru)
>   6. Digitalization of Indonesian content for the Wikisource project
>   (online)
> 
> Ten universities from Jakarta, Bandung, and Yogyakarta have signed up to
> participate in Free Your Knowledge 2014, Indonesian Wikipedia writing
> competition, which will commence in March 2014. The other wikimedia
> projects will commence in mid 2014.
> 
> The second program is Cipta Media Seluler , a joint
> effort between Wikimedia Indonesia, ICT Watch, Independent Journalist
> Alliance Indonesia, and Ford Foundation with the total value of USD 750,000
> to fund cellular initiatives with social justice goals via open call for
> proposals.
> 
> 
> ** * END * **
> 
>   - For more information, please contact Ivonne
> Kristiani,
>   Secretary General of Wikimedia Indonesia at info[image:
> px]
>   wikimedia.or.id.
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Isabella Apriyana*
> *Wakil Sekretaris Jendral 2013-2015*
> *Deputy Secretary General 2013-2015*
> *Wikimedia Indonesia*
> Seluler (Ph.) +628889752858
> Surel (E-mail) isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id
> 
> 
> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan
> http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
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[Wikimedia-l] Press Release: Wikimedia Indonesia Receive Grant from The Ford Foundation to Preserve Indonesian Culture By Content Digitalization

[Isabella Apriyana]

Hello all,

We are happy to announce that Wikimedia Indonesia is awarded a grant by The
Ford Foundation to support our projects on Indonesian content
digitalization. Please find below the official press release. Thank you.


*Press Release*
To be distributedJakarta, 3 March 2014


*Wikimedia Indonesia Receive Grant from The Ford Foundation to Preserve
Indonesian Culture By Content Digitalization*



Wikimedia Indonesia, an independent association established by Indonesian
Language Wikipedia volunteers, has received a grant from The Ford
Foundation for two separate programs that will be carried through 2014 and
2015. This follows the successful completion of the first grant from Ford
Foundation to Wikimedia Indonesia awarded in 2011 to support Creative
Commons Indonesia  and Cipta Media
Bersama from
2011-2013.

The first program is to Preserve Indonesian Culture by Content
Digitalization, an effort supported by the Indonesian Coordinating Ministry
for People's Welfare under PNPM Pusaka program, and coordinated under SAPA
(Stratetic Alliance for Poverty Alleviation).

The project has a budget of USD 125,000 (1,4 billion rupiah) to be used by
Wikimedia Indonesia for the following wikimedia projects:

   1. Indonesian Wikipedia (Free Your Knowledge
2014 in
   Jakarta, Bandung, and Yogyakarta)
   2. Javanese Wikipedia (Semarang, Yogyakarta, and Solo)
   3. Sundanese Wikipedia (Bandung)
   4. Banjar Wikipedia (Samarinda and Banjarmasin)
   5. Minankabau Wikipedia (Pekanbaru)
   6. Digitalization of Indonesian content for the Wikisource project
   (online)

Ten universities from Jakarta, Bandung, and Yogyakarta have signed up to
participate in Free Your Knowledge 2014, Indonesian Wikipedia writing
competition, which will commence in March 2014. The other wikimedia
projects will commence in mid 2014.

The second program is Cipta Media Seluler , a joint
effort between Wikimedia Indonesia, ICT Watch, Independent Journalist
Alliance Indonesia, and Ford Foundation with the total value of USD 750,000
to fund cellular initiatives with social justice goals via open call for
proposals.


** * END * **

   - For more information, please contact Ivonne
Kristiani,
   Secretary General of Wikimedia Indonesia at info[image:
px]
   wikimedia.or.id.


-- 
*Isabella Apriyana*
*Wakil Sekretaris Jendral 2013-2015*
*Deputy Secretary General 2013-2015*
*Wikimedia Indonesia*
Seluler (Ph.) +628889752858
Surel (E-mail) isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id


Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming "Wikipedistes" documentary in Catalan TV

[Joan Goma]

> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:01:58 +0100
> From: Jane Darnell 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming "Wikipedistes" documentary in
> Catalan TV
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>
> Thanks for posting - I loved the documentary! For me the most obvious
> difference between the groups shown in your various meetings and the
> get-togethers we have in the Netherlands is the age of the
> participants. I think we in WMNL attract a lot more "gray hair" than
> you do. I think it would be a great idea to cut it up into clips,
> because there are lots of themes in there that can all draw their own
> public (libraries & museums, WLM, QRpedia, etc.)
>
> I wonder if the age difference has to do with the slightly political
> nature of keeping a smaller language afloat in a country that
> recognizes another language as the official one?


It has to do with the slightly political nature of trying to extinguish a
great language. All gray haired appearing in the video they had to learn to
write being adults. When they went to school the Catalan was banned and
persecuted.


> It makes me wonder
> about the average age of the people showing up at meetings for the
> Frisian Wikipedia in the northern cities of the Netherlands. I have
> never been to one of their meetings before but now I am curious (and
> we don't have a Frisian Wikimedia community - yet).
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding programs for individuals.

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Jane Darnell, 04/03/2014 09:56:

Um, definitely a +1 for claiming NemoFind as official WMF trademark btw


Ugh.


[...]

2014-03-03 1:46 GMT+01:00, Samuel Klein  [...]


Prior claim: Disney
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7365379072/h0C8A494A/


Priorer: Jules Verne, 1870, as tranlated in 
.


Nemo

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[Jane Darnell]

Um, definitely a +1 for claiming NemoFind as official WMF trademark btw

2014-03-04 9:55 GMT+01:00, Jane Darnell :
> I just found this link serendipitously while asking for help at the
> village pump in order to translate the IEG grant process pages into
> Dutch:
> https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Financi%C3%ABle_Ondersteuning_Kleine_Activiteiten
>
> I knew we had the "Support small projects" program within WMNL, but I
> didn't know we had reports too!
>
> 2014-03-03 1:46 GMT+01:00, Samuel Klein :
>> Denis: I found it useful, thank you.  I believe there is a long
>> history of this in other chapters as well, such as Wikimedia Polska.
>> Are other grantmaking overviews published online?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Cristian Consonni
>>  wrote:
>>> 2014-03-02 1:36 GMT+01:00 Samuel Klein :
 +1 to moving from ElasticSearch to NemoFind.
>>>
>>> I am sorry, but NemoFind is a trademark of WM-IT.
>>
>> Prior claim: Disney
>> https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7365379072/h0C8A494A/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding programs for individuals.

[Jane Darnell]

I just found this link serendipitously while asking for help at the
village pump in order to translate the IEG grant process pages into
Dutch:
https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Financi%C3%ABle_Ondersteuning_Kleine_Activiteiten

I knew we had the "Support small projects" program within WMNL, but I
didn't know we had reports too!

2014-03-03 1:46 GMT+01:00, Samuel Klein :
> Denis: I found it useful, thank you.  I believe there is a long
> history of this in other chapters as well, such as Wikimedia Polska.
> Are other grantmaking overviews published online?
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Cristian Consonni
>  wrote:
>> 2014-03-02 1:36 GMT+01:00 Samuel Klein :
>>> +1 to moving from ElasticSearch to NemoFind.
>>
>> I am sorry, but NemoFind is a trademark of WM-IT.
>
> Prior claim: Disney
> https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7365379072/h0C8A494A/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming "Wikipedistes" documentary in Catalan TV

[Jane Darnell]

Thanks for posting - I loved the documentary! For me the most obvious
difference between the groups shown in your various meetings and the
get-togethers we have in the Netherlands is the age of the
participants. I think we in WMNL attract a lot more "gray hair" than
you do. I think it would be a great idea to cut it up into clips,
because there are lots of themes in there that can all draw their own
public (libraries & museums, WLM, QRpedia, etc.)

I wonder if the age difference has to do with the slightly political
nature of keeping a smaller language afloat in a country that
recognizes another language as the official one? It makes me wonder
about the average age of the people showing up at meetings for the
Frisian Wikipedia in the northern cities of the Netherlands. I have
never been to one of their meetings before but now I am curious (and
we don't have a Frisian Wikimedia community - yet).

2014-03-04 0:51 GMT+01:00, Quim Gil :
> On 03/03/2014 12:50 AM, Pau Giner wrote:
>> The video, in Catalan, can be viewed at
>> http://www.tv3.cat/videos/4930191/30%2520minuts%253A%2520VIQUIPEDISTES
>
> Yes, thank you!
>
> The documentary was good but, as a whole, more Catalan-centric than I
> personally expected. Still, the ca.wiki community has started to discuss
> the possibility to cut the documentary in "capsules", and then some of
> those might become very good introductions for just anybody interested
> in how Wikipedia works. No specific plans yet.
>
> The producers did a good job at compiling diverse perspectives and focus
> areas: how some editors started with a first edit, how veteran editors
> work on top quality articles with references, how admins deal with
> vandalism, neutrality and different views in different languages, GLAM
> and the photographers, community meetings, WMF and the state-based
> chapters vs language-based projects, the role of public libraries and
> museums as educators, content creators and gender gap shifters, the
> views from the academia...
>
> One recurrent topic was the massive use of Wikipedia among young
> students, with funny scenes at class when the kids laugh because their
> works use basically the same sentences, all copied in a single stroke
> from the same articles. How the teacher encourages them to use Wikipedia
> but find your own words to express those ideas, where researchers think
> that all this is heading to...
>
> They also interviewed the guy that created the first article in ca.wiki,
> which happened to be the first article in a language other than English
>  -- https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%80bac . It was interesting to hear
> from him that one day the text-based Wikipedia will be history because
> most probably learning will be based in media. It kept me thinking
> whether it will be still the Wikimedia community who will ride that
> wave, or someone else with fresh ideas and without the legacy and
> community burdens we have...
>
> Anyway, at least Amical and ca.wiki have now very good audiovisual
> materials that will help them a lot reaching out to new contributors and
> explaining to them all the things we do here.
>
>
>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:
>>
>>> (Stepping out of my WMF tech role, wearing my ca.wiki volunteering hat.)
>>>
>>> This Sunday the program "30 minuts" of TV3 (top TV channel in Catalan)
>>> will broadcast a documentary about "Wikipedistes". Yes, it has a small
>>> audience compared to US prime time, but in terms of Catalan audience you
>>> probably can't go more prime time than that without being ''indecent''
>>> or wearing a FC Barcelona shirt.  :)
>>>
>>> http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/en
>>>
>>> What is more important, this veteran program keeps very high standards
>>> in journalism and TV reporting. The two previews being aired these days
>>> are promising:
>>>
>>> http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/proper
>>>
>>> Any single editor appearing in these trailers has been already contacted
>>> by friends and relatives ("Hey, I saw you on TV!!!"), and the ca.wiki /
>>> Amical Wikimedia supporters can't wait to watch the full version.
>>>
>>> The documentary will be available online. If it is as good as the
>>> average "30 minuts" documentaries are, we {{Who}} might think of a way
>>> to get it subtitled in English. They have an archive of programs with
>>> English subtitles (see the first link), but with all the budget cuts
>>> public TV is facing I don't know how much resources would they have for
>>> translating "Wikipedistes", even if the idea makes sense. Crowdsourcing?
>>> Anyway, more if/when the documentary is good.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Quim Gil
>>> Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
>>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
>>>
>>>
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