Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org wrote: I haven't read this thread, but I'll explain my editing history as Wikitedium: First of all, I listed my user name as soon as I started at Wikipedia. It's still listed here on my (out of date) staff/contractor page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zackexley I did start an article about myself a long time ago. I didn't know there was a policy against it. I wasn't an active editor and knew virtually no policies. I created the article because right wing media personalities were doing hit pieces on me and the Republican party was sending out emails asking people to write letters to the editor about me featuring lots of false facts. So I saw Wikipedia as an open encyclopedia that anyone can edit where I could set the record straight. Later I learned it was against policy and FELT REALLY BAD. As for the other edits on projects I was involved with. My personal opinion is that those kinds of edits are vital to the future of Wikipedia. I want everyone to add everything they're working on to Wikipedia -- and then all their critics to come and add what they know. I'm saddened every time I go looking for something I expect to be in Wikipedia and find nothing -- and am forced to rely on the organization's own site or whatever. OK -- I think that's all you need from me. Now enjoy yourselves as you continue to grind Wikipedia to a whining halt. zack, i find this a little offending. most of the persons in this discussion thread did more edits in the last months than you in your lifetime - and this without touching an article about self, or accepting that the colleagues at work do so. its you who gets a 6 digit number of donors money wired to your bank account every year. you can be sure they did not give it because of your edits. instead of feeling bad you might consider doing something about the cause. e.g. you might propose your own article for deletion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion). what makes this whole story confusing to me are the following pages: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Organizing_Institute * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_freeman * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Carteroni * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mstemp the zack exley wikipedia page says you are president of new organizing institute, and you let some one time wikipedia user create an article about your organization again, and let another one time user create a page for your only partner in that organization? after feeling terribly bad? after being chief community officer at WMF responsible for developing the foundations relationship with the editing community? many thanks, zack, that you are there. otherwise the whole thing would have fallen apart (wikimedia), as you say in this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQfHVGMrHCY rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian Open Street Map receive ALL VOICES GRANT
Hi Asaf, We will update the wiki page soon, including all budget and activity plans. We'll inform you the soonest! On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Congratulations, WMID and HOT OSM! Where can one read more about the project? The link provided was not enough for me to get a sense for what the grant actually funds, and it would be interesting to learn from, and perhaps applicable elsewhere too. Thanks, Asaf On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Congrats! Eager to see what great things are built. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Isabella Apriyana isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id wrote: Dear all, We are happy to inform you that Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT OSM) just received the news that our proposal submitted to Making All Voices Count grant program was accepted. We got £ 31,000 worth of grant to work on growing open content in Kalimantan, Indonesia. The proposal was submitted last year and co-written by Wikimedia (Siska Doviana, Ivonne Kristiani, John Vandenberg) and HOT OSM (Kate Chapman and Yantisa Akhadi). We are so excited because this is our first big collaboration project together and out of 500 proposals worldwide (well, seven countries) only 28 received funding, and we are one of them. We also realized that we just became internationally competitive in grant seeking. Thank you to them, and back to work for us! Official page from Making All Voices Count: http://www.makingallvoicescount.org/project/open-content-in-kalimantan-wikipedia-openstreetmap-for-transparency/ Cheers, -- *Isabella Apriyana* *Wakil Sekretaris Jendral* *(Deputy Secretary General)Wikimedia Indonesia* Seluler +628889752858/ +6281213700084 Surel isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi Support us to free the knowledge! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Isabella Apriyana* *Wakil Sekretaris Jendral* *(Deputy Secretary General)Wikimedia Indonesia* Seluler +628889752858/ +6281213700084 Surel isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi Support us to free the knowledge! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
Welcome back! Andrea On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, Interested in your old haunts at the language committee ? Any way, wb ! Thanks, Gerard On 17 April 2014 22:47, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: For those who care, I'm back. My absence wasn't related to Wikimedia. It was about first world problems, which hit me quite hard. I never thought that the transition from the second to the first world problems would be painful. Few years ago I'd have called it decadence. So, lesson learned. Anyway, I thought that I would see something completely different here and was worried a bit about my ability to adapt. But, I see that everything is as it was. Good old heated debates. And known [virtual] faces :D I feel I am home again :) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 10 years of wikimedia-l
On 18.04.2014 00:13, phoebe ayers wrote: Hello everyone! ... -- phoebe Thanks Phoebe for - how should I say - an exciting post? I enjoyed reading it a lot. And, well, yes - happy birthday to all of us. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
Thank to all for welcome :) I am good. It was nothing which good introspection, some formal education and rational thinking wasn't able to solve. Besides that, I was better at the time when I decided to leave Wikimedia for a while. That was the product of rational decision. Andy, Serbian beer is like English wine: it exists, it's consisted of ethanol -- among the other things --, you can drink it without serious consequences to your health, but it's not for hoarding :P Rakija is the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it in Pristina? Or not? :P David, yes, I thought the same :) Just didn't know when. Nathan, the fact that I stopped contributing to this list doesn't mean that I suddenly stopped being attention whore ;) And now it's time for plans. Although I am willing to do everything, I have to limit my enthusiasm not to be overwhelmed again. So, small steps: * I'm de facto in charge for Wikimedia Serbia microgrant projects. Searching for new Wikimedians locally. * Coming back to the Language committee. There are 3000 languages which Wikimedia could save. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 10 years of wikimedia-l
Nice post, Phoebe! Congrats to all, indeed. 2014-04-18 13:56 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru: On 18.04.2014 00:13, phoebe ayers wrote: Hello everyone! ... -- phoebe Thanks Phoebe for - how should I say - an exciting post? I enjoyed reading it a lot. And, well, yes - happy birthday to all of us. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Atentamente:Iván MartínezPresidenteWikimedia México A.C.wikimedia.mx http://wikimedia.mxImagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso libre a la suma total del conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos haciendo http://es.wikipedia.org. * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
On 18 April 2014 14:20, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Rakija is the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it in Pristina? Or not? :P Unfortunately, I remember both drinking the lovely Rakija, and the morning after... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
Great news, Milos; welcome back!. btw- I also remember Rakija from Pristina. :) Take care. Arnau Duran Ferrero - Amical Wikimedia 2014-04-18 16:23 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: On 18 April 2014 14:20, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Rakija is the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it in Pristina? Or not? :P Unfortunately, I remember both drinking the lovely Rakija, and the morning after... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
Andy, Serbian beer is like English wine: it exists, it's consisted of ethanol -- among the other things --, you can drink it without serious consequences to your health, but it's not for hoarding :P Rakija is the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it in Pristina? Or not? :P I had some Raki Rrushi in Prishtina: http://aharoni.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/wikiacademy-kosovo-2014-or-this-israeli-geek-made-a-joke-about-hobbits-you-wont-believe-what-happened-next/ I also some Macedonian beer there, which was not bad at all. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations
2014-04-18 0:46 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org: * There is a specific need, a conference we could support, a developer event or something we could help out with. There is a clear goal, and it is one-time. We have a clear benefit. For example: helping OTRS to become less messy. [OT] As a Wikimedia list moderator (just a couple, the Wiki Loves Monuments ones) I am ready to pay gold for anything that would reduce the amount of spam in the queues be it a better spam filter, a system to delete spam from multiple lists at once, magic or whatever! Cristian p.s.: pay gold is a figure of speech, but I would definitely personally support such a project! [OT] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations
Hi Cristian, On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-18 0:46 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org: * There is a specific need, a conference we could support, a developer event or something we could help out with. There is a clear goal, and it is one-time. We have a clear benefit. For example: helping OTRS to become less messy. [OT] As a Wikimedia list moderator (just a couple, the Wiki Loves Monuments ones) I am ready to pay gold for anything that would reduce the amount of spam in the queues be it a better spam filter, a system to delete spam from multiple lists at once, magic or whatever! Cristian p.s.: pay gold is a figure of speech, but I would definitely personally support such a project! yeah, as moderator on some other lists, I share your feelings about spam. Note though that SpamAssassin is already running in our Mailman installation and generating spam scores for mailing list messages, just not actively discarding them based on these scores. A few weeks ago, Daniel from Ops wrote up some documentation on how you can activate that for your list as a list admin: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lists.wikimedia.org#Fighting_spam_in_mailman The current blocker is that it is generating some false positives, i.e. someone would need to spend time to tweak and test the settings: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56525 So it looks we have to some of our own homework first here. But if it turns out that there are limitations in SpamAssassin which we could help them overcome to make it more effective for our purposes, that might be a very good use of donor money. (As an example concerning your suggestion for a system to delete spam from multiple lists at once: I'm not sure if SpamAssassin is currently integrated with Mailman in a way that enables it to learn from list moderator actions immediately. See e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpamAssassin#Bayesian_filtering http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ -- The Future ) [OT] -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
Andy On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote: On 18 April 2014 14:20, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Rakija is the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it in Pristina? Or not? :P Unfortunately, I remember both drinking the lovely Rakija, and the morning after... Was the morning after something like this? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balkanball_shenanigans.png Cheers Russavia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Was the morning after something like this? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balkanball_shenanigans.png True, the only way how Serbs are getting really drunk. It has to be about the strength of rakija made by someone else, not necessarily of other ethnicity. But it was not the case with Andy. He was just regularly unprepared Northerner, thinking that he's drinking whiskey or vodka. Nobody else complained about the effects of rakija :) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
