Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
A nice move indeed, but I am wondering why you not chose the cc-by 4.0?
Rupert
On Oct 27, 2014 6:52 PM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Wonderful news! Great!
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:25 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com
wrote:
A nice move indeed, but I am wondering why you not chose the cc-by 4.0?
Rupert
On Oct 27, 2014 6:52 PM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
This indeed a great news! Thanks to WMF, especially the legal team.
Cheers
Ali Haidar Khan
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Treasurer, Wikimedia Bangladesh
On Oct 27, 2014 11:52 PM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] new Math options: phrasing the preferences
Hi Peter,
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Peter Krautzberger
peter.krautzber...@mathjax.org wrote:
While I can understand that the SVG images were orginally optimized of
inline use, I do not see any principal reason why inline SVG's are
better.
a) all rendering issues have been due to SVGs not being linine
That's what I do not understand. Do you need to produce different SVG
images for inline and external images? That does not sound intuitive
for me. Or are ther problems in the way browsers render svg-images.
This would indicate that there are browsers with limited MathML and
SVG support.
b) accessibility of the SVG output: only inline SVG can be styled by
client-side CSS. A very important accessibility use case are User Style
Sheets since many users just need visual enhancements.
I'm convinced that content MathML is needed for good accessibility.
See the ntcir-11 challange regarding $f_xy=f_yx$ or
$\langle\frac1x\rangle\ge\frac1{\langle x \rangle}$
http://ntcir11-wmc.nii.ac.jp/index.php/NTCIR-11-Math-Wikipedia-Task#Content_Queries
.
c) improve page performance by reducing http requests. A math page seems to
easily gather 100 and more equations, all of which cause separate http
requests. @physikerwelt do you have data on how much equations are actually
used across pages? In particular, beyond simple math \mathbb{N} \math
situations.
I see your point. However this is a general problem with images. So we
need a general solution, if the number of requests is a problem. I had
the impression that squid could handle quite a few requests per second
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/KnowledgeBase/Benchmarks#Squid_trunk_revno_13251
I'm not sure which cachig system is currently used in production but I
guess the number of requests is not an issue at the moment.
Yes, I have numbers about the cross page use of formulae. I'll send an
updated report on enwiki in the following weeks. (Latests on 15'th of
Jan.)
Best
Moritz
As I said, I did not mean to open up that debate -- that's simply not my
call.
P.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Physikerwelt w...@physikerwelt.de wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Peter,
On 10/27/2014 03:08 AM, Peter Krautzberger wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
It would also be nice to reduce the size of the SVG fall-back images,
which are
currently about 50% larger than the (low-resolution) PNGs.
I think this only holds for smaller equations. For more complex
equations it
seem to me that minified+zip'ed SVGs are the same size (or smaller)
than the
PNG.
@physikerwelt do you have data on that by any chance?
Yes. I'm currenty in the process of summarizing the data. Recently
LaTeXML added SVG output. This provides even a better basis for
comparision.
we aren't minifying yet. I did some tests last night (see
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72547), which suggest
that we
can reduce the size of small SVG formulas by about 25-30% with
minification.
This looks pretty straightforward to add to mathoid.
Yes we should defintly do that. I do not see any reason for not doing
that.
As for further optimizations, you could drop the paths entirely and
point
the use elements to external files, i.e., use global svg data like
webfonts. This then raises a different question of balancing: is it
worth
loading such fonts/spritemaps when there's only a few equations in
the page?
For most page views this would likely increase the size, unless those
maps
only had the glyphs needed in a certain page. Which would then reduce
the
caching between pages.
I would like to keep it simple. I think this would additional
complexity and make debugging much harder.
Just for the record since we've rejected it for other reasons, inline
SVGs
would also reduce the number of http requests and would resolve the
clipping
and baseline problems we've seen in the past.
It's a trade-off between making everybody download both MathML *and* SVG
(which is larger), or only doing so where MathML is not supported. There
is
also a complexity trade-off between simple stand-alone fall-back images,
and
the maintenance of a global per-page glyph table. Overall, the size of
math
fallbacks is moderate compared to a page with photos, and it looks like
we
can get the size close to that of low-resolution PNG images with
minification. To me, this seems to be a good compromise for now, and we
can
always re-evaluate later.
Gabriel
We could benchmark a solution that replaces MathML with inline SVG via
Javascript as well. However, this would not reduce the number of HTTP
requests and would not help people without javascript.
While I can understand that the SVG images were orginally optimized of
inline use, I do not see any principal reason why inline SVG's are
better.
Peter, can you explain that?
Best
Moritz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Ting
Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may need to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Practical question:
The template:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia}}
instead)
Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
(including all translations)
Romaine
2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:
Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Ting
Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Good point. That line can now be deleted from the trademark template.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
Practical question:
The template:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia}}
instead)
Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
(including all translations)
Romaine
2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:
Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Ting
Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2]
and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may
need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives
Minutes and slides from Thursday's quarterly review meeting of the Foundation's Multimedia team are now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Multimedia/October_2014 . On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, to increase accountability and create more opportunities for course corrections and resourcing adjustments as necessary, Sue's asked me and Howie Fung to set up a quarterly project evaluation process, starting with our highest priority initiatives. These are, according to Sue's narrowing focus recommendations which were approved by the Board [1]: - Visual Editor - Mobile (mobile contributions + Wikipedia Zero) - Editor Engagement (also known as the E2 and E3 teams) - Funds Dissemination Committe and expanded grant-making capacity I'm proposing the following initial schedule: January: - Editor Engagement Experiments February: - Visual Editor - Mobile (Contribs + Zero) March: - Editor Engagement Features (Echo, Flow projects) - Funds Dissemination Committee We’ll try doing this on the same day or adjacent to the monthly metrics meetings [2], since the team(s) will give a presentation on their recent progress, which will help set some context that would otherwise need to be covered in the quarterly review itself. This will also create open opportunities for feedback and questions. My goal is to do this in a manner where even though the quarterly review meetings themselves are internal, the outcomes are captured as meeting minutes and shared publicly, which is why I'm starting this discussion on a public list as well. I've created a wiki page here which we can use to discuss the concept further: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews The internal review will, at minimum, include: Sue Gardner myself Howie Fung Team members and relevant director(s) Designated minute-taker So for example, for Visual Editor, the review team would be the Visual Editor / Parsoid teams, Sue, me, Howie, Terry, and a minute-taker. I imagine the structure of the review roughly as follows, with a duration of about 2 1/2 hours divided into 25-30 minute blocks: - Brief team intro and recap of team's activities through the quarter, compared with goals - Drill into goals and targets: Did we achieve what we said we would? - Review of challenges, blockers and successes - Discussion of proposed changes (e.g. resourcing, targets) and other action items - Buffer time, debriefing Once again, the primary purpose of these reviews is to create improved structures for internal accountability, escalation points in cases where serious changes are necessary, and transparency to the world. In addition to these priority initiatives, my recommendation would be to conduct quarterly reviews for any activity that requires more than a set amount of resources (people/dollars). These additional reviews may however be conducted in a more lightweight manner and internally to the departments. We’re slowly getting into that habit in engineering. As we pilot this process, the format of the high priority reviews can help inform and support reviews across the organization. Feedback and questions are appreciated. All best, Erik [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Vote:Narrowing_Focus [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos
Hi yana, would you be so kind to explain why wmf did not opt for the newest
commons license, cc-by-sa 4.0?
Rupert
On Oct 28, 2014 9:06 PM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Good point. That line can now be deleted from the trademark template.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
Practical question:
The template:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia}}
instead)
Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
(including all translations)
Romaine
2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:
Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Ting
Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2]
and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may
need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Done!
Thanks!
Romaine
2014-10-28 21:05 GMT+01:00 Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org:
Good point. That line can now be deleted from the trademark template.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
Practical question:
The template:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia}}
instead)
Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
(including all translations)
Romaine
2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:
Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Ting
Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2]
and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may
need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos
Hi, Rupert-
I think the movement as a whole should try to move consistently to 4.0 at
roughly the same time. It is confusing to re-users to have to juggle
different terms for different pieces of Wikimedia content.[1] So Foundation
content will generally remain 3.0 until we make 4.0 the default license
across the projects. (I'm aware that some projects have taken this jump on
the own, but where I've seen this, I've made similar points - for example
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiriesdiff=prevoldid=622093759
.)
WMF Legal plans to launch a movement-wide 4.0 discussion when CC has issued
a solid number of translations, ideally in our largest languages. I
understand the first few translations will be published in the next few
weeks, and there is a schedule of upcoming translations on CC's wiki
https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Legal_Tools_Translation#4.0[2].
Realistically,
given the holidays, and the lag for large projects, this likely means that
discussion will happen early in 2015.
Hope that helps-
Luis
[1] I'm well aware we already have a huge problem with this, but I don't
want it to get worse. :)
[2] These are updated by the translation teams, not CC itself, so they may
not be up-to-date/accurate.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:00 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi yana, would you be so kind to explain why wmf did not opt for the newest
commons license, cc-by-sa 4.0?
Rupert
On Oct 28, 2014 9:06 PM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Good point. That line can now be deleted from the trademark template.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
Practical question:
The template:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia}}
instead)
Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
(including all translations)
Romaine
2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:
Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Ting
Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2]
and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may
need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Yana Welinder wrote: I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/ Hi. I found this blog post pretty confusing. It is not obvious to me which logos we're talking about specifically. We have many logos on Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Copyright_by_Wikimedia has over 4,000 files in it) and while the blog post mentions an extensive review of their copyright status, it's completely unclear to me which specific logos were part of this review. Was this a public review? Are there notes on a wiki somewhere? My best guess is that we're only talking about the images listed here: https://www.wikimedia.org/, though this guess may be wildly inaccurate. The blog post also includes https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ThreeCircles.svg, but I'm honestly not sure why given that the post is about Wikimedia logos and this... isn't a Wikimedia logo, as far as I'm aware. This image's only use seems to be on a silly Meta-Wiki page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Red,_green,_and_blue. As a long-time Wikimedian, I read this blog post and wasn't really sure what was being discussed. I have difficulty imagining that members of the general public fared much better. If the takeaway of this post was that the Wikipedia logo is now released under a free license, I think that message got lost. Lastly, I'm curious how this blog post aligns with a file deletion that took place a week prior. File:Wikipedia puzzle globe 3D render.zip was deleted from wikimediafoundation.org on October 17, 2014 with the reason Trademark - we have copies if needed. I found this deletion troubling given that I'm almost certain that this file was the subject of contentious debate for years prior to finally being published. The May 2013 upload log entries state that the files are from May 2009. The sudden unexplained deletion of a piece of Wikipedia's history leaves me concerned. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Is Emerging as Trusted Internet Source for Information on Ebola
The same article was just forwarded to me by a US-based academic who's been very sceptical of Wikipedia. Felt a tinge of pride. Sent her back the Open Medicine peer-reviewed Wikipedia article on dengue fever, posted to this list earlier. Congratulations, Bishakha On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:07 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: MZMcBride wrote: http://nyti.ms/1rHy4fK Wikipedia Is Emerging as Trusted Internet Source for Information on Ebola Noam Cohen October 26, 2014 The New York Times Neat! (And a bit terrifying.) MZMcBride Should be fun to remember -- in addition to the poorly honored WP:NOTNEWS -- other language sisters, and do some proper statistics, as EN.WP ≠ WP... I get your point, Svetlana, but WP:NOTNEWS is honored in the article: Others wonder why it includes so little discussion about the current outbreak. It is covered in a separate article. The Times piece highlights the article about the disease itself. As for EN.WP ≠ WP , the article is aimed at English-language audience, so it's natural that it's just Wikipedia. I rarely see a press headline that denotes the language edition of Wikipedia if the article deals with the Wikipedia in the language of the piece. All-in-all, good work by [English Wikipedia] Wikiproject Medicine as usual :) -- ~Keegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan This is my personal email address. Everything sent from this email address is in a personal capacity. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
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