Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WikiProject X
2015-01-14 17:04 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, When Wikipedia does not have articles on a subject, what do you do... Same for Wikidata.. So again, how is Wikidata not there yet ? It just doesn't have the information required, apparently. It also might not have the structure required; I found the process for adding properties is slow (although not that painful) Let's not turn Wikidata into the proverbial hammer. Let the grantees organize themselves as they see fit, and if the result is worthy, I'm sure they will also find a way to integrate it with Wikidata. Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WikiProject X
Hoi, When Wikipedia does not have articles on a subject, what do you do... Same for Wikidata.. So again, how is Wikidata not there yet ? Thanks, GerardM On 14 January 2015 at 15:12, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 12:33, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, How is Wikidata not here yet ? Thanks, GerardM Well at the london meetup we tried poking at it with regards to coins. It tends not to be aware when things are currency units (pounds crown florin) hasn't heard of the likes of long cross pennies let alone individual coin mintings (the exception presumably being ones notable enough to have Wikipedia articles). It does of course know a fair bit about bitcoin. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WikiProject X
By the way Q5869386 is really rather funny. For some reason your bots think that [[History of the English penny (1066–1154)]] is equivalent to [[History of the English penny]]. -- geni I am now slightly more educated than I was this morning on the topic of the history of English currency. Did everyone else know that there are actually at least 8 distinct periods of penny? Naturally enough, there's a series of [English] Wikipedia articles about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Penny_(English_coin)#Pennies_by_period And - in a desperate attempt to bring this thread BACK TO THE POINT - they, and over 3,500 other articles, are coordinated by Wikiproject Numismatics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Numismatics Because if its clear scope, detailed academic resources, dedicated interest-group, and relatively small wiki-community size, this is the kind of wikiproject that would probably be a fantastic candidate for testing some of the ideas worked on with 'Wikiproject X'. Wikiprojects that want to sign up as testers can go here: https://en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X/Pilots Wikiprojects are a very important and long-standing part of the community infrastructure of Wikipedias - and (IMHO) hold the key to helping support new editors through the crucial first 20 newbie edits. However I don't believe they have EVER received any specific attention about how they can be supported more (by the WMF, Chapters, with grants, software features, bugs fixed, etc etc). This is a fantastic opportunity to support on-wiki collaboration. If anyone has ideas for how Wikiprojects can be improved. List them here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_X To subscribe to the newsletter, go here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X/Newsletter p.s. Yes, this is English-wikipedia focused because the volunteer who applied for the grant is an English-speaker... It wouldn't be very useful for the WMF to fund grants for volunteers to work in languages that they don't understand... ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Reminder] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on 14 January 2015 (Wednesday) at 1600 UTC
Hello, A reminder that the Language Engineering office hour will be happening later today at 1600UTC on #wikimedia-office. The original announcement can be found in the section below. We will be posting the logs at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Office_hour_logs Thanks Runa -- Forwarded message -- From: Runa Bhattacharjee rbhattachar...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:48 AM Subject: [x-post] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on 14 January 2015 (Wednesday) at 1600 UTC To: MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia GLAM collaboration [Public] g...@lists.wikimedia.org [x-posted announcement] Hello, Language Engineering team of the Wikimedia Foundation is hosting the next IRC office hour on January 14, 2015 (Wednesday) at 1600 UTC on #wikimedia-office . We will be taking questions and discussing about our ongoing projects. You may have also read our recent announcement about making Content Translation available very soon as a beta feature[1] on a few Wikipedias. We will be happy to address questions you may have about this. Please see below to check local time and event details Thanks Runa [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/01/10/content-translation-beta-coming-soon http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/01/10/content-translation-beta-coming-soon/ Monthly IRC Office Hour: == # Date: January 14, 2015 (Wednesday) # Time: 1600 UTC (Check local time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150114T1600 ) # IRC channel: #wikimedia-office # Agenda: 1. Content Translation beta feature 2. Q A (Questions can be sent to me ahead of the event) -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Most obnoxious banner yet
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Megan Hernandez mhernan...@wikimedia.org wrote: We will share an update on this analysis when it is complete, which will be a part of future discussions around fundraising practices. Can we have a date please by which you will share this update? I am sorry to have to ask you this, but there have been too many cases (two of them linked in this thread) where Foundation staff promised to share something soon or when it is ready, and months or years passed without any such sharing ever happening. Thank you. Andreas ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WikiProject X
Well, yes. Was your clue the bit where it said English-language wikipedia? Wikiproject-based things are incredibly difficult to generalize because they're so dependent on project-specific nuances and setups. Wikidata will change that, I hope, but it's not there yet. On Tuesday, 13 January 2015, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Il 13/01/2015 23:24, James Hare ha scritto: (Standard apology for cross-posting.) Greetings everyone! I am pleased to announce a new project, WikiProject X, funded by a Wikimedia Foundation Individual Engagement Grant. WikiProject X's goal is to improve the experience of WikiProjects, which are subject-area (or goal-oriented) collaborative spaces on the English Wikipedia. By making WikiProjects easier to use and maintain, it will be easier to build sub-communities of like-minded people, giving editors a sense of community on a huge and daunting website like Wikipedia. This includes mechanisms for recruiting new participants and encouraging the creation of safe spaces where editors, new and experienced alike, can feel like they can participate in discussions without fear of intimidation or jargon. The project will begin with some research, both qualitative research in the form of interviews and case studies, and quantitative research based on Wikipedia’s database. Our focus will be on WikiProjects that have been successful in organizing editors, and learning more about what makes them work. Based on this research, we will develop new tools and interfaces that make WikiProjects easier to use and easier to maintain. Please note that this is an opt-in program for WikiProjects; no WikiProject will be required to make changes. I would like to invite the community to check out our new page on Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X (shortcut WP:WPX). There, you can share your experiences with WikiProjects and sign up to become a pilot tester. Community participation is crucial for the success of this project, and the more voices we hear, the better. If you want to sign up for more updates, sign up for our newsletter here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X/Newsletter. Please let me know if you have any questions. I am very much looking forward to working with everyone on making this project succeed! Cheers, James Hare Project Manager, WikiProject X https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe Sounds like just another enwiki-specific thing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Sent from my mobile computing device of Lovecraftian complexity and horror. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WikiProject X
Hoi, How is Wikidata not here yet ? Thanks, GerardM On 14 January 2015 at 02:01, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: Well, yes. Was your clue the bit where it said English-language wikipedia? Wikiproject-based things are incredibly difficult to generalize because they're so dependent on project-specific nuances and setups. Wikidata will change that, I hope, but it's not there yet. On Tuesday, 13 January 2015, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Il 13/01/2015 23:24, James Hare ha scritto: (Standard apology for cross-posting.) Greetings everyone! I am pleased to announce a new project, WikiProject X, funded by a Wikimedia Foundation Individual Engagement Grant. WikiProject X's goal is to improve the experience of WikiProjects, which are subject-area (or goal-oriented) collaborative spaces on the English Wikipedia. By making WikiProjects easier to use and maintain, it will be easier to build sub-communities of like-minded people, giving editors a sense of community on a huge and daunting website like Wikipedia. This includes mechanisms for recruiting new participants and encouraging the creation of safe spaces where editors, new and experienced alike, can feel like they can participate in discussions without fear of intimidation or jargon. The project will begin with some research, both qualitative research in the form of interviews and case studies, and quantitative research based on Wikipedia’s database. Our focus will be on WikiProjects that have been successful in organizing editors, and learning more about what makes them work. Based on this research, we will develop new tools and interfaces that make WikiProjects easier to use and easier to maintain. Please note that this is an opt-in program for WikiProjects; no WikiProject will be required to make changes. I would like to invite the community to check out our new page on Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X (shortcut WP:WPX). There, you can share your experiences with WikiProjects and sign up to become a pilot tester. Community participation is crucial for the success of this project, and the more voices we hear, the better. If you want to sign up for more updates, sign up for our newsletter here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X/Newsletter. Please let me know if you have any questions. I am very much looking forward to working with everyone on making this project succeed! Cheers, James Hare Project Manager, WikiProject X https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe Sounds like just another enwiki-specific thing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Sent from my mobile computing device of Lovecraftian complexity and horror. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WikiProject X
On 14 January 2015 at 12:33, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, How is Wikidata not here yet ? Thanks, GerardM Well at the london meetup we tried poking at it with regards to coins. It tends not to be aware when things are currency units (pounds crown florin) hasn't heard of the likes of long cross pennies let alone individual coin mintings (the exception presumably being ones notable enough to have Wikipedia articles). It does of course know a fair bit about bitcoin. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
