Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

[Pine W]

Hi Micru,

It sounds to me like there are a few different topics that are on your
mind. I'm wondering if it might help to clarify the situation if we could
meet on Hangouts for some near-real-time communication. I'd be glad to try
to find a time to meet with you. I'll be coming and going from the Internet
for the next few hours, and if you happen to be online then I'd be glad to
talk with you on Hangouts for a voice conversation when we're both
available. Please feel free to send me a text message on Hangouts if you're
available and would be interested in having a conversation there. I may not
respond immediately, but I should respond within half an hour of receiving
your message.

Personally, I am looking forward to seeing the new WMF website, and I
generally have a positive view of Ed Erhart. The topic of where certain
publications should be posted is a complicated one, and I would like to
hear your perspective.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Project Grants program will fund 11 community-led projects

[Maria Cruz]

Hi everyone,
just a small correction, the showcase is on Thursday, June 14th. Apologies
for the mistake.
Hope to see many of you there!

Have a good weekend,

María



*María Cruz * \\  Communications and Outreach project manager, L&E
Team \\ Wikimedia
Foundation, Inc.
mc...@wikimedia.org  |  Twitter:  @marianarra_


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Maria Cruz  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> As you may know, we recently funded 11 projects through Wikimedia
> Foundation Project Grants program, initiatives that span from software
> development, to online organizing, and offline outreach. In an effort to
> increase awareness about these projects, and foster collaboration and
> participation, we are hosting the first ever Wikimedia Project Showcase
> this coming Thursday, June 13, at 9 am PST (1600 UTC).
>
> You can join the showcase in one of two ways:
>
>- Join the video conference room using BlueJeans:
>https://bluejeans.com/570420589 
>- watch the showcase online via Youtube following this link:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFjo8wg4wKw
>
>
> Each participant will have 5 minutes to present about their project, share
> why it matters, and how others can get involved. If you would like to
> contribute your skills to a project, help out, or simply learn more about
> the awesome work our communities are doing, please join us at the Wikimedia
> Project Showcase next Thursday!
>
>
> Looking forward to seeing many of you there,
>
>
> María and Marti
>
> *María Cruz * \\  Communications and Outreach project manager, L&E Team \\
>  Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
> mc...@wikimedia.org  |  Twitter:  @marianarra_
> 
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 4:50 AM, YI SHENG WANG 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Marti. I am glad to hear that there are so many good projects
>> was recommended by the committee in this round. I appreciate all the
>> efforts made by the grantee, members of the committee, and staffs. All of
>> you have done a very good job!
>>
>> Aotfs2013
>> Member, Project Grants Committee
>>
>>
>> ‌
>> [image: Mailtrack]
>> > utm_campaign=signaturevirality3&>
>> Sender
>> notified by
>> Mailtrack
>> > utm_campaign=signaturevirality3&>
>>
>> Marti Johnson  於 2018年5月19日 週六 上午4:05寫道：
>>
>> > *Hi all,In the latest round of Project Grants, the committee has
>> > recommended 11 projects for a total of $354,654 in funding.  We
>> received 24
>> > proposals for review.  Here’s what we’re funding. [1]Software: four
>> > projects funded - ScienceSource
>> > : Medical
>> > knowledge is accessed over 2 billion times a year on Wikimedia projects,
>> > but only a relatively small number of editors create and maintain it.
>> > ScienceSource seeks to build an algorithm that will model editor
>> > decision-making to identify reliable biomedical reference sources. By
>> using
>> > machine automation to sift through large volumes of reference materials,
>> > ScienceSource will support volunteers to do their work faster and more
>> > effectively.  [2] - WikiProject X
>> > :
>> > WikiProject X seeks to create better tools for Wikipedian editors
>> > collaborating around common interest areas.  Previously funded
>> >  twice
>> through
>> > Individual Engagement Grants, the project piloted new features for
>> several
>> > WikiProjects, including Women in Red
>> > .
>> This
>> > grant will replace the multiple disparate modules of WikiProject X with
>> a
>> > new extension, CollaborationKit.  This improvement will offer editors a
>> > more seamless, adaptable interface to for productive collaboration.
>> > [3][4][5]. - Timeless: Post-deployment support
>> > <
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Isarra/Timele
>> ss:_Post-deployment_support
>> > >:
>> >  Timeless is a new volunteer-developed skin designed for editors.  It
>> was
>> > deployed across all Wikimedia projects in 2017, but lacked sufficient
>> > support to address bugs.  This grant will support general improvements
>> to
>> > make Timeless into a more stable and user-friendly product. [6] -
>> > WikidataJS :
>> >  This grant will enable the JavaScript developer community to produce
>> fast,
>> > high quality tools so others can better access information on Wikidata.
>> The
>> > project builds on Maxlath
>> > ’s previous
>> > creation of several Wikidata-related tools:  wikidata-sdk,
>> wikidata-edit,
>> > wikidata-cli, wikidata-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

[Samuel Klein]

Hi David!  As always, I appreciate your wisdom and thoughtfulness. I don't
understand the issue at hand, however. A change from blog.wm.org to
blog.wmf.org? Something else?

We do surely need to help individual metapedians grow, mentor, become more
effective over time, without becoming overwhelmed.

Warmly, SJ

On Fri 8 Jun, 2018, 6:26 PM David Cuenca Tudela,  wrote:

> Since Ed Erhart didn't honor my request of posting in this mailing lists to
> discuss the plans to appropriate the Wikimedia Blog for the Wikimedia
> Foundation [1] (although I would have preferred that he had done it himself
> as he is the visible face behind this change, and therefore the burden of
> proof is on him to prove to the community that this is the right change), I
> am posting to this list with the hope that it can be discussed with people
> for whom these things matter.
>
> The Wikimedia Blog [2] has the title "News from Wikipedia and the Wikimedia
> movement", and in case you don't know it it is run by the WMF [3]. This
> blog has been operating under the existing URL for many years, and I
> believe there was a general satisfaction with the way is run, the quality
> of the stories, the amount, etc. However, as I mentioned in the Phabricator
> ticket [1] I find the idea of moving the blog to the Wikimedia Foundation
> site not adequate and not in the spirit of the Wikimedia movement.
>
> I do not find the intention to move the blog to the WMF site to be in the
> spirit of the Wikimedia movement because our movement is a diverse field
> that is based on the idea of "commons" [4], and I feel that the Wikimedia
> Blog is one of those commons. As I see it now the blog sits in the middle
> of the community, and although it is run by the WMF, it can be seen as a
> shared space between the WMF, the affiliates, and the community. By moving
> the blog to the WMF site, the blog would lose its status as a commons and
> it would become "the blog of the WMF". I think that if the WMF wants a
> blog, they can create a new one, but they should leave the existing blog as
> it is, as a shared space.
>
> Intentions like this makes me think that in the WMF there is not enough
> "wisdom", that strange quality that I am trying to make important in our
> movement without much success [5]. This lack of wisdom is not only present
> in the WMF, also in our movement I percieve, if not lack of wisdom, at
> least lack of empathy [6]. It saddens me and it makes me stressed.
>
> Issues like this one about the blog make me think that the movement needs
> dedicated people that cultivate wisdom and encyclopedic knowledge about the
> movement (I might have the former, but not the later), and that we put the
> qualities of those people to the service of our community. I feel like a
> little kid who wants to play a nice game with his friends, and then he sees
> a big bulldozer coming to destroy his playing field. If it is not clear for
> you, the "bulldozer" is how I see the "corporate WMF" coming to destroy the
> soul of what I love most.
>
> Tracking these kind of "behind the scenes" events takes me too much time. I
> feel that I have reached more than the maximum of my capacity as a
> "volunteer" (ha, what a joke of a word), and that I would risk losing my
> current job if I am caught again participating in the Wikimedia projects
> during my work hours, which I do without restrain. Not only that, it also
> takes most of my waking time, specially because the movement has grown so
> big that I feel overwhelmed in my capacity as metapedian [7]. I also feel
> that it has started affecting my mental health. I do not know if I am the
> only one, but as it is right now contributing to the Wikimedia projects is
> *very* stressful, and since it is my main activity, I don't have time to
> wind down, and since I do it as a "volunteer", I do not have free time to
> recover. I also fear that if I would not do it myself nobody else would do
> it, and if nobody would take their individual responsibility seriously,
> then nobody would care for the good things in this world, and if nobody
> would take care of the good things in this world, then we better start
> saying goodbye to it RIGHT NOW, because the world is a fucking mess and
> nobody is standing up to say the things as they are, or as they should be.
>
> I spent 14 years of my life in the Wikimedia projects with various degrees
> of involvement, working for free, and receiving compensation [8], and I
> must say that the quality of my work has been exactly the same, my
> responsability has been exactly the same, and it never mattered if I hold a
> position of "power" or not, I always acted exactly the same, the only thing
> that has changed is my "awareness", and my capacity to listen, which allows
> me to have more effective conversations that build real consensus [9]. I
> say all that because many people in this movement seem to have an issue
> with money. Get over it guys. It is just a tool, like a computer, like a
>

[Wikimedia-l] Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

[David Cuenca Tudela]

Since Ed Erhart didn't honor my request of posting in this mailing lists to
discuss the plans to appropriate the Wikimedia Blog for the Wikimedia
Foundation [1] (although I would have preferred that he had done it himself
as he is the visible face behind this change, and therefore the burden of
proof is on him to prove to the community that this is the right change), I
am posting to this list with the hope that it can be discussed with people
for whom these things matter.

The Wikimedia Blog [2] has the title "News from Wikipedia and the Wikimedia
movement", and in case you don't know it it is run by the WMF [3]. This
blog has been operating under the existing URL for many years, and I
believe there was a general satisfaction with the way is run, the quality
of the stories, the amount, etc. However, as I mentioned in the Phabricator
ticket [1] I find the idea of moving the blog to the Wikimedia Foundation
site not adequate and not in the spirit of the Wikimedia movement.

I do not find the intention to move the blog to the WMF site to be in the
spirit of the Wikimedia movement because our movement is a diverse field
that is based on the idea of "commons" [4], and I feel that the Wikimedia
Blog is one of those commons. As I see it now the blog sits in the middle
of the community, and although it is run by the WMF, it can be seen as a
shared space between the WMF, the affiliates, and the community. By moving
the blog to the WMF site, the blog would lose its status as a commons and
it would become "the blog of the WMF". I think that if the WMF wants a
blog, they can create a new one, but they should leave the existing blog as
it is, as a shared space.

Intentions like this makes me think that in the WMF there is not enough
"wisdom", that strange quality that I am trying to make important in our
movement without much success [5]. This lack of wisdom is not only present
in the WMF, also in our movement I percieve, if not lack of wisdom, at
least lack of empathy [6]. It saddens me and it makes me stressed.

Issues like this one about the blog make me think that the movement needs
dedicated people that cultivate wisdom and encyclopedic knowledge about the
movement (I might have the former, but not the later), and that we put the
qualities of those people to the service of our community. I feel like a
little kid who wants to play a nice game with his friends, and then he sees
a big bulldozer coming to destroy his playing field. If it is not clear for
you, the "bulldozer" is how I see the "corporate WMF" coming to destroy the
soul of what I love most.

Tracking these kind of "behind the scenes" events takes me too much time. I
feel that I have reached more than the maximum of my capacity as a
"volunteer" (ha, what a joke of a word), and that I would risk losing my
current job if I am caught again participating in the Wikimedia projects
during my work hours, which I do without restrain. Not only that, it also
takes most of my waking time, specially because the movement has grown so
big that I feel overwhelmed in my capacity as metapedian [7]. I also feel
that it has started affecting my mental health. I do not know if I am the
only one, but as it is right now contributing to the Wikimedia projects is
*very* stressful, and since it is my main activity, I don't have time to
wind down, and since I do it as a "volunteer", I do not have free time to
recover. I also fear that if I would not do it myself nobody else would do
it, and if nobody would take their individual responsibility seriously,
then nobody would care for the good things in this world, and if nobody
would take care of the good things in this world, then we better start
saying goodbye to it RIGHT NOW, because the world is a fucking mess and
nobody is standing up to say the things as they are, or as they should be.

I spent 14 years of my life in the Wikimedia projects with various degrees
of involvement, working for free, and receiving compensation [8], and I
must say that the quality of my work has been exactly the same, my
responsability has been exactly the same, and it never mattered if I hold a
position of "power" or not, I always acted exactly the same, the only thing
that has changed is my "awareness", and my capacity to listen, which allows
me to have more effective conversations that build real consensus [9]. I
say all that because many people in this movement seem to have an issue
with money. Get over it guys. It is just a tool, like a computer, like a
hammer, like whatever tool you want to imagine. You take it, you use it,
and then you forget about it. That is the way it should be done. All the
rest is stories that people have in their heads that are totally wrong and
misinformed.

To go back to the topic of the Wikimedia Blog, I believe that, as one above
the average wise people said, "the best that can come from it is that
nothing happens".
I don't think it is done with bad intentions. I trust Ed as a reputable
member of the community, but I do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Stats re new users per gender per year in Hebrew Wikipedia

[Asaf Bartov]

(A Quarry query, not Wikidata query, in this case.)

And the table doesn't come through on the mailing list, so here's a
screenshot:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:User_gender_on_Hebrew_Wikipedia,_by_year,_through_May_2018.png


Cheers,

A.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 11:50 PM Shani Evenstein 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> This is something that made me happy this weekend and am happy to share --
> check out these stats from Hebrew Wikipedia regarding new users, per
> gender, per year, that Asaf generated via a WD query.
>
> You might notice a jump in numbers of female users in 2011, and then again
> in 2013 and 2015. I don't presume to be able to explain everything in the
> table below, but I'd like to think this is because of Wikimedia Israel's
> outreach efforts, which I'm proud to be part of since 2011.
> Here are some example milestones that I know of know of, which might
> explain these stats. Note they are a small part of numerous, varied and
> diverse outreach projects that WM-IL has been running for years now in
> GLAM, EDU, WikiWomen, WLM etc.  --
> * 2011 is when we started GLAMing and doing Education work more seriously.
> * 2013 is when my WikiMed academic course started.
> * 2015 is when my second Wiki academic course opened, and also when
> WikiWomen started to work in an organized manner in Israel.
>
> While we still have much work to do in shrinking the gender gap and being
> really inclusive, it's nice to be reminded that our work *does* matter and
> has actual impact on the voices that get to be heard in our community. So
> to all those running workshops, GLAM / EDU projects, contests etc -- keep
> up the good work, because your work matters. These numbers are merely one
> way of demonstrating that.
>
> A lovely weekend, everyone!
>
> Shani Evenstein Sigalov
> Volunteer, WM-IL.
>
>
> Stats generated by this Quarry query:
> https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/27458
> Year Male Female Unspecified % female % specified
> 2004 --- --- --- ---
> 2005 0 1 42 100.00 2.33
> 2006 201 21 3698 9.46 5.66
> 2007 180 22 5451 10.89 3.57
> 2008 214 33 5347 13.36 4.42
> 2009 503 107 5432 17.54 10.10
> 2010 455 96 5392 17.42 9.27
> 2011 393 105 5259 21.08 8.65
> 2012 294 143 5602 32.72 7.24
> 2013 260 220 5794 45.83 7.65
> 2014 258 237 7035 47.88 6.57
> 2015 214 239 6327 52.76 6.68
> 2016 169 254 5835 60.05 6.76
> 2017 143 175 6824 55.03 4.45
> 2018 42 49 3074 53.85 2.88
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[Wikimedia-l] Stats re new users per gender per year in Hebrew Wikipedia

[Shani Evenstein]

Hello all,

This is something that made me happy this weekend and am happy to share --
check out these stats from Hebrew Wikipedia regarding new users, per
gender, per year, that Asaf generated via a WD query.

You might notice a jump in numbers of female users in 2011, and then again
in 2013 and 2015. I don't presume to be able to explain everything in the
table below, but I'd like to think this is because of Wikimedia Israel's
outreach efforts, which I'm proud to be part of since 2011.
Here are some example milestones that I know of know of, which might
explain these stats. Note they are a small part of numerous, varied and
diverse outreach projects that WM-IL has been running for years now in
GLAM, EDU, WikiWomen, WLM etc.  --
* 2011 is when we started GLAMing and doing Education work more seriously.
* 2013 is when my WikiMed academic course started.
* 2015 is when my second Wiki academic course opened, and also when
WikiWomen started to work in an organized manner in Israel.

While we still have much work to do in shrinking the gender gap and being
really inclusive, it's nice to be reminded that our work *does* matter and
has actual impact on the voices that get to be heard in our community. So
to all those running workshops, GLAM / EDU projects, contests etc -- keep
up the good work, because your work matters. These numbers are merely one
way of demonstrating that.

A lovely weekend, everyone!

Shani Evenstein Sigalov
Volunteer, WM-IL.


Stats generated by this Quarry query: https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/27458
Year Male Female Unspecified % female % specified
2004 --- --- --- ---
2005 0 1 42 100.00 2.33
2006 201 21 3698 9.46 5.66
2007 180 22 5451 10.89 3.57
2008 214 33 5347 13.36 4.42
2009 503 107 5432 17.54 10.10
2010 455 96 5392 17.42 9.27
2011 393 105 5259 21.08 8.65
2012 294 143 5602 32.72 7.24
2013 260 220 5794 45.83 7.65
2014 258 237 7035 47.88 6.57
2015 214 239 6327 52.76 6.68
2016 169 254 5835 60.05 6.76
2017 143 175 6824 55.03 4.45
2018 42 49 3074 53.85 2.88
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