Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

[Thomas Shafee]

Hi Amirouche,

It's definitely possible to write articles in WikiJournals without a PhD (
example ). External peer reviewers
are invited in the same way whether the author is some top prof or an
undergrad.

I definitely think that WikiJournal articles can be useful for Wikiversity
courses (example , example
). Bu I think that the two projects
have different technical needs.

As far as I know, Wikiversity is currently not accredited in any country -
a process usually tightly regulated by governments (Australia example
). Wikiversity is therefore more like P2PU
 than Open University
, in that it can offer courses and
provide completion badges, but not yet award formal PhDs. I don't now
whether there are any users working on it, but accreditation for
Wikiversity courses would probably be most easily achieved by partnering
with established accredited universities, a bit like coursera
, but that would still be a pretty major
project.

Hope that is useful info!
All the best,
Thomas

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 15:39, Amirouche Boubekki <
amirouche.boube...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> I am new to the mailing list and more generaly on wikipedia as contributor
> and as student in wikiversity.
>
> I did not know about WikiJournals as part of Wikiversity. My only remark
> will be that the wikiveristy
> PhD program is in poor shape. I was lost in the various tools I had to use
> and broken links.
> Most if not all conversation are old-ish and doesn't say the PhD program is
> active or working
> at all. (French wikiveristy is in much better shape).
>
> I am certain that the implementation of wikijournal as sister project will
> have more impact for WikiJournal.
> My point is with a better english wikiversity, both could have more impact.
>
>
> I think, forking wikijournals outside wikiverity will have a bad impact on
> wikiversity.
>
> Also, is it possible to write a publication in the journal without prior
> PhD?
> Can publication in the wikijournal help obtain the wikiveristy PhD?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Amirouche ~ amz3
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to the June 2019 Wikimedia Monthly Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 27th, 18:00 UTC

[Sasha Redkina]

This meeting will be starting in 20 minutes.

Sasha Redkina
Front Office Coordinator
*The Wikimedia Foundation*
www.wikimediafoundation.org


On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 2:01 PM Sasha Redkina <
activitiesmeet...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> The next Wikimedia Monthly Activities meeting will take place tomorrow,
> Thursday, June 27th, 2019 at 18:00  UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is
> #wikimedia-office on https://webchat.freenode.net, and the meeting will
> be broadcast as a live YouTube stream:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRjrbl1J1FA
> We’ll post the video recording publicly after the meeting.
>
> Agenda
>
> Facilitator: TBA
>
>- Welcome and introduction to agenda - 2 minutes
>- Movement update - 3 minutes
>- Wikis for children - 10 minutes
>- Wikimedia 2030 movement strategy update - 15 minutes
>- Questions and discussion - 10 minutes
>- Wikilove - 5 minutes
>
>
>
> Please review the meeting's Meta-Wiki page for further information about
> the meeting and how to participate:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_monthly_activities_meetings
>
>
>
> Thank you!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Analytics] [Wikimedia Research Showcase] June 26, 2019 at 11:30 AM PST, 19:30 UTC

[Jonathan Morgan]

RhinosF1,

All talks are recorded and archived on YouTube, so the link below should
still work. Let me know if there's a problem with the archiving and I'll
see what I can do. I'm also working on getting all slides linked to from
the Showcase page on me.org, whenever possible!

It was a great series of talks this week. Hope you enjoy it! -J

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 19:04 RhinosF1 Wikipedia  wrote:

> For those that couldn't make it, Is there are summary of what was said?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> RhinosF1
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 18:58, Janna Layton  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Just a reminder that this event will be happening in about half an hour!
>> Here's the Youtube link again:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiUfpmeJG7E
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:14 AM Janna Layton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Time correction:
>>>
>>> The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed next Wednesday, June
>>> 26, at *11:30 AM PDT/18:30 UTC*.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 4:11 PM Janna Layton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed this Wednesday, June
 26, at 11:30 AM PST/19:30 UTC. We will have three presentations this
 showcase, all relating to Wikipedia blocks.

 YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiUfpmeJG7E

 As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research.
 You can also watch our past research showcases here:
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase

 This month's presentations:

 Trajectories of Blocked Community Members: Redemption, Recidivism and
 Departure

 By Jonathan Chang, Cornell University

 Community norm violations can impair constructive communication and
 collaboration online. As a defense mechanism, community moderators often
 address such transgressions by temporarily blocking the perpetrator. Such
 actions, however, come with the cost of potentially alienating community
 members. Given this tradeoff, it is essential to understand to what extent,
 and in which situations, this common moderation practice is effective in
 reinforcing community rules. In this work, we introduce a computational
 framework for studying the future behavior of blocked users on Wikipedia.
 After their block expires, they can take several distinct paths: they can
 reform and adhere to the rules, but they can also recidivate, or
 straight-out abandon the community. We reveal that these trajectories are
 tied to factors rooted both in the characteristics of the blocked
 individual and in whether they perceived the block to be fair and
 justified. Based on these insights, we formulate a series of prediction
 tasks aiming to determine which of these paths a user is likely to take
 after being blocked for their first offense, and demonstrate the
 feasibility of these new tasks. Overall, this work builds towards a more
 nuanced approach to moderation by highlighting the tradeoffs that are in
 play.


 Automatic Detection of Online Abuse in Wikipedia

 By Lane Rasberry, University of Virginia

 Researchers analyzed all English Wikipedia blocks prior to 2018 using
 machine learning. With insights gained, the researchers examined all
 English Wikipedia users who are not blocked against the identified
 characteristics of blocked users. The results were a ranked set of
 predictions of users who are not blocked, but who have a history of conduct
 similar to that of blocked users. This research and process models a system
 for the use of computing to aid human moderators in identifying conduct on
 English Wikipedia which merits a block.

 Project page:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia/Automatic_Detection_of_Online_Abuse

 Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIhdb4-hKBo


 First Insights from Partial Blocks in Wikimedia Wikis

 By Morten Warncke-Wang, Wikimedia Foundation

 The Anti-Harassment Tools team at the Wikimedia Foundation released the
 partial block feature in early 2019. Where previously blocks on Wikimedia
 wikis were sitewide (users were blocked from editing an entire wiki),
 partial blocks makes it possible to block users from editing specific pages
 and/or namespaces. The Italian Wikipedia was the first wiki to start using
 this feature, and it has since been rolled out to other wikis as well. In
 this presentation, we will look at how this feature has been used in the
 first few months since release.


 --
 Janna Layton (she, her)
 Administrative Assistant - Audiences & Technology
 Wikimedia Foundation 

>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Administrative Assistant - Audiences & Technology
>>> Wikimedia Foundation 
>>>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] อะไรที่ทำให้คุณมีความสุขในสัปดาห์นี้ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 23 June 2019)

[Roman Bustria Jr.]

Hi Pine,

ESEAP Regional Cooperation is very delighted to host Wikimania 2020 with
Wikimedia Thailand as chair of the organizing committee.

We will be converging this Saturday in Bangkok for ESEAP Strategy Summit
(Regional Salon) and also to celebrate the Wikimania announcement and
Wikimedia Thailand being a new chapter!


Butch

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 6:24 PM Amir E. Aharoni 
wrote:

> What's making me happy this week? - The surprising growth in the weekly
> number of translations into the Vietnamese language.
>
> To see numbers, go to
> https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CXStats?uselang=en , scroll to the
> second chart ("Translations to Tiếng Việt"), and click the "Per week" tab.
>
> I'm kind of curious why did it happen in Vietnamese, of all languages, and
> not, say, Slovak or Thai. As far as I can tell, there is no particular
> magic there: just several editors who are very productive at translating
> article. And maybe, just maybe, the Content Translation extension, in the
> development of which I am involved, is getting better and helps people be
> more efficient ;)
>
> (And yes, I checked, and even though I don't know Vietnamese, as far as I
> can see, the created translated articles are good, they are not too
> repetitive, and they don't use too much machine translation.)
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
> ‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 24 ביוני 2019 ב-6:36 מאת ‪Pine W‬‏ <‪wiki.p...@gmail.com
> ‬‏>:‬
>
> >  These "What's making you happy this week?" threads often mention a
> > smorgasbord of subjects. The English Wiktionary Word of the day
> > <
> >
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Word_of_the_day/Archive/2019/June
> > >
> > for June 22 was "smorgasbord". Wiktionary's definitions of that word are:
> > "1. A Swedish-style buffet comprising a variety of cold sandwiches and
> > other dishes; (by extension) any buffet with a wide selection of dishes.
> > "2. (figuratively) An abundant and diverse collection of things."
> >
> > On a related point, Commons has a smorgasbord of featured images of food
> > and drink
> > <
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_pictures/Food_and_drink
> > >
> > .
> >
> > Also on Commons, I enjoy this
> > <
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linden_trees_and_the_sky_in_Planina,_Postojna,_Slovenia.jpg
> > >
> > recent Picture of the day. The caption for the image is, "Linden trees
> and
> > the sky with clouds in Planina, Postojna, Slovenia". When I look at this
> > photo, I imagine myself laying on the ground and looking up at the sky.
> >
> > While this incident 
> > was
> > not in the Wikiverse, as someone who has spent time in server rooms I can
> > sympathize with the engineer who was sent to do a chore when almost
> > everything
> > that can go wrong, did go wrong
> > . Perhaps other
> Wikimedians
> > will appreciate the story too, especially those who support Wikimedia
> > technical products or services.
> >
> > I am grateful for some recent civil and collegial discussions among
> > Wikipedia/Wikimedia administrators regarding certain problems that we are
> > collectively interested in addressing, such as vandalism and spambots.
> >
> > Also, I am grateful to people who do maintenance or administrative tasks
> > with little expectation for rewards or thanks. My experience with these
> > people is that frequently they have humble attitudes, are idealistic, and
> > are interested in public service.
> >
> > The Wikimania Steering Committee recently recommended
> >  >
> > that Wikimania 2020 take place in Bangkok, Thailand. This Wikimania will
> be
> > supported by multiple Wikimedia affiliates in the East, Southeast Asia,
> and
> > Pacific region .
> >
> > What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
> > language.
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] อะไรที่ทำให้คุณมีความสุขในสัปดาห์นี้ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 23 June 2019)

[Amir E. Aharoni]

What's making me happy this week? - The surprising growth in the weekly
number of translations into the Vietnamese language.

To see numbers, go to
https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CXStats?uselang=en , scroll to the
second chart ("Translations to Tiếng Việt"), and click the "Per week" tab.

I'm kind of curious why did it happen in Vietnamese, of all languages, and
not, say, Slovak or Thai. As far as I can tell, there is no particular
magic there: just several editors who are very productive at translating
article. And maybe, just maybe, the Content Translation extension, in the
development of which I am involved, is getting better and helps people be
more efficient ;)

(And yes, I checked, and even though I don't know Vietnamese, as far as I
can see, the created translated articles are good, they are not too
repetitive, and they don't use too much machine translation.)

--
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬


‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 24 ביוני 2019 ב-6:36 מאת ‪Pine W‬‏ <‪wiki.p...@gmail.com
‬‏>:‬

>  These "What's making you happy this week?" threads often mention a
> smorgasbord of subjects. The English Wiktionary Word of the day
> <
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Word_of_the_day/Archive/2019/June
> >
> for June 22 was "smorgasbord". Wiktionary's definitions of that word are:
> "1. A Swedish-style buffet comprising a variety of cold sandwiches and
> other dishes; (by extension) any buffet with a wide selection of dishes.
> "2. (figuratively) An abundant and diverse collection of things."
>
> On a related point, Commons has a smorgasbord of featured images of food
> and drink
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_pictures/Food_and_drink
> >
> .
>
> Also on Commons, I enjoy this
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linden_trees_and_the_sky_in_Planina,_Postojna,_Slovenia.jpg
> >
> recent Picture of the day. The caption for the image is, "Linden trees and
> the sky with clouds in Planina, Postojna, Slovenia". When I look at this
> photo, I imagine myself laying on the ground and looking up at the sky.
>
> While this incident 
> was
> not in the Wikiverse, as someone who has spent time in server rooms I can
> sympathize with the engineer who was sent to do a chore when almost
> everything
> that can go wrong, did go wrong
> . Perhaps other Wikimedians
> will appreciate the story too, especially those who support Wikimedia
> technical products or services.
>
> I am grateful for some recent civil and collegial discussions among
> Wikipedia/Wikimedia administrators regarding certain problems that we are
> collectively interested in addressing, such as vandalism and spambots.
>
> Also, I am grateful to people who do maintenance or administrative tasks
> with little expectation for rewards or thanks. My experience with these
> people is that frequently they have humble attitudes, are idealistic, and
> are interested in public service.
>
> The Wikimania Steering Committee recently recommended
> 
> that Wikimania 2020 take place in Bangkok, Thailand. This Wikimania will be
> supported by multiple Wikimedia affiliates in the East, Southeast Asia, and
> Pacific region .
>
> What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
> language.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

[WereSpielChequers]

Hi Quim,

I have tried it out and created a calendar entry for the London meetup.

A few comments.

It isn't in the Single User Login (SUL). If I was there I wouldn't be
getting notifications from Wikimedia wikis, and if someone pinged me or
edited something I was interested in I wouldn't get pinged if I was on
another wiki.

It isn't in MediaWiki, the interface is unfamiliar and different. That
probably counts as an advantage for a small proportion of geeky types who
tend to be over-represented in software departments. But for most people it
is a disadvantage, I suspect for non English speakers the barrier is
greater, one of the reasons why I am comfortable doing the occasional edit
in many non English Wikipedias is that the look and feel of the site is
very familiar even if I don't speak the language.

At a time when the WMF and the volunteer community seem to be drifting ever
further apart, it seems perverse to replicate a whole bunch of stuff that
belongs on the meta and outreach wikis and put it somewhere outside SUL.

The wisdom of crowds is vulnerable to subdivision of those crowds. Any
crowd ceases to be a crowd after a certain amount of subdivision. With the
community now broadly stable, a more sensible strategy would be to
consolidate some things together such as outreach, meta, phabricator and
various chapter wikis, not to further divide.

At a time when at least one chapter has realised that having its own wiki
outside of SUL is a de facto barrier between them and the community that
they aspire to serve, Creating non wiki rivals to meta and outreach looks
to me as big a mistake as the WMF decision to communicate with the
community through blogs rather than the Signpost and to hive off the
interface with IT to phabricator..

There is never enough IT resource to do all the things that the community
thinks it needs. But WMF projects like this just feed the perception that
there is always budget for WMF initiatives, rarely if ever for community
ones. I'm sure the effort that went into this could have been used to
change mediawiki to reduce edit conflicts or to give the Georgian Wikipedia
an interface that allows those with Latin keyboards to type in Georgian.

Apologies if that comes across as negative, I'm sure the intention is
sensible, just that the direction of travel is illadvised.






> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Re: Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news
>   and conversations (Quim Gil)
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:46:27 +0200
> From: Quim Gil 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for
> movement news and conversations
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi, thank you for your feedback about Wikimedia Space.
>
> So far, there have been many comments focusing on _who_ has released _what_
> and _how_. Let me tell you _why_ we are proposing Wikimedia Space. People
> agreeing on _why_ can agree on the rest way easier.
>
> Wikimedia Space is all about Wikimedia growth. If you are supporting
> newcomers or you are contributing to the growth of the Wikimedia movement
> in other ways, we are very interested in your opinions, your suggestions,
> your needs. And we are especially interested in hearing from you if you are
> a promoter of movement diversity and/or part of any kind of group
> underrepresented in Wikimedia.
>
> Why Wikimedia Space, in more detail:
>
> >From the Wikimedia movement strategic direction -
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
>
> * Knowledge equity
>
>
> >From the Wikimedia Foundation medium-term plan -
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019
>
> * Grow participation globally, focusing on emerging markets
> * Thriving movement
> * Support to newcomers
> * Strong, diverse, and innovative communities that represent the World
> * Strong and empowered movement leaders and affiliates
> * Safe, secure spaces and equitable, efficient processes for all
> participants
>
> I hope this explains our _why_. About some of the points mentioned...
>
> Wikimedia Space is a proposal to the movement in the form of a prototype
> https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/what-do-mean-here-by-prototype/188/4.
> We believe it will generate interest, feedback, criticism and contributions
> in a number of ways that a text-only proposal in (say) Meta Wiki wouldn't
> achieve.
>
> For instance, while we discuss here in a black & white and text-only
> environment, more than 60 colorful users have signed up already and
> Wikimedia Space and are getting their own impressions about it.
> https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/u .
>
> Or for instance, several event organizers just signed up and added their
> event to the Wikimedia Space map, which, if you ask me, after just one day
> already looks fresh, beautiful and interesting:
>