Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apa yang membuatmu senang di minggu ini? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 18 August 2019)

2019-08-21 Thread Biyanto Rebin 
Terima kasih, Pine.


Wishes from Indonesia




Pada tanggal Kam, 22 Agt 2019 08.12, Pine W  menulis:

>  *Meta issues*
>
> * Updates regarding the GlobalFactSync project were provided in an email
> sent to Wikitech-l
>  >,
> and in a Wikimania presentation
> <
> https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Technology_outreach_%26_innovation/GlobalFactSync
> >
> with slides
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2019_Global_Fact_Sync_Talk.pdf
> >
> .
>
> * Wikimedia Indonesia published a video (Youtube link)
>  that highlights
> Wikipedia's uses for preservation and transmission of languages and
> cultures. The languages spoken in the video are Sudanese
>  and Minangkabau
> .
>
> *Content highlights*
>
> * The "Selected anniversaries" section of English Wikipedia for 16 August
> noted that the day was the anniversary of Jamaican sprinter Usain Bolt
>  setting the world record for
> the
> 100 meter sprint in 2009.
>
> *  This is a photo of one of two a 17 meter (56 foot) high sculptures named
> *Skyhooks* at the east end of Trafford Park, Greater Manchester, England
> .
> Trafford Park was the English Wikipedia Article of the Day for 18 August.
> The photo is a featured picture on Commons. I feel that the sculpture is
> thought provoking.
>
> * The English Wiktionary Word of the Day for 16 August was neroli
> , which Wiktionary defines as "More
> fully *neroli oil *or *oil of neroli*: an essential oil distilled from the
> blossoms of the bitter orange or Seville orange (*Citrus* × *aurantium*
> subsp. *amara*) used to make perfumes." The etymology is interesting: "
> Borrowed from French *néroli
> * (“neroli”), from
> Nerola, a town and comune in the Metropolitan City of Rome, Lazio, Italy.
> Marie
> Anne de La Trémoille, princesse des Ursins
> <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Anne_de_La_Tr%C3%A9moille,_princesse_des_Ursins
> >
> (1642–1722), Princess of Nerola but originally from France, is thought to
> have made neroli popular as a fragrance in her country of birth around
> 1670. The word is cognate with Italian *nerola* (obsolete), *neroli*."
>
> * I appreciated this English Wikiquote of the Day for 13 August from
> German-American philosopher Felix Adler
> : "The condition of all
> progress
> is experience. We go wrong a thousand times before we find the right path.
> We struggle, and grope, and hurt ourselves until we learn the use of
> things, and this is true of things spiritual as well as of material things.
> Pain is unavoidable, but it acquires a new and higher meaning when we
> perceive that it is the price humanity must pay for an invaluable good."
>
> *Off wiki*
>
> *The New York Times* published an opinion piece by Agnes Callard, who is an
> associate professor of philosophy at the University of Chicago, titled "Why
> Philosophers Shouldn't Sign Petitions
> ".
> In the context of reflecting on how we make decisions in the Wikiverse, I
> feel that the distinction between petitioning and arguing is a good topic
> for reflection. Hopefully in the wikiverse we make collective decisions
> that are largely based on rational consensus.
>
>
> *Closing comments*
>
>
> Translations of the subject line of this email would be appreciated on Meta
> . Thanks to
> User:Veracious  for the
> Indonesian translation.
>
> What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
> language. You are also welcome to start a WMYHTW thread next week.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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[Wikimedia-l] Apa yang membuatmu senang di minggu ini? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 18 August 2019)

2019-08-21 Thread Pine W 
 *Meta issues*

* Updates regarding the GlobalFactSync project were provided in an email
sent to Wikitech-l
,
and in a Wikimania presentation

with slides

.

* Wikimedia Indonesia published a video (Youtube link)
 that highlights
Wikipedia's uses for preservation and transmission of languages and
cultures. The languages spoken in the video are Sudanese
 and Minangkabau
.

*Content highlights*

* The "Selected anniversaries" section of English Wikipedia for 16 August
noted that the day was the anniversary of Jamaican sprinter Usain Bolt
 setting the world record for the
100 meter sprint in 2009.

*  This is a photo of one of two a 17 meter (56 foot) high sculptures named
*Skyhooks* at the east end of Trafford Park, Greater Manchester, England
.
Trafford Park was the English Wikipedia Article of the Day for 18 August.
The photo is a featured picture on Commons. I feel that the sculpture is
thought provoking.

* The English Wiktionary Word of the Day for 16 August was neroli
, which Wiktionary defines as "More
fully *neroli oil *or *oil of neroli*: an essential oil distilled from the
blossoms of the bitter orange or Seville orange (*Citrus* × *aurantium*
subsp. *amara*) used to make perfumes." The etymology is interesting: "
Borrowed from French *néroli
* (“neroli”), from
Nerola, a town and comune in the Metropolitan City of Rome, Lazio, Italy. Marie
Anne de La Trémoille, princesse des Ursins

(1642–1722), Princess of Nerola but originally from France, is thought to
have made neroli popular as a fragrance in her country of birth around
1670. The word is cognate with Italian *nerola* (obsolete), *neroli*."

* I appreciated this English Wikiquote of the Day for 13 August from
German-American philosopher Felix Adler
: "The condition of all progress
is experience. We go wrong a thousand times before we find the right path.
We struggle, and grope, and hurt ourselves until we learn the use of
things, and this is true of things spiritual as well as of material things.
Pain is unavoidable, but it acquires a new and higher meaning when we
perceive that it is the price humanity must pay for an invaluable good."

*Off wiki*

*The New York Times* published an opinion piece by Agnes Callard, who is an
associate professor of philosophy at the University of Chicago, titled "Why
Philosophers Shouldn't Sign Petitions
".
In the context of reflecting on how we make decisions in the Wikiverse, I
feel that the distinction between petitioning and arguing is a good topic
for reflection. Hopefully in the wikiverse we make collective decisions
that are largely based on rational consensus.


*Closing comments*


Translations of the subject line of this email would be appreciated on Meta
. Thanks to
User:Veracious  for the
Indonesian translation.

What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
language. You are also welcome to start a WMYHTW thread next week.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-21 Thread Yaroslav Blanter 
And this is the core problem of the whole process (which has been pointed
out by multiple people from the very beginning)

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jeff Hawke  wrote:

> Andy
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke 
> wrote:
> >
> > > the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
> > > recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
> >
> > This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step; the one
> > where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider Wikimedia
> > community.
> >
>
>  That step is not mentioned at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place
> ?
>
> Jeff
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-21 Thread Peter Southwood 
I think that is very much the point Andy is making. To be reasonably 
representative of the "Movement" the recommendations should be accepted by the 
wider community, otherwise all legitimacy falls away, and it becomes the 
political games of a clique.
Cheers
P

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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

Andy

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke  wrote:
>
> > the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
> > recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
>
> This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step; the one
> where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider Wikimedia
> community.
>

 That step is not mentioned at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place?

Jeff
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-21 Thread Jeff Hawke 
Andy

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke  wrote:
>
> > the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
> > recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
>
> This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step; the one
> where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider Wikimedia
> community.
>

 That step is not mentioned at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place?

Jeff
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