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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-05-07 Thread bustrias

Hello Everyone,

Let me suggest three things:

1. For Outreach events, campaigns, GLAM events that conduct new user training 
and editathons, the Foundation Programs Team 
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Campaigns/Foundation_Programs_Team) should 
proactively coordinate with event organizers and/or foundation grant applicants 
and offer assistance to link them with administrators to grant IP exemptions or 
account creation / event organizer rights.

2. For WMF Movement Communications Team and Foundation Product Development Team 
to conduct stakeholder discussions (end users, event organizers, active 
editors) including this mailing list, talk pages, virtual / video conferences 
and come up with a thorough document summarizing the feedbacks. We should not 
end decisions on Talk pages and mailing list alone.

3. For the technology team & tech community to come up with an update on the 18 
year old IP block policy that is target bad faith editors and balancing it with 
middle to low income communities (Africa, South and Southeast Asia, Pacific 
Islands, South America) with shared internet infrastructure such as mobile 
data/ school internet connections.

Thanks.


Kind regards,

Butch 
Southeast Asia
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

2022-05-07 Thread effe iets anders

If you want to have a discussion about the term 'diversity' in the context
of Wikimedia (I doubt it will remain limited to the board selections), it
might be helpful to start a new thread for that. The challenge at hand is
to get sufficient high quality candidates for this election that can add
value (with whatever name) to the WMF board of trustees.

Lodewijk

On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 11:38 AM H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Well, let's have a look at what they're looking for. There are some vague
> references to representation, diversity, and expertise, but if you look a
> bit closer at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Apply_to_be_a_Candidate,
> they indicate that "most beneficial for new trustees to bring"  are:
> * Organizational strategy and management
> * Enterprise-level platform technology and/or product development
> * Public policy and the law
> * Social data science, big data analysis, and machine learning
>
> I'm not going to propose a new set of criteria, other than to say if you
> really want diversity, inclusion and belonging, let people explain why they
> think they bring something of value, and let the community decide.
>
> And to hell with machine learning. People, not machines.
>
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> On Saturday, May 7th, 2022 at 2:01 AM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
>
> > How do you propose that relevant competencies be recognized, defined, or
> > assessed? Cheers, Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org]
> > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 15:52
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> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022
> > Wikimedia Foundation board elections?
> >
> > Yes. We shouldn't define people by what they're not (white, cis-gendered,
> > male, etc.). But we should also adopt an expanded conceptualization of
> > "competency" that is more inclusive. What we think of as competency has
> been
> > defined by people who found their own specific skills particularly
> important
> > (and their own race better than other people's). To be inclusive means to
> > understand and value the competencies that people bring, in stead of
> > requiring that people of colour can join as long as they also have all
> the
> > "white" competencies.
> >
> >
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> > On Friday, May 6th, 2022 at 2:59 AM, Lorenzo Losa ll...@wikimedia.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On mer, 2022-05-04 at 14:36 +, H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can we stop referring to "diverse people" please? It's offensive.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry for that.
> > >
> > > If I understand it right - and correct me if I'm wrong - you are saying
> > > that calling someone a "diverse person" is labeling that person in a
> > > bad way. This is a fair point. Diversity relates to a multitude, not to
> > > an individual.
> > > To rephrase my sentence: we need trustees who are individually skilled
> > > and experienced, forming a board that is collectively diverse - that is
> > > able to express and create space for different perspectives and ideas.
> > >
> > > Lorenzo
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

2022-05-07 Thread H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l

Well, let's have a look at what they're looking for. There are some vague 
references to representation, diversity, and expertise, but if you look a bit 
closer at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Apply_to_be_a_Candidate,
 they indicate that "most beneficial for new trustees to bring"  are:
* Organizational strategy and management
* Enterprise-level platform technology and/or product development
* Public policy and the law
* Social data science, big data analysis, and machine learning

I'm not going to propose a new set of criteria, other than to say if you really 
want diversity, inclusion and belonging, let people explain why they think they 
bring something of value, and let the community decide.

And to hell with machine learning. People, not machines.

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On Saturday, May 7th, 2022 at 2:01 AM, Peter Southwood 
 wrote:


> How do you propose that relevant competencies be recognized, defined, or
> assessed? Cheers, Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org]
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 15:52
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Cc: H4CUSEG
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022
> Wikimedia Foundation board elections?
>
> Yes. We shouldn't define people by what they're not (white, cis-gendered,
> male, etc.). But we should also adopt an expanded conceptualization of
> "competency" that is more inclusive. What we think of as competency has been
> defined by people who found their own specific skills particularly important
> (and their own race better than other people's). To be inclusive means to
> understand and value the competencies that people bring, in stead of
> requiring that people of colour can join as long as they also have all the
> "white" competencies.
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail secure email.
> --- Original Message ---
> On Friday, May 6th, 2022 at 2:59 AM, Lorenzo Losa ll...@wikimedia.org
>
> wrote:
>
> > On mer, 2022-05-04 at 14:36 +, H4CUSEG via Wikimedia-l wrote:
> >
> > > Can we stop referring to "diverse people" please? It's offensive.
> >
> > I'm sorry for that.
> >
> > If I understand it right - and correct me if I'm wrong - you are saying
> > that calling someone a "diverse person" is labeling that person in a
> > bad way. This is a fair point. Diversity relates to a multitude, not to
> > an individual.
> > To rephrase my sentence: we need trustees who are individually skilled
> > and experienced, forming a board that is collectively diverse - that is
> > able to express and create space for different perspectives and ideas.
> >
> > Lorenzo
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

2022-05-07 Thread Bence Damokos

I would hardly consider linking to the New York Times offensive. Especially
as the article can be read for free anyways, so everyone can make up their
own views of it.

For those not willing to click, I believe this was the pertinent quote from
that article:
“ “I feel it’s a medicinal word that has no emotional resonance, and this
is a really emotional issue,” she said. “It’s emotional for artists who are
women and people of color to have less value placed on our worldview.”

Better words? Inclusion, she said, or belonging. ”



Best regards,

Bence

On Sat, 7 May 2022 at 08:10, Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Linking to a subscription article does not answer my question. Some might
> consider it offensive.  Cheers, Peter
>
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> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 15:15
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> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022
> Wikimedia Foundation board elections?
>
> "I hate that word so, so much." Ava DuVernay in The New York Times, January
> 25, 2016.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/movies/ava-duvernay-on-hollywoods-inclusi
> on-problem.html?partner=IFTTT&_r=0
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> > In what way is "diverse people" offensive, and to whom? Cheers, Peter.
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: 04 May 2022 16:37
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> > Cc: H4CUSEG
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022
> > Wikimedia Foundation board elections?
> >
> > Can we stop referring to "diverse people" please? It's offensive.
> >
> > Sent with ProtonMail secure email.
> > --- Original Message ---
> > On Wednesday, May 4th, 2022 at 3:30 AM, Lorenzo Losa ll...@wikimedia.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are you considering running for the Wikimedia Foundation board
> > > elections? Are you unsure about that it entails, or whether it's the
> > > right choice?
> > > You can have a talk with a trustee (or a former trustee):
> >
> >
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Peer_sup
> > port_for_potential_candidates
> >
> > > Remember that you can submit you candidacy until May 9:
> >
> >
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Apply_to
> > _be_a_Candidate
> >
> > > We are looking forward a new round of skilled and diverse people to
> > > join the board!
> > >
> > > Lorenzo
> > >
> > > P.S.: current and recent trustees are welcomed to add their name to the
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