[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Book Creator
Hi, super interested in this topic, for WikiDonne's educational program. We just finished the 2024 course, we have 31 women biographies in *Profili di donne emiliano-romagnole*[1] written by students*. W*e wanted to create a first version of the ebook to be presented in front of school principals, other students and the partners involved, in May. At the end I download page by page as PDF and united them in an unique file. Needless to say, the formatting is horrible. The last year, for our 3 ebooks we spent more than a week to convert the three pdf in odt, format them and save again as pdf, just to have decent ebooks[2]. Solving the book creation tool inside Italian Wikibooks too would be very helpful. Camelia [1] https://it.wikibooks.org/wiki/Profili_di_donne_emiliano-romagnole [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiDonne_eBook On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 20:45 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga wrote: > That's better than nothing, but still not the best solution. The book > creator had options to download in odt format, so anyone downloading it > could edit the content. That's what teachers actually need, if we want to > be the central infrastructure of free knowledge. > > Thanks > > Galder > -- > *From:* Felipe Schenone > *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2024 5:20 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List > *Cc:* Karl Fogel > *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: The Book Creator > > Hi again, Galder! > I just "globalized" the template gadget for downloading PDFs, so now it > can be easily installed in the Basque Wikipedia if you feel like it. > See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Download_PDF for the > documentation. > Cheers! > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/AJ5ZCD6KX6EKOAAX3ZO4KS6AGMAV6A2U/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/U2ZQZPXVBE2LBKEB4D2ZB2JHUYBE7RQ6/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Book Creator
That's better than nothing, but still not the best solution. The book creator had options to download in odt format, so anyone downloading it could edit the content. That's what teachers actually need, if we want to be the central infrastructure of free knowledge. Thanks Galder From: Felipe Schenone Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 5:20 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Cc: Karl Fogel Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The Book Creator Hi again, Galder! I just "globalized" the template gadget for downloading PDFs, so now it can be easily installed in the Basque Wikipedia if you feel like it. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Download_PDF for the documentation. Cheers! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/AJ5ZCD6KX6EKOAAX3ZO4KS6AGMAV6A2U/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Book Creator
Hi again, Galder! I just "globalized" the template gadget for downloading PDFs, so now it can be easily installed in the Basque Wikipedia if you feel like it. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Download_PDF for the documentation. Cheers! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/DRKIFYGQUBMQC5YOTYUJQXCGCFVMMMAY/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 1091, Issue 1
> > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:22:11 -0700 > From: Brooke Vibber > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are > doing it wrong > > Note that a third-party web service is not ideal; in addition to the issues > of tracking and privacy, it can't work offline and likely would require > additional work to get the graphics working on mobile web, mobile apps, and > offline (kiwix etc). Integrating fully with a self-contained service that > is supported by our whole ecosystem and maintained in the future would be > desirable in the work I'd like to make sure we do on multimedia. > > -- brooke > > There are basically two strategies to allow embedding of Our World in Data graphs into wiki pages, with different strengths and weaknesses. We started with a mirror/extract of OWID hosted on WMF cloud services, which I set up starting over a year ago. The strength of this approach is that it does not send tracking or privacy information to any third party. We had hoped WMF might adopt this mirror and make it an internal site. Translation also is easier because we control the source of the graphs. The workflow is also quite easy as each page has a button to copy the text required to embed the graph so that it can be pasted into the page editor. The weakness is that extraction from OWID must be done periodically and is vulnerable to changes in code on their end, such as their rewrite to include the Explorer versions of graphs. We have now taken a second approach, which is to allow a user to decide if they are willing to visit a third party site via a popup asking for consent and then show the graph directly from OWID. It is phenomenal that both EU and ES Wikipedias have now implemented this strategy. The strength is that since OWID have developed their code to support embedding, the popup that shows the graph is quite manageable. The weakness is that we must rely on OWID themselves for translation of graphs and any questions of accessibility, though they are at the very least quite mobile capable as James Heilman said. Of course the popup strategy could easily be pointed at the mirror, which would give us the ability to handle the translation. This is more a policy question than a technical one. In terms of offline use, such as Kiwix, we planned for that with tags that tell Kiwix to use the static image instead of the interactive graph. Screen readers could also be directed to the static image as they will have difficulty managing the interactive parts of the graph. Tim Moody ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/LD64GPAHMUFAXMOLYYHIYX4JPIK4DJSE/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 22:14, James Heilman wrote: > > We have Interactive graphs from OWID working What are the accessibility implications of presenting data in this manner? How is the data available to people with a visual impairment, for instance? Has anyone done an audit, to check compliance with WCAG [1]? Or performance in screen-readers [2]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Content_Accessibility_Guidelines [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_reader -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/LZZSZNC263YLPJZXZDIOTBZ3HR5F6AL3/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
