Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email
I think Fae, that this was plain rude either. Where can I read more about this case? Vince 2014-12-23 8:56 GMT+00:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping these prawns down for good? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email
Hi Vince, You can read more at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/India_Against_Corruption_sock-meatfarm - note the sentience: Tactic as of 2014 has been to launch various claims of copyright violation, impersonation, defamation, sexual harassment, paid editing, racism, pornography, forgery, and violations of terms of use I recommend taking care to avoid being misled by accounts pretending to be established Wikimedians. Fae On 29 December 2014 at 11:28, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: I think Fae, that this was plain rude either. Where can I read more about this case? Vince 2014-12-23 8:56 GMT+00:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping these prawns down for good? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi, Ok and thanks for the links! these cabal cases are pretty interesting usually. Balazs 2014-12-29 11:41 GMT+00:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: Hi Vince, You can read more at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/India_Against_Corruption_sock-meatfarm - note the sentience: Tactic as of 2014 has been to launch various claims of copyright violation, impersonation, defamation, sexual harassment, paid editing, racism, pornography, forgery, and violations of terms of use I recommend taking care to avoid being misled by accounts pretending to be established Wikimedians. Fae On 29 December 2014 at 11:28, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: I think Fae, that this was plain rude either. Where can I read more about this case? Vince 2014-12-23 8:56 GMT+00:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping these prawns down for good? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email
May someone give a digest report on this issue. They are odd and persistent. Eternal September has come into India or something else? On Dec 23, 2014 9:56 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping these prawns down for good? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email
Attention : LILA TETRIKOV MY EMAIL ON PENDING SEXUAL HARASSMENT COMPLAINT AT LEGAL + ARBCOM, and further to some emails from WMF Gender Gap mailing list Please reply as follows 1) What action WMF has taking on penalizing on-wiki sexual harassment by WMF's user SITUSH based on my complaints to a) WMF LEGAL b) EN:ARBCOM. 2) NB: WMF's user SITUSH is now a NOTABLE online sexual harasser from news reports published as far afield as Australia and discussed on Gender Gap as a rancorous, sexist, elitist, stupidly bureaucratic mess. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-December/005181.html http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/12/14/comment-will-editing-disputes-mean-end-wikipedia 3) What action WMF has taking to ban User SITUSH who is part of a notorious MEATFARM known as Manchester Mafia which is nothing but a pack of extortionist sexist, rancorous and racist blackmailers who extort money for correcting defamatory Wikipedia articles on non-Wikipedians. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Manchester_Wikimeet_Feb_2012-5.jpg 4) Further to my public correspondence with WMF Community Advocate Patrick Early, by when is WMF prepared to either disclose real world identity of User Sitush, or else confirm that s/he is impersonating as Simon Tushingham of AON Insurance from Manchester UK as disclosed on-wiki from this account so that I may sue the user properly. 5) In the meantime by when will my Wikipedia USER account be restored by WMF as an OFFICE ACTION so that I can create and develop an English Wikipedia article on the notable newsworthy Simon Tushingham @Si.tush impersonator and his unchecked harassment of declared female editors by using culturally abusive terms like piss off, fuck off, cunt etc. with them on-wiki 6) Why a MEATFARM like the extortionist manchester mafia is tolerated by WMF, and its male sexist accounts with privacy violating CHECKUSER privileges not terminated, whereas female users are banned ? 7) Is WMF prepared to identify the MEATFARM male persons in the photographic image at point 3 ? Linda ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email
On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping these prawns down for good? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email
I have, reluctantly, turned on moderation for new subscriptions, and told mailman to e-mail the admins whenever anyone subscribes. (Subscription will still be open.) It's my intention to unmoderate—as quickly as possible—anyone who's posted a few times and established that they're doing so in good faith. I hope this will blow over soon, and everything can go back to normal. Meanwhile, I don't think the new subscriber workload is more than we (the admins) can handle. Austin On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping these prawns down for good? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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(Just to be clear, everyone already subscribed is still free to post. Only new signups going forward will be moderated by default, and only until they've demonstrated that they're not sockpuppets.) A On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: I have, reluctantly, turned on moderation for new subscriptions, and told mailman to e-mail the admins whenever anyone subscribes. (Subscription will still be open.) It's my intention to unmoderate—as quickly as possible—anyone who's posted a few times and established that they're doing so in good faith. I hope this will blow over soon, and everything can go back to normal. Meanwhile, I don't think the new subscriber workload is more than we (the admins) can handle. Austin On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 December 2014 at 08:43, Golf Today li...@golf.indiatodaylive.com wrote: Attention : LILA TETRIKOV trolling crap removed Thread hijacking is plain rude. As for Joe Jobbing Wikimedians, it is a despicable and malicious form of cyberbullying. Can't someone come up with a way of slapping these prawns down for good? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our final email
We should remember here that different chapters have different capacities when it comes to fundraising. Now I won’t question Mathias’ point on the ability of addiliates to fundraise vis-à-vis the WMF’s desire to centralize fundraising, but there is one part of the e-mail that I *will* question. Wiadomość napisana przez Mathias Damour mathias.dam...@laposte.net w dniu 20 gru 2014, o godz. 04:52: Le 19/12/2014 00:08, Liam Wyatt a écrit : This email was sent by WMF fundraising today. I'm embarrassed. Read the email first, then I'll tell you why, below. Then what ? I suggest the reasons why the WMF and Sue Gardner did struggle for years against the ability of the chapters to fundraise were bad, or at least not good enough. They were complaint about the fundraising banners and messages, I guess one of the reason to centralize fundraising was to have full control on it and be able to switch it on and off at any time in any country (such as Russia), yet I don't think that it's even desirable. Furthermore the WMF shouldn't process the Project and Event Grants and Individual Engagement Grants in the countries were there is an active chapter. And why not? I’m sorry, but not all of us are Wikimedia Deutschland or Wikimedia France or Wikimedia UK, let alone affiliates in the developed world, where you have fundraising tools at your disposal and generous government support (e.g. gift aid, 1% programs, etc.) to match that, plus large numbers of readers who would want to donate banners or not. Whether you like it or not, many affiliates—especially in the developing world and including mine (Wikimedia Philippines)—are completely dependent on the Wikimedia Foundation for their funding, and to think that the above is a solution to our problems simply because there’s money to *supposedly* go around is ludicrous. We can build fundraising capacity, but it takes time. In many cases, a *lot* of time. Don’t think that turning off the tap now and forcing affiliates in the developing world to fundraise otherwise without adequate preparation will magically make things better; I’d like to contend that they may make things much worse, and this solution is nothing short of suicide. I’m a supporter of being financially self-sustaining (and WMPH has made steps towards that, as we’ve intended to be financially self-sustaining from the get-go), but this is the wrong way to go about doing it. Thanks, Josh JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM Bachelor of Arts in Political Science Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com mailto:jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com | +63 (915) 321-7582 Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor http://about.me/josh.lim http://about.me/josh.lim ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
