[Wikimedia-l] Re: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
Hello Rafi , thanks for clarifying more about cases like this but as I have put it , it was by a mistake done by newbie who didn’t has no metapage editing links at all . to the office On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 16:18 Mrb Rafi wrote: > Hi Derrick, > > Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the > credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you > mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it > intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards > that. > > There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual > property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for > example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard > work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious > instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes > by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of > what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities, > and there is no preventive method against it. > > Best, > Rafi > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter < > ndahiroder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though >> ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did >> that was really necessary but I understand the context ) >> >> I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills >> of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal >> apology to the original author and the team receiving grants . >> >> Best regards >> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA wrote: >> >>> Forward as received >>> >>> FYI dear community member >>> >>> Abel Lifaefi Mbula >>> Free Software Dev >>> Free Culture Enthousiast >>> >>> Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send >>> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Forwarded message - >>> From: patience kavira >>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 >>> Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - >>> User:Nkunda102 >>> To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Forwarded message - >>> De : patience kavira >>> Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 >>> Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 >>> To: fdevou...@anthere.org , >>> donatien.ka...@gmail.com , >>> emmanuelle...@gmail.com , i...@wikiinafrica.org >>> >>> Cc: , < >>> african-wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org>, < >>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> >>> >>> Dear Florence, >>> >>> It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior >>> by a user from Rwanda. >>> >>> As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in >>> partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since >>> February 14th [1]. >>> >>> However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already >>> decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been >>> slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user >>> Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his >>> modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring >>> the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same >>> time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior >>> cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as >>> of Wikipedia. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99s_fight_climate_change_and_the_gender_gap_on_Wikipedia >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Patience Kavira >>> Environmental specialist >>> University of Kisangani >>> >>> >>> -- >> derrick >> > ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/DLXOH55XERIKVSRZQDDT7B5BCYGV4K56/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/T4KDR4OXPT2JWYWUSY66XWTFTI3KMTTS/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org -- derrick ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at:
[Wikimedia-l] Re: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
Hi Derrick, Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards that. There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities, and there is no preventive method against it. Best, Rafi On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter < ndahiroder...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though ( > I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did > that was really necessary but I understand the context ) > > I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills > of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal > apology to the original author and the team receiving grants . > > Best regards > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA wrote: > >> Forward as received >> >> FYI dear community member >> >> Abel Lifaefi Mbula >> Free Software Dev >> Free Culture Enthousiast >> >> Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send >> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/ >> >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> From: patience kavira >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 >> Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 >> To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> De : patience kavira >> Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 >> Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 >> To: fdevou...@anthere.org , >> donatien.ka...@gmail.com , >> emmanuelle...@gmail.com , i...@wikiinafrica.org >> >> Cc: , < >> african-wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org>, < >> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> >> Dear Florence, >> >> It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior >> by a user from Rwanda. >> >> As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in >> partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since >> February 14th [1]. >> >> However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already >> decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been >> slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user >> Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his >> modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring >> the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same >> time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior >> cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as >> of Wikipedia. >> >> [1] >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99s_fight_climate_change_and_the_gender_gap_on_Wikipedia >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Patience Kavira >> Environmental specialist >> University of Kisangani >> >> >> -- > derrick > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/DLXOH55XERIKVSRZQDDT7B5BCYGV4K56/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/T4KDR4OXPT2JWYWUSY66XWTFTI3KMTTS/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikimedia-l] Re: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102
Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did that was really necessary but I understand the context ) I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal apology to the original author and the team receiving grants . Best regards On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA wrote: > Forward as received > > FYI dear community member > > Abel Lifaefi Mbula > Free Software Dev > Free Culture Enthousiast > > Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send > OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/ > > > > > -- Forwarded message - > From: patience kavira > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 > Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 > To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) > > > > -- Forwarded message - > De : patience kavira > Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 > Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 > To: fdevou...@anthere.org , > donatien.ka...@gmail.com , > emmanuelle...@gmail.com , i...@wikiinafrica.org < > i...@wikiinafrica.org> > Cc: , < > african-wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org>, > > > > Dear Florence, > > It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior by > a user from Rwanda. > > As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in > partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since > February 14th [1]. > > However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already decided > on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been slightly > modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user > Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his > modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring > the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same > time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior > cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as > of Wikipedia. > > [1] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99s_fight_climate_change_and_the_gender_gap_on_Wikipedia > > > Kind regards, > > Patience Kavira > Environmental specialist > University of Kisangani > > > -- derrick ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/DLXOH55XERIKVSRZQDDT7B5BCYGV4K56/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
