[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia’s Intentional Distortion of the History of the Holocaust

2023-02-13 Thread Clover Moss 
Anyways, ArbCom has opened (reopened?) the Holocaust in Poland case, likely
due to this journal article.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 6:10 a.m. Ndahiro Derrick Alter <
ndahiroder...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't be surprised that much, after seeing the same distortion happening
> where the 1994 Genocide against Tutsi
> 
>  is
> termed as the Rwandan genocide
> , a statement used by
> deniers.
>
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 03:36, Clover Moss 
> wrote:
>
>> Piotrus and Volunteer Marek, among others, are Wikipedians mentioned in
>> the above article. I contacted those two individuals because I felt it was
>> fair for them to be aware that people were discussing them in an off wiki
>> venue. Anyways, Piotrus said that I could share their response:
>> Thank you for the information, but I am unsure how to find that
>> particular discussion. I am aware of the general context (the article),
>> which is being discussed in some places on Wikipedia. My quick comment on
>> it is that this article contains numerous errors and inaccuracies (mixed
>> with an occasional fair point or critique, nothing is white and black), and
>> seems significantly based on data provided to the researches by a very
>> tainted source, i.e. globally banned user Icewhiz, who was first topic
>> banned the Polish-Jewish topic area by ArbCom, then site banned from
>> Wikimedia Projects for harassment of myself, Volunteer Marek and others.
>> You are welcome to post my above message there through a direct quote.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 12:38 p.m.  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I would like to bring this scholarly article to your urgent attention:
>>> Wikipedia’s Intentional Distortion of the History of the Holocaust (
>>> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/25785648.2023.2168939)
>>> Even though it's title is somewhat suspicious it describes a very specific
>>> problem on English Wikipedia which is tragic and unacceptable. I'm happy to
>>> help any way I can to solve this but I hope that admins will act on this as
>>> soon as possible.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Adam
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia’s Intentional Distortion of the History of the Holocaust

2023-02-11 Thread Ndahiro Derrick Alter 
I can't be surprised that much, after seeing the same distortion happening
where the 1994 Genocide against Tutsi

is
termed as the Rwandan genocide
, a statement used by
deniers.

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 03:36, Clover Moss 
wrote:

> Piotrus and Volunteer Marek, among others, are Wikipedians mentioned in
> the above article. I contacted those two individuals because I felt it was
> fair for them to be aware that people were discussing them in an off wiki
> venue. Anyways, Piotrus said that I could share their response:
> Thank you for the information, but I am unsure how to find that particular
> discussion. I am aware of the general context (the article), which is being
> discussed in some places on Wikipedia. My quick comment on it is that this
> article contains numerous errors and inaccuracies (mixed with an occasional
> fair point or critique, nothing is white and black), and seems
> significantly based on data provided to the researches by a very tainted
> source, i.e. globally banned user Icewhiz, who was first topic banned the
> Polish-Jewish topic area by ArbCom, then site banned from Wikimedia
> Projects for harassment of myself, Volunteer Marek and others. You are
> welcome to post my above message there through a direct quote.
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 12:38 p.m.  wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I would like to bring this scholarly article to your urgent attention:
>> Wikipedia’s Intentional Distortion of the History of the Holocaust (
>> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/25785648.2023.2168939) Even
>> though it's title is somewhat suspicious it describes a very specific
>> problem on English Wikipedia which is tragic and unacceptable. I'm happy to
>> help any way I can to solve this but I hope that admins will act on this as
>> soon as possible.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Adam
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia’s Intentional Distortion of the History of the Holocaust

2023-02-10 Thread Clover Moss 
Piotrus and Volunteer Marek, among others, are Wikipedians mentioned in the
above article. I contacted those two individuals because I felt it was fair
for them to be aware that people were discussing them in an off wiki venue.
Anyways, Piotrus said that I could share their response:
Thank you for the information, but I am unsure how to find that particular
discussion. I am aware of the general context (the article), which is being
discussed in some places on Wikipedia. My quick comment on it is that this
article contains numerous errors and inaccuracies (mixed with an occasional
fair point or critique, nothing is white and black), and seems
significantly based on data provided to the researches by a very tainted
source, i.e. globally banned user Icewhiz, who was first topic banned the
Polish-Jewish topic area by ArbCom, then site banned from Wikimedia
Projects for harassment of myself, Volunteer Marek and others. You are
welcome to post my above message there through a direct quote.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 12:38 p.m.  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I would like to bring this scholarly article to your urgent attention:
> Wikipedia’s Intentional Distortion of the History of the Holocaust (
> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/25785648.2023.2168939) Even
> though it's title is somewhat suspicious it describes a very specific
> problem on English Wikipedia which is tragic and unacceptable. I'm happy to
> help any way I can to solve this but I hope that admins will act on this as
> soon as possible.
>
> Best wishes,
> Adam
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