Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Vishnu T]

Hello Jake,

This is fantastic for an Alpha sage! Have gone through the entire mission.
There was some problem in loading the next levels at certain stages and I
had to refresh the page couple of times. Would be nice if this could be
tested with a completely new set of users across geographies and age-groups
in Beta stage. I could help finding people from India.

Would like this to be finalized soon and try to customize it to the Indian
languages.

Great work!

Cheers,
Vishnu


On 29 October 2013 21:40, Strainu  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Went through mission 1 and the main feedback is that it's just too
> long. You should break the missions in smaller, quicker steps.
>
> The interface is visually pleasant and as far as I can see, it gets
> you through all the basic editing skills, which is nice. However, the
> messages are not always in the same place and sometimes are not
> visible in the visible part of the page, making it a little confusing
> for people without much computer skills. It would also help to be able
> to move the box.
>
> I especially like the little badges you get, but I'm not quite sure
> how they are aligned (perhaps because I only got 1): the first one was
> put in the middle of the page (horizontally)
>
> Are there any technical details on the game and the difficulty of
> implementing it on other wikis?
>
> Thanks,
>   Strainu
>
> 2013/10/28 Katherine Casey :
> > Some thoughts upon running through this (roughly in the order I am
> > experiencing them):
> >
> >- This is actually pretty cool. Cooler than I expected it to be!
> >- Instructions sometimes tell me to click "edit source" and sometimes
> to
> >click "edit", even though it always means that I should click "edit
> >source". Since the VE button says "edit", this is potentially pretty
> >confusing.
> >- At the end of missions, the button says "Congrats me!". That's
> pretty
> >jarring English - more natural would be either, "Congrats, me!" or
> >"Congrats to me!"
> >- The "select how you would reply to this person" challenges
> >are...patronizing? That's not quite the right word, but I don't think
> >they're modelling anything useful by basically pointing out "hey, you
> >shouldn't be a rude jackass" as if it's someone's going to read those
> >options and go "yes! this is clearly how I should act!". More useful
> would
> >be modelling interaction strategies and tricks, like how to engage
> with
> >some who's left you a rude message or even just what information is
> useful
> >to provide to other users.
> >- Galactic challenges keep launching new tabs for me when they don't
> >seem like they ought to (i.e. there's no reason I need to have the
> results
> >of that challenge preserved in one firefox tab while I move on in
> another)
> >- The "watchlist" module has instructions that are a little bit
> >confusing - it instructs you on *how *to watchlist (blue star, etc),
> but
> >then tells you to *click *on watchlist on the "top right". Since both
> >the star and the actual watchlist link are on the top right, it's
> likely
> >going to be unclear to newbies whether you want them to click on the
> star
> >you just explained, or the link you didn't.
> >- In general when you're telling people to "click X above", it might
> be
> >useful to use quotes so they know you're telling to click on
> something that
> >literally says that - tell them to *click "contributions" above
> *rather
> >than to *click contributions above*
> >- When doing spelling corrections, the hover box listing what I needed
> >to correct obscured part of the text that needed correcting. I
> couldn't
> >correct that until I closed the box. Once I did that, I was bumped
> out of
> >the lesson entirely. Couldn't figure out how to the mission to pick
> back up
> >there, so I had to stop. Why can't we either minimize the
> instructions box,
> >or have it resurrect when we complete a step (that is, if I did what
> it
> >wanted me to do, it should pick back up smoothly when I save the page
> with
> >its next instruction, rather than just disappearing forever because I
> had
> >to click the X)
> >
> > In short: really very cool, but in the parts I managed to get through
> > (Missions 1-2 and part of 3) there are some small interface issues that
> > need work, and one *glaring *one that short-circuited my attempt to get
> > through a mission and, I guess, the entire adventure.
> >
> > -Fluffernutter
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive
> guided
> >> tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a
> WMF
> >> Individual Engagement Grant.  The game is an experiment in teaching our
> >> aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.
> >>
> >> *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the ti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Strainu]

Hi,

Went through mission 1 and the main feedback is that it's just too
long. You should break the missions in smaller, quicker steps.

The interface is visually pleasant and as far as I can see, it gets
you through all the basic editing skills, which is nice. However, the
messages are not always in the same place and sometimes are not
visible in the visible part of the page, making it a little confusing
for people without much computer skills. It would also help to be able
to move the box.

I especially like the little badges you get, but I'm not quite sure
how they are aligned (perhaps because I only got 1): the first one was
put in the middle of the page (horizontally)

Are there any technical details on the game and the difficulty of
implementing it on other wikis?

Thanks,
  Strainu

2013/10/28 Katherine Casey :
> Some thoughts upon running through this (roughly in the order I am
> experiencing them):
>
>- This is actually pretty cool. Cooler than I expected it to be!
>- Instructions sometimes tell me to click "edit source" and sometimes to
>click "edit", even though it always means that I should click "edit
>source". Since the VE button says "edit", this is potentially pretty
>confusing.
>- At the end of missions, the button says "Congrats me!". That's pretty
>jarring English - more natural would be either, "Congrats, me!" or
>"Congrats to me!"
>- The "select how you would reply to this person" challenges
>are...patronizing? That's not quite the right word, but I don't think
>they're modelling anything useful by basically pointing out "hey, you
>shouldn't be a rude jackass" as if it's someone's going to read those
>options and go "yes! this is clearly how I should act!". More useful would
>be modelling interaction strategies and tricks, like how to engage with
>some who's left you a rude message or even just what information is useful
>to provide to other users.
>- Galactic challenges keep launching new tabs for me when they don't
>seem like they ought to (i.e. there's no reason I need to have the results
>of that challenge preserved in one firefox tab while I move on in another)
>- The "watchlist" module has instructions that are a little bit
>confusing - it instructs you on *how *to watchlist (blue star, etc), but
>then tells you to *click *on watchlist on the "top right". Since both
>the star and the actual watchlist link are on the top right, it's likely
>going to be unclear to newbies whether you want them to click on the star
>you just explained, or the link you didn't.
>- In general when you're telling people to "click X above", it might be
>useful to use quotes so they know you're telling to click on something that
>literally says that - tell them to *click "contributions" above *rather
>than to *click contributions above*
>- When doing spelling corrections, the hover box listing what I needed
>to correct obscured part of the text that needed correcting. I couldn't
>correct that until I closed the box. Once I did that, I was bumped out of
>the lesson entirely. Couldn't figure out how to the mission to pick back up
>there, so I had to stop. Why can't we either minimize the instructions box,
>or have it resurrect when we complete a step (that is, if I did what it
>wanted me to do, it should pick back up smoothly when I save the page with
>its next instruction, rather than just disappearing forever because I had
>to click the X)
>
> In short: really very cool, but in the parts I managed to get through
> (Missions 1-2 and part of 3) there are some small interface issues that
> need work, and one *glaring *one that short-circuited my attempt to get
> through a mission and, I guess, the entire adventure.
>
> -Fluffernutter
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided
>> tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF
>> Individual Engagement Grant.  The game is an experiment in teaching our
>> aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.
>>
>> *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically
>> try to break it.  I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of
>> course, but I'm really looking for gnarly, unexpected browser issues,
>> layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent
>> people from playing through and having a positive experience.
>>
>> *If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this
>> week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar,
>> c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark
>> on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts.
>>
>> *Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace
>> and it lets you know when tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Katherine Casey]

Some thoughts upon running through this (roughly in the order I am
experiencing them):

   - This is actually pretty cool. Cooler than I expected it to be!
   - Instructions sometimes tell me to click "edit source" and sometimes to
   click "edit", even though it always means that I should click "edit
   source". Since the VE button says "edit", this is potentially pretty
   confusing.
   - At the end of missions, the button says "Congrats me!". That's pretty
   jarring English - more natural would be either, "Congrats, me!" or
   "Congrats to me!"
   - The "select how you would reply to this person" challenges
   are...patronizing? That's not quite the right word, but I don't think
   they're modelling anything useful by basically pointing out "hey, you
   shouldn't be a rude jackass" as if it's someone's going to read those
   options and go "yes! this is clearly how I should act!". More useful would
   be modelling interaction strategies and tricks, like how to engage with
   some who's left you a rude message or even just what information is useful
   to provide to other users.
   - Galactic challenges keep launching new tabs for me when they don't
   seem like they ought to (i.e. there's no reason I need to have the results
   of that challenge preserved in one firefox tab while I move on in another)
   - The "watchlist" module has instructions that are a little bit
   confusing - it instructs you on *how *to watchlist (blue star, etc), but
   then tells you to *click *on watchlist on the "top right". Since both
   the star and the actual watchlist link are on the top right, it's likely
   going to be unclear to newbies whether you want them to click on the star
   you just explained, or the link you didn't.
   - In general when you're telling people to "click X above", it might be
   useful to use quotes so they know you're telling to click on something that
   literally says that - tell them to *click "contributions" above *rather
   than to *click contributions above*
   - When doing spelling corrections, the hover box listing what I needed
   to correct obscured part of the text that needed correcting. I couldn't
   correct that until I closed the box. Once I did that, I was bumped out of
   the lesson entirely. Couldn't figure out how to the mission to pick back up
   there, so I had to stop. Why can't we either minimize the instructions box,
   or have it resurrect when we complete a step (that is, if I did what it
   wanted me to do, it should pick back up smoothly when I save the page with
   its next instruction, rather than just disappearing forever because I had
   to click the X)

In short: really very cool, but in the parts I managed to get through
(Missions 1-2 and part of 3) there are some small interface issues that
need work, and one *glaring *one that short-circuited my attempt to get
through a mission and, I guess, the entire adventure.

-Fluffernutter


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz  wrote:

> Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided
> tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF
> Individual Engagement Grant.  The game is an experiment in teaching our
> aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.
>
> *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically
> try to break it.  I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of
> course, but I'm really looking for gnarly, unexpected browser issues,
> layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent
> people from playing through and having a positive experience.
>
> *If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this
> week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar,
> c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark
> on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts.
>
> *Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace
> and it lets you know when that will happen.  If you want, you can register
> a new testing account just for the game, but it won't work properly unless
> you're logged-in by step 8 of mission 1 (when it lets you register on the
> fly).
>
> You can try it out at http://enwp.org/WP:TWA and leave feedback at
> http://enwp.org/WP:TWA/Feedback]].
>
> Thanks much and cheers!
>
> --Jake Orlowitz (Ocaasi)
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list
> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list
Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Andrea Zanni]

Hi Jake. I completed the first mission, editing and formatting.
Hi think it's pretty cool!

A minor issue, maybe, is that the badge is created at the bottom of the
page, in the center. I personally don't like that, as I'm used to having
things on the right side of it.
As I'm supposed to be a newbie, I maybe don't know hox to fix it, or move
it or anything.

ANother thing is that I clicked on the Editor badgem to see what it was
like, and I bit of lost myself. Is the message clear enoguh, when you say
"go back and click edit"?

But, as I said, these are minor things.
It would be very cool tro translate this game in Italian too, at the end :-)

Aubrey


On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Jake Orlowitz  wrote:

> David, I think I just fixed it with the help of Village Pump Tech.  Please
> give it another go.
>
> http://enwp.org/WP:TWA
>
> Cheers! Jake (Ocaasi)
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list
> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 
>
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list
Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Jake Orlowitz]

David, I think I just fixed it with the help of Village Pump Tech.  Please
give it another go.

http://enwp.org/WP:TWA

Cheers! Jake (Ocaasi)
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list
Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Jake Orlowitz]

Hey David, Thanks!  This is a known bug and I'm fixing it this weekend.  If
you make an edit, you can see the rest of the game.  This is first priority
for fixing, though.  Thanks again! Jake (Ocaasi)
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list
Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[David Cuenca]

Hi Jake!
How are you doing? I just tried your game and I found a bug after earning
the first badge. I was supposed to do an edit with italics and bolding, the
think is that I already had bolded text in my profile, so I just saved
without editing. The interface prompted me "You "Added bold, italics, and
wikilinks". Just click SAVE, and your edits will go live." with the button
"go back and make an edit". The thing is that it wrongly loads:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Micru&action=edit

Instead of the correct:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit

So far it is the only thing I've seen, good job! :)

Cheers,
Micru



On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Jake Orlowitz  wrote:

> Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided
> tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF
> Individual Engagement Grant.  The game is an experiment in teaching our
> aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.
>
> *This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically
> try to break it.  I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of
> course, but I'm really looking for gnarly, unexpected browser issues,
> layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent
> people from playing through and having a positive experience.
>
> *If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this
> week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar,
> c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark
> on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts.
>
> *Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace
> and it lets you know when that will happen.  If you want, you can register
> a new testing account just for the game, but it won't work properly unless
> you're logged-in by step 8 of mission 1 (when it lets you register on the
> fly).
>
> You can try it out at http://enwp.org/WP:TWA and leave feedback at
> http://enwp.org/WP:TWA/Feedback]].
>
> Thanks much and cheers!
>
> --Jake Orlowitz (Ocaasi)
> ___
> Wikimedia-l mailing list
> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> 




-- 
Etiamsi omnes, ego non
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list
Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, 

[Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

[Jake Orlowitz]

Hi folks! I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided
tour for new editors called '''The Wikipedia Adventure''', as part of a WMF
Individual Engagement Grant.  The game is an experiment in teaching our
aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.

*This week I need some '''alpha-testers''' to kick the tires and basically
try to break it.  I'm interested in general impressions and suggestions of
course, but I'm really looking for gnarly, unexpected browser issues,
layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent
people from playing through and having a positive experience.

*If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this
week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar,
c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark
on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts.

*Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace
and it lets you know when that will happen.  If you want, you can register
a new testing account just for the game, but it won't work properly unless
you're logged-in by step 8 of mission 1 (when it lets you register on the
fly).

You can try it out at http://enwp.org/WP:TWA and leave feedback at
http://enwp.org/WP:TWA/Feedback]].

Thanks much and cheers!

--Jake Orlowitz (Ocaasi)
___
Wikimedia-l mailing list
Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,