Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF 2013 elections post-mortem

2013-08-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Anders Wennersten, 31/07/2013 09:18:

As Bishakha  I believe time now is ripe to strengthen the election
process and that we should aim for a standing committee. In the same
time I think it would be good to look into this group a bit further
(technical support, how to elect the committee, split dates for
FDC/board elections etc).

I have put up a proposal at

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Post_mortem/Report_from_Risker


where I differ with Bishakha on the size and think five members, more
dedicated, would do


The proposals differ, but they all seem to share some premises that I 
don't understand. In my opinion:
1) if we have few candidates and few votes for the WMF board election, 
of course the board itself is responsible of this and has to take care 
of it: it's not about election processes or other superstructures;
2) if the election committee as a whole failed to do its job, its scope 
and recruitment should be more focused (so that people know what's 
important to get done and they do it), rather than its prerogatives 
further expanded.

The two are tightly connected, see (B) below.

Two examples.
A) I want the election committee to ensure that each vote is kept 
private and counted fairly: this year's committee didn't explain what 
the consequences of migrating to a WMF-hosted wiki are; a bigger 
committee would reduce privacy.
B) I don't want the committee to decide the rules for the elections, 
especially during the elections. That's both wrong and a waste of time. 
Rules should be decided by the board (directly or not, addressing COI of 
course) in a way that makes them integral to a broader reasoning on what 
the board should be and what are the means for reaching the defined goals.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF 2013 elections post-mortem

2013-07-31 Thread Anders Wennersten
As Bishakha  I believe time now is ripe to strengthen the election 
process and that we should aim for a standing committee. In the same 
time I think it would be good to look into this group a bit further 
(technical support, how to elect the committee, split dates for 
FDC/board elections etc).


I have put up a proposal at

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Post_mortem/Report_from_Risker

where I differ with Bishakha on the size and think five members, more 
dedicated, would do


Anders

Bishakha Datta skrev 2013-07-30 08:54:

Dear all,

Risker has prepared a detailed report of the 2013 elections outlining
several of the challenges that the Elections Committee faced this year.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Post_mortem/Report_from_Risker#Discussion_6

My report as board liaison is on the talk page at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Post_mortem/Report_from_Risker

Both these need serious movement-wide discussion.

Please add your thoughts and comments so that we may consider various
possibilities and act to strengthen the election process before it recedes
from our consciousness.

Best
Bishakha
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[Wikimedia-l] WMF 2013 elections post-mortem

2013-07-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
Dear all,

Risker has prepared a detailed report of the 2013 elections outlining
several of the challenges that the Elections Committee faced this year.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Post_mortem/Report_from_Risker#Discussion_6

My report as board liaison is on the talk page at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Post_mortem/Report_from_Risker

Both these need serious movement-wide discussion.

Please add your thoughts and comments so that we may consider various
possibilities and act to strengthen the election process before it recedes
from our consciousness.

Best
Bishakha
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