Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia events: staging area?

2012-04-19 Thread Sage Ross
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 With all the Wikimedia events it is a problem that keeps coming back:
 whether participants do or do not want to be photographed. Often we get to
 a very crude binary result: either everything is allowed, or nothing at
 all. And still most people seem to violate that simply.

 Hence, I was thinking whether a more personal and photo specific option
 would be available - allowing people to veto certain pictures before they
 get 'really' published. After all, Commons doesn't allow deletion simply
 because you dont like the quality or dont want to become public in that
 position.

 Would it be an option to create a staging area, where people can upload
 their event photos of Wikimedia events, and where people can simply veto
 their own pictures? The vetoing doesnt have to be water tight, but rather
 easy. A password to enter the staging area for that specific event could be
 given to the participants where they can check the photos and veto them.
 Then we can proceed with 'no veto = published' and mass upload the
 non-vetoed photos after a while to Wikimedia Commons.

 If we can develop this centrally (and make it available to all Wikimedia
 events) or install something on Wikimedia servers that already does this,
 that would save a lot of event organizers headaches. Any feedback, anyone
 who would be willing and able to pick this up?



This is a really good idea, Lodewijk!

Keeping track of who does and doesn't want their photos up on Commons
(and which photos they want) can be quite a hassle.

-Sage

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia events: staging area?

2012-04-19 Thread Kevin Gorman
If we don't want to develop an internal solution, it would be pretty
simple to set up a private flickr album and email it out to all
attendees for feedback.


Kevin Gorman
user:kgorman-ucb

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 However this is done, it could also be a cheap first pass at a
 quarantine for images being worked on with a GLAM institution as well,
 while cleaned up / license-cleared / de-duped.

 S.

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org 
 wrote:
 Hi all,

 With all the Wikimedia events it is a problem that keeps coming back:
 whether participants do or do not want to be photographed. Often we get to
 a very crude binary result: either everything is allowed, or nothing at
 all. And still most people seem to violate that simply.

 Hence, I was thinking whether a more personal and photo specific option
 would be available - allowing people to veto certain pictures before they
 get 'really' published. After all, Commons doesn't allow deletion simply
 because you dont like the quality or dont want to become public in that
 position.

 Would it be an option to create a staging area, where people can upload
 their event photos of Wikimedia events, and where people can simply veto
 their own pictures? The vetoing doesnt have to be water tight, but rather
 easy. A password to enter the staging area for that specific event could be
 given to the participants where they can check the photos and veto them.
 Then we can proceed with 'no veto = published' and mass upload the
 non-vetoed photos after a while to Wikimedia Commons.

 If we can develop this centrally (and make it available to all Wikimedia
 events) or install something on Wikimedia servers that already does this,
 that would save a lot of event organizers headaches. Any feedback, anyone
 who would be willing and able to pick this up?



 This is a really good idea, Lodewijk!

 Keeping track of who does and doesn't want their photos up on Commons
 (and which photos they want) can be quite a hassle.

 -Sage

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia events: staging area?

2012-04-19 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
If we can't manage to set this up on-project because of rules, we
collectively fail Wiki 101

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote:
 If we don't want to develop an internal solution, it would be pretty
 simple to set up a private flickr album and email it out to all
 attendees for feedback.

 
 Kevin Gorman
 user:kgorman-ucb

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 However this is done, it could also be a cheap first pass at a
 quarantine for images being worked on with a GLAM institution as well,
 while cleaned up / license-cleared / de-duped.

 S.

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org 
 wrote:
 Hi all,

 With all the Wikimedia events it is a problem that keeps coming back:
 whether participants do or do not want to be photographed. Often we get to
 a very crude binary result: either everything is allowed, or nothing at
 all. And still most people seem to violate that simply.

 Hence, I was thinking whether a more personal and photo specific option
 would be available - allowing people to veto certain pictures before they
 get 'really' published. After all, Commons doesn't allow deletion simply
 because you dont like the quality or dont want to become public in that
 position.

 Would it be an option to create a staging area, where people can upload
 their event photos of Wikimedia events, and where people can simply veto
 their own pictures? The vetoing doesnt have to be water tight, but rather
 easy. A password to enter the staging area for that specific event could be
 given to the participants where they can check the photos and veto them.
 Then we can proceed with 'no veto = published' and mass upload the
 non-vetoed photos after a while to Wikimedia Commons.

 If we can develop this centrally (and make it available to all Wikimedia
 events) or install something on Wikimedia servers that already does this,
 that would save a lot of event organizers headaches. Any feedback, anyone
 who would be willing and able to pick this up?



 This is a really good idea, Lodewijk!

 Keeping track of who does and doesn't want their photos up on Commons
 (and which photos they want) can be quite a hassle.

 -Sage

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