Re: [Wikimedia-l] is Wikiquote in decline or just stagnant

2014-03-26 Thread Gryllida
Hi John,

Thanks for these details...

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, at 13:19, John Mark Vandenberg wrote:
 See the graphs for 5+ editors here:
 
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm

I find it humorous that this page says number of Wikipedians for some other 
language editions.

 
 It is wikinews that

Careful about wording there. English Wikinews. Other language editions are 
different.


 has been loosing contributors since mid 2008, and

And obtaining too -- the stats show the sum of those who joined and those who 
left I believe.

 new articles per day has dropped since late 2010.

That's around when they introduced the peer review. (Again, just the English 
version.)

 
 Wikibooks contributor count fluctuates a lot.
 
 Wikiquote is fairly static, but using a constant number of
 contributors to justify 'stagnant' isnt accurate.  The content metrics
 of Wikiquote indicate it is still growing, at a fairly constant rate.

Right; I'm personally quite disliking these statistics, as the software has no 
means implemented to merge edits, such as when I make a typo. I keep struggling 
to find means to reduce the edit count to make things easier for others to 
track.

Gryllida.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] is Wikiquote in decline or just stagnant

2014-03-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
As noted, the graph highlights that editors of Wikiquote are stable, 
while Wikinews (as well known) is dropping. The long-term graphs are at 
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.htm (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42318 
to have it functional).
Wikiquote keeps expanding, especially Italian and Russian, and with the 
exception of German and Portuguese (all of this since several years ago; 
Polish and French go up and down):

* http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/TablesDatabaseSize.htm
* http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/TablesWikipediansEditsGt5.htm

Note that it's easy for stats on Wikiquote active editors to give a 
false picture, especially in English where over half of edits come from 
unregistered users and the top class of editors only has 21 % of edits.

http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#anonymous
Wikiquote attracts new and occasional contributors, in most languages. 
That's a feature, not a bug.  ;-)


Nemo

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[Wikimedia-l] is Wikiquote in decline or just stagnant

2014-03-25 Thread James Salsman
Which of the two contradictory colorings on
http://infodisiac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/UniqueActiveEditorsOnSmallProjects-Decline.png
is correct?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] is Wikiquote in decline or just stagnant

2014-03-25 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
See the graphs for 5+ editors here:

http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm

It is wikinews that has been loosing contributors since mid 2008, and
new articles per day has dropped since late 2010.

Wikibooks contributor count fluctuates a lot.

Wikiquote is fairly static, but using a constant number of
contributors to justify 'stagnant' isnt accurate.  The content metrics
of Wikiquote indicate it is still growing, at a fairly constant rate.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:07 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
 Which of the two contradictory colorings on
 http://infodisiac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/UniqueActiveEditorsOnSmallProjects-Decline.png
 is correct?

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