Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Tomasz Finc]

This is going to be a fun one to watch over the next many months.
Thank for the link Yuri

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Yuri Astrakhan
 wrote:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik/US_Politics_Real_Time
>
> Thanks Dario Taraborelli for the idea.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Gergo, good to know, thanks.  Graph extension itself does not know how long
the data is valid - it simply gets a URL from which to get the pageviews
(or any other) data. At this point, only the person who writes the graph
template knows how long its valid for.

We could add an extra attribute to the graph, e.g. 
(number of minutes), to let graph extension update cache expiry.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Gergo Tisza  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Yuri Astrakhan 
> wrote:
>
> > It will be updated whenever the page containing the template is
> > re-generated (e.g. the page is changed, or someone does a null-save).  I
> > heard that every page is forcefully regenerated if its older than 30
> days,
> >
>
> Yes, and extension tags embedded in the page can reduce that, so if the
> graph has a way of knowing how long the data will be valid, it can tell
> that to the parser via ParserOutput::updateCacheExpiry.
> As a hacky manual workaround, you can put  style="display:none">{{CURRENTHOUR}} into the page to force hourly
> refresh.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Gergo Tisza]

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Yuri Astrakhan 
wrote:

> It will be updated whenever the page containing the template is
> re-generated (e.g. the page is changed, or someone does a null-save).  I
> heard that every page is forcefully regenerated if its older than 30 days,
>

Yes, and extension tags embedded in the page can reduce that, so if the
graph has a way of knowing how long the data will be valid, it can tell
that to the parser via ParserOutput::updateCacheExpiry.
As a hacky manual workaround, you can put {{CURRENTHOUR}} into the page to force hourly
refresh.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Yuri Astrakhan]

It will be updated whenever the page containing the template is
re-generated (e.g. the page is changed, or someone does a null-save).  I
heard that every page is forcefully regenerated if its older than 30 days,
but I might be mistaken. We should at some point figure out a way to
force-regenerate some of these graphs, but I am not yet sure how to
approach that.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Deborah Tankersley <
dtankers...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Very cool! Will it be updated automatically on a daily basis? :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Deb
>
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> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Yuri Astrakhan 
> wrote:
>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik/US_Politics_Real_Time
>>
>> Thanks Dario Taraborelli for the idea.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Deborah Tankersley]

Very cool! Will it be updated automatically on a daily basis? :)

Cheers,

Deb

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Yuri Astrakhan 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Keegan Peterzell]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Àlex Hinojo  wrote:

> Love it! Thanks for sharing it!
>
>
​Yup yup, this is a very cool little project with a lot of future potential
for other applications.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Àlex Hinojo]

Love it! Thanks for sharing it!

2016-02-18 6:47 GMT+01:00 Yuri Astrakhan :

> Max, it seems Vermin Supreme is no longer running :)
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Max Semenik 
> wrote:
>
> > W00t! I had to add an important candidate though:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15358086 ;)
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <
> yastrak...@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik/US_Politics_Real_Time
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [discovery] USA elections in real time - as viewed by Wikipedia users

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Max, it seems Vermin Supreme is no longer running :)

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Max Semenik  wrote:

> W00t! I had to add an important candidate though:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15358086 ;)
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Yuri Astrakhan 
> wrote:
>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik/US_Politics_Real_Time
>>
>> Thanks Dario Taraborelli for the idea.
>>
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