Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

[Dan Garry]

On 30 March 2016 at 17:10, Gnangarra  wrote:

> Already possible to get a grid of images in commons
>
> Start in Category:Lichens
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens
> then use the FastCCI tool https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:FastCCI
>
> It returns
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens?fastcci=%7B%22c1%22%3A9839830%2C%22d1%22%3A15%2C%22s%22%3A200%2C%22a%22%3A%22list%22%7D


This is great! Wouldn't it be wonderful if our default search experience
could be a bit like that, too? :-)

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

[Gnangarra]

Already possible to get a grid of images in commons

Start in Category:Lichens
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens
then use the FastCCI tool https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:FastCCI

It returns
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens?fastcci=%7B%22c1%22%3A9839830%2C%22d1%22%3A15%2C%22s%22%3A200%2C%22a%22%3A%22list%22%7D

On 31 March 2016 at 07:30, Dan Garry  wrote:

> On 30 March 2016 at 13:19, Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Hoe does this fit in with the plan to use structured data for Commons?
> As I
> > understand it, the plan is to use tags for pictures, this will make what
> > pictures depict findable in any language with the appropriate labels.
> >
>
> The Search Team doesn't know the details yet. But, the more structured data
> there is about files, the easier time we'll have building compelling
> experiences that return relevant results. That's why we noted the
> structured data for Commons project as a dependency
> <
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Discovery/FDC_Proposal#Dependencies
> >
> in the narrative document. I doubt we'd be able to do anything other than
> trivial improvements to media search without having structured data about
> the files in place.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

[Dan Garry]

On 30 March 2016 at 13:19, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Hoe does this fit in with the plan to use structured data for Commons? As I
> understand it, the plan is to use tags for pictures, this will make what
> pictures depict findable in any language with the appropriate labels.
>

The Search Team doesn't know the details yet. But, the more structured data
there is about files, the easier time we'll have building compelling
experiences that return relevant results. That's why we noted the
structured data for Commons project as a dependency

in the narrative document. I doubt we'd be able to do anything other than
trivial improvements to media search without having structured data about
the files in place.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Hoe does this fit in with the plan to use structured data for Commons? As I
understand it, the plan is to use tags for pictures, this will make what
pictures depict findable in any language with the appropriate labels.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 30 March 2016 at 20:02, Dan Garry  wrote:

> Hello Micru!
>
> Responses in-line.
>
> On 30 March 2016 at 10:33, David Cuenca Tudela  wrote:
>
> > I was looking for some lichen images on Commons and I was wondering how
> can
> > I show a grid of images. I tried several options but nothing, I think
> that
> > there was some hack to make the search results look more like Google
> > images, or maybe I am wrong?
> >
>
> I assume you're looking for something like this
> ? That screenshot was taken the dialogue
> used to instead media in VisualEditor. Unfortunately, the search interface
> in MediaWiki does not offer this functionality right now.
>
> This screenshot also happens to illustrate another common problem with
> media search; you probably weren't looking for the Basilica of Our Lady of
> Licheń 
> in
> the village of Licheń Stary
>  in Poland, but there it
> is anyway!
>
>
> > Is this part of the Discovery team work?
> >
>
> Yes, improving the experience of the search page on-wiki is within the
> scope of the Search Team in the Discovery Department. However, the team is
> not actively working on this right now. Improving media search in
> particular is presently on the roadmap for FY 2016-17
> <
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Discovery/FDC_Proposal#Strategic:_Focus_area_1
> >
> (July 2016 - June 2017) as a strategic focus area.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

[Dan Garry]

Hello Micru!

Responses in-line.

On 30 March 2016 at 10:33, David Cuenca Tudela  wrote:

> I was looking for some lichen images on Commons and I was wondering how can
> I show a grid of images. I tried several options but nothing, I think that
> there was some hack to make the search results look more like Google
> images, or maybe I am wrong?
>

I assume you're looking for something like this
? That screenshot was taken the dialogue
used to instead media in VisualEditor. Unfortunately, the search interface
in MediaWiki does not offer this functionality right now.

This screenshot also happens to illustrate another common problem with
media search; you probably weren't looking for the Basilica of Our Lady of
Licheń  in
the village of Licheń Stary
 in Poland, but there it
is anyway!


> Is this part of the Discovery team work?
>

Yes, improving the experience of the search page on-wiki is within the
scope of the Search Team in the Discovery Department. However, the team is
not actively working on this right now. Improving media search in
particular is presently on the roadmap for FY 2016-17

(July 2016 - June 2017) as a strategic focus area.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Dan

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