Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadlineannouncements

2018-10-23 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l

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From: Philippe Beaudette
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for 
meeting/deadlineannouncements
 
On 
Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:30 AM Fæ < fae...@gmail.com > 
wrote:

>
>
> I propose that we create a movement wide 
announcements list
> (wikimedia-announcements) that is intended for 
broadcasting, rather
> than discussion...
>
>
Hi 
Fae,

Are you suggesting the creation of another announcements list?  
In addition
to   https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ?  
Is
there something wrong with wikimediaannounce-l?  It even forwards 
all
replies to this list for 
discussion.

Thanks,

pb
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadlineannouncements

2018-10-22 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l

Try This;
 
 
From: Paulo Santos Perneta
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 10:18 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing 
List
Cc: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for 
meeting/deadlineannouncements
 
Point 
3.1.3 of RFC 1855 (Netiquette Guidelines), 1995 [1] :

"- Send mail when 
an answer to a question is for one person 
only.
  Remember that News has global 
distribution and the whole world
  probably is 
NOT interested in a personal response.  However, 
don't
  hesitate to post when something will be 
of general interest to the
  Newsgroup 
participants."

Just replace "News" with Mailing List, and "mail" with 
personal mail, as
this was crafted for long gone Usenet. But it's the same 
thing.

Also of interest, and in the same line, is the "Me Too" advice 
just above
this one. :)

[1]  https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

Paulo

Rehman Abubakr 
< rehman.wikime...@live.com > escreveu no dia terça,
16/10/2018 à(s) 
03:19:

> Hello Pine,
>
>
> Since we're on the topic 
of mailing list norms, may I also suggest that we
> please do not copy the 
entire mailing list for any one-to-one well wishes
> as 
well?
>
>
> Example: "Congrats" messages to various topics 
like project completed, new
> affiliate, edit count, or whatsoever. 
Certain times, more than half of my
> mailbox are simply a pile-up of 
one-to-one congratulatory messages that
> really doesn't concern 99% of 
the readers. Maybe those can be sent
> 
direct/off-list?
>
>
> Sorry to somewhat change the topic. But 
I feel this needs to be said
> somewhere, and it might as well be here. 
:)
>
>
>
> Yours truly,
>
> 
User:Rehman
>
>
> 
> 
From: Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > on behalf 
of
> Pine W < wiki.p...@gmail.com >
> Sent: 16 October 2018 
02:19
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List;  wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
> 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline
> 
announcements
>
> Hi Wikimedia-l and Wikitech-l,
>
> 
Keeping in mind the large numbers of subscribers on some Wikimedia email
> 
lists, the endless valuable uses for the time of knowledgeable volunteer
> 
Wikimedians, the significant financial costs for the time of many of the
> 
staff and contractors on these mailing lists, and how packed calendars 
can
> be, I propose that we implement a few social norms/guidelines 
for
> Wikimedia-l and Wikitech-l in particular.
>
> 1. When 
planning to have a one-time public meeting, announce it at least 14
> days 
in advance to give everyone who might like to participate that much
> lead 
time to clear space on their calendars. Rarely is a one-time public
> 
meeting so urgent that it cannot wait 14 days from the day that it is
> 
announced.
>
> 2. Send a maximum of one reminder email regarding a 
one-time public
> meeting, and also send a maximum of one reminder email 
regarding events
> with deadlines such as Wikimania scholarship 
submissions or conference
> presentation proposals. More than one reminder 
about a meeting or deadline
> is excessive.
>
> 3. If 
extending a deadline, send only an announcement of the extension with
> no 
additional reminder.
>
> 4. Send only one email to announce a 
recurring weekly meeting, with no
> additional reminders. Meetings which 
recur less often, such as biweekly or
> monthly, may continue to be 
announced with one additional reminder.
>
> At this time these are 
proposals only. Comments are welcome. If the
> comments become extensive 
then I may request that we move the conversation
> to 
Meta.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Pine
> (  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> 
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