Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:

But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot
imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it
so I wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!

Tomasz


Echo is an absolutely great thing, and I am a heavy echo user, however, 
I am not sure it is scalable. Getting one, two or even ten notifications 
per day is ok, but if I start getting dozens, I am not sure I would be 
able to handle them for example after a day off. So that I am not sure 
it would survive if everybody starts using it heavily.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-12 Thread Mike Peel


 On 12 Apr 2014, at 08:45, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote:
 
 On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
 But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
 feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot
 imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it
 so I wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!
Tomasz
 
 Echo is an absolutely great thing, and I am a heavy echo user, however, I am 
 not sure it is scalable. Getting one, two or even ten notifications per day 
 is ok, but if I start getting dozens, I am not sure I would be able to handle 
 them for example after a day off. So that I am not sure it would survive if 
 everybody starts using it heavily.

If notifications are batched, then I think echo would work well for this. For 
example, I'd love to see it giving notifications of when photos from Commons 
are used in the projects, along the lines of '10 of your photos were added to 
Wikipedia articles. Click to expand this notification/find out more.'

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-12 Thread Jon Davies
It always makes me happy when I find one of mine being used (a rare rhing
in reality) but would surely encourage retention of contributors.


On 12 April 2014 08:05, Mike Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:



  On 12 Apr 2014, at 08:45, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru
 wrote:
 
  On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
  But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
  feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot
  imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it
  so I wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!
 Tomasz
 
  Echo is an absolutely great thing, and I am a heavy echo user, however,
 I am not sure it is scalable. Getting one, two or even ten notifications
 per day is ok, but if I start getting dozens, I am not sure I would be able
 to handle them for example after a day off. So that I am not sure it would
 survive if everybody starts using it heavily.

 If notifications are batched, then I think echo would work well for this.
 For example, I'd love to see it giving notifications of when photos from
 Commons are used in the projects, along the lines of '10 of your photos
 were added to Wikipedia articles. Click to expand this notification/find
 out more.'

 Thanks,
 Mike
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-11 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
Amir,


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Something positive... I just wanted to express my sincere thanks to the
 people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata.


+1. IMO Echo is the most useful and easy to use and helps keep the
discussions on relevant talk pages.

Cheers
Arjuna
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-10 Thread Gryllida
With due thanks, I would like to specifically point to these two bugs, as I 
believe they're changing the style of talking unnecessarily. I would like you 
to see the potential for fixing these early.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49446 - Notifications: Linking a 
username in an Edit-Summary should trigger a notification
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30750 - Notify user when 
username used in an edit summary

gry

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
And I'd like to thank those who are working on making default settings 
saner, because at the last presentation I gave in March I could just 
tell them how easy it is for them to follow what happens to pages after 
their edits.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=50039maxdepth=1hide_resolved=0

(We were not able to see VisualEditor because the library doesn't have 
money to upgrade their Windows computers...)


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-10 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
 Wikidata, because many people there wrote translations of articles, and
 adding interlanguage links was easy and natural. Click Add links, pick a
 language, write the title, that's it. Two years ago I would have to explain
 about square brackets and colons. Some of them just did it by themselves
 without even asking me.

 So thank you so much.

Thank you, Amir! That's great to hear :)


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-04-09 Thread Tomasz W. Kozlowski

Amir E. Aharoni wrote:


In the past I would spend many minutes explaining
about [[]], , '', ref name=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ; and other monstrosities.


You should never, ever use URL as a name for a reference. :-)

But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a 
feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot imagine 
discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it so I 
wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!


Tomasz

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