Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove

2010-11-30 Thread Liam Wyatt
Thank you very very much for this Rose, 
I'm forwarding it to the Australian mailing list from where the request 
originated. Hopefully someone with more technical understanding than I have 
will be able to work some wiki-magic with that information. 

Sincerely,
Liam

(I'm sending this from an iPad and i'm not sure if the original attachment will 
be sent with this email. Please advise if it doesn't and i'll send this again 
from a desktop computer).

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On 30/11/2010, at 6:12, Rose Holley rhol...@nla.gov.au wrote:

 Dear Liam
 
  
 
 I attach a document outlining how some of the NLA services can be harvested.  
 Our plan for Trove including Newspapers is to provide an API so people can 
 download records.  We think more people want an API than OAI so are looking 
 at that first. In the meantime you can screenscrape.
 
  
 
 Records in Trove that are in MARC have a download MARC xml record from the 
 ‘cite this’ box.  That is mainly for books.  The newspaper articles are in 
 ALTO schema (not MARC or DC).  Hope that helps.
 
  
 
 Rose
 
 
 
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 From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com
 Date: 22 November 2010 22:52
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove
 To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 
 
 NLA is exposing DC records va OAI, however I don't think the
 newspapers are yet available via OAI.
 
 http://www.nla.gov.au/digicoll/oai/
 
 http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/oaicat/servlet/OAIHandler?verb=ListMetadataFormats
 
 http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/oaicat/servlet/OAIHandler?verb=ListSets
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Rodney Brown rdbr...@pacific.net.au wrote:
  On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 09:55 +0800, Moondyne wrote:
 
  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249
 
  I see it is working now, though I'm not sure about the publisher term in
  this context. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_news
 
  Wikipedia citation
 {{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 |
  title=SHIPPING. |newspaper=[[The_Mercury_%28Hobart%29|The Mercury
  (Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954)]] |location=Hobart, Tas. |date=7 March 1910 |
  accessdate=23 November 2010 |page=4 |publisher=National Library of
  Australia}}
 
  If you talk to the NLA person again you could ask them to consider
  providing PRISM or Dublin Core metadata, which could be more directly
  mined for citation data.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publishing_Requirements_for_Industry_Standard_Metadata
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove

2010-11-22 Thread Rodney Brown
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 09:55 +0800, Moondyne wrote:

 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 

I see it is working now, though I'm not sure about the publisher term in
this context. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_news

Wikipedia citation
{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 |
title=SHIPPING. |newspaper=[[The_Mercury_%28Hobart%29|The Mercury
(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954)]] |location=Hobart, Tas. |date=7 March 1910 |
accessdate=23 November 2010 |page=4 |publisher=National Library of
Australia}}

If you talk to the NLA person again you could ask them to consider
providing PRISM or Dublin Core metadata, which could be more directly
mined for citation data.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publishing_Requirements_for_Industry_Standard_Metadata


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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove

2010-11-22 Thread John Vandenberg
NLA is exposing DC records va OAI, however I don't think the
newspapers are yet available via OAI.

http://www.nla.gov.au/digicoll/oai/

http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/oaicat/servlet/OAIHandler?verb=ListMetadataFormats

http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/oaicat/servlet/OAIHandler?verb=ListSets

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Rodney Brown rdbr...@pacific.net.au wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 09:55 +0800, Moondyne wrote:

 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249

 I see it is working now, though I'm not sure about the publisher term in
 this context. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_news

 Wikipedia citation
    {{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 |
 title=SHIPPING. |newspaper=[[The_Mercury_%28Hobart%29|The Mercury
 (Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954)]] |location=Hobart, Tas. |date=7 March 1910 |
 accessdate=23 November 2010 |page=4 |publisher=National Library of
 Australia}}

 If you talk to the NLA person again you could ask them to consider
 providing PRISM or Dublin Core metadata, which could be more directly
 mined for citation data.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publishing_Requirements_for_Industry_Standard_Metadata


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[Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove

2010-11-15 Thread Moondyne
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au
is shortly moving to Trove -- http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q=

In Trove, after finding a page I want to cite in Wikipedia, I can click on
More options, Cite, and a window pops up with pre-formattted MLA and APA
cite texts.  Example below

CiteArticle identifierhttp://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249Page
identifierhttp://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page876271 APA citationSHIPPING. (1910,
March 7). *The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954), p. 4. Retrieved November
16, 2010, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 MLA
citationSHIPPING.
*The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954) 7 Mar 1910: 4. Web. 16 Nov
2010.Harvard/Australian
citation1910 'SHIPPING.', *The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954), 7 March,
p. 4, viewed 16 November, 2010, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249
WP uses a hybrid of these formats.  I was wondering if WM-AU could
officially approach NLA to see if a Wikipedia cite could be added to that
window.

Just an idea...

Regards
Ian
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove

2010-11-15 Thread Liam Wyatt
I've put the relevant person at the NLA - Rose Holley (who was a speaker at
GLAM-WIKI :-) ) - in touch with Moondyne. Hopefully they can put something
together!

Best,
-Liam

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On 16 November 2010 01:55, Moondyne moondyne...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au
 is shortly moving to Trove -- http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q=

 In Trove, after finding a page I want to cite in Wikipedia, I can click on
 More options, Cite, and a window pops up with pre-formattted MLA and APA
 cite texts.  Example below

 CiteArticle identifierhttp://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249Page
 identifierhttp://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page876271 APA citationSHIPPING.
 (1910, March 7). *The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954), p. 4. Retrieved
 November 16, 2010, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 MLA
 citationSHIPPING. *The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954) 7 Mar 1910:
 4. Web. 16 Nov 2010.Harvard/Australian citation1910 'SHIPPING.', *The
 Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954), 7 March, p. 4, viewed 16 November,
 2010, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249
 WP uses a hybrid of these formats.  I was wondering if WM-AU could
 officially approach NLA to see if a Wikipedia cite could be added to that
 window.

 Just an idea...

 Regards
 Ian

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