Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Zootober
Well, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Tasmanian_Devil/archive1 Endangered in more ways than one http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fauna_of_Australia http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Green_Tree_Frog http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emu All needing work, particularly FoA, before they get shot at FAR On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Peter Halasz qub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, I like the idea of having an article about the Brown Mountain crayfish before it's even formally described :) The transcript of the Environment East Gippsland v VicForests court case is online, and it includes testimony and a survey/report from Rob McCormack (Day 8), who's one of the discoverers of the crayfish. Originally it was thought to be an Orbost spiny crayfish, but VicForests disagreed, saying you couldn't tell from the photo and it was probably a more common species. So the environmentalists had another look and it turned out to be an undiscovered species. The outcome of the case is that VicForests has been found to be failing to do animal surveys before logging (largely they have done none at all), and must now show that they are doing so, as required by our laws. http://www.eastgippsland.net.au/?q=campaigns/brown_mountain/court_documents McCormack talked about the process of having it described too, so that's in the transcript if you'd like a read. (I should look over it again). No idea which scientific journal it will be published in or how it will be licensed. And I believe this page shows a photo of the crayfish, though it's labeled Endangered Orbost Spiny Cray: http://www.greenlivingpedia.org/Brown_Mountain_old_growth_forest Peter. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:42 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for raising some more possibilities Peter. [[VicForests]] doesn't exist, and is only mentioned four times on English Wikipedia. The court case also has enough coverage in RS to be notable in its own right; it does sound like a landmark decision. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/environmentalists-hail-court-win-20100811-11zgj.html http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/prosecution-withdrawn-20100812-121iz.html Do we know where the description of the Brown Mountain crayfish is going to be published? A google search for that name turns up only one page: [[User:Pengo/missing]]! ;-) Can we talk to the discoverer? It would be lovely if it was published in a CC journal, like [[w:ZooKeys]], which has a partnership with EOL and Wikispecies, so the images can be used on Wikipedia immediately. Otherwise we could ask the discoverer to consider releasing some images under a CC license. I'm footloose in Brisbane this week, with two nephews to entertain. If anyone wants some photos of animals in a zoo somewhere in SE Qld, let me know and I should be able to grab them and upload them in October. btw, we don't have a Wikipedia nav template for Zoos; the closest is [[List_of_zoos#Australia]]. That is another task for October ;-) -- John Vandenberg On 9/20/10, Peter Halasz qub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A recent supreme court case was fought around a number of endangered species in Victoria. I don't know how many of them have specimens in zoos, but I was hoping to find some time to try to find out and get some shots and video. The two main charismatic ones are: - the spot-tailed quoll (aka tiger quoll) - the long-footed potoroo Other important species that played roles in the recent court case (Environment East Gippsland v VicForests) are: giant burrowing frog, large brown tree frog (Litoria littlejohni), Sooty Owl, Powerful Owl, Greater Glider, Square-tailed kite, Orbost spiny crayfish, Brown Mountain crayfish (newly discovered, and still in the process of being described...this last one definitely won't be at zoos), Other topics of interest include: hollow bearing trees, as many of our endangered species rely on tree hollows either for shelter or for prey (or both). I've started [[tree hollow]], but it could use a boost; and Australia's logging industry which is both a major threat to endangered species and also may play a role in conservation as they move to plantation-based production: e.g. the major deal in Tasmania happening right now, which may see the end of native forest logging in Tasmania (also home to Tiger Quolls), and there's some talk of a similar deal in Victoria. The tiger quoll in particular could use some new images, and can probably be found at zoos? It's mainland Australia's largest carnivore marsupial and is the mainland population is particularly endangered. Chris Belcher has a good write up about them and their current status here: http://eastgippsland.net.au/files/Spot-tailed_quoll_Belcher_December_2009.pdf I think we should be capable of taking some
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Zootober
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:42 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: btw, we don't have a Wikipedia nav template for Zoos; the closest is [[List_of_zoos#Australia]]. That is another task for October ;-) A new article with a lot of red links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_zoos_in_Australia And here is another: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatened_fauna_of_Australia I've created a page on meta where we can put our ideas, record our achievements, etc. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia/Zootober_2010 -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Zootober
Hi John, I like the idea of having an article about the Brown Mountain crayfish before it's even formally described :) The transcript of the Environment East Gippsland v VicForests court case is online, and it includes testimony and a survey/report from Rob McCormack (Day 8), who's one of the discoverers of the crayfish. Originally it was thought to be an Orbost spiny crayfish, but VicForests disagreed, saying you couldn't tell from the photo and it was probably a more common species. So the environmentalists had another look and it turned out to be an undiscovered species. The outcome of the case is that VicForests has been found to be failing to do animal surveys before logging (largely they have done none at all), and must now show that they are doing so, as required by our laws. http://www.eastgippsland.net.au/?q=campaigns/brown_mountain/court_documents McCormack talked about the process of having it described too, so that's in the transcript if you'd like a read. (I should look over it again). No idea which scientific journal it will be published in or how it will be licensed. And I believe this page shows a photo of the crayfish, though it's labeled Endangered Orbost Spiny Cray: http://www.greenlivingpedia.org/Brown_Mountain_old_growth_forest Peter. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:42 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for raising some more possibilities Peter. [[VicForests]] doesn't exist, and is only mentioned four times on English Wikipedia. The court case also has enough coverage in RS to be notable in its own right; it does sound like a landmark decision. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/environmentalists-hail-court-win-20100811-11zgj.html http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/prosecution-withdrawn-20100812-121iz.html Do we know where the description of the Brown Mountain crayfish is going to be published? A google search for that name turns up only one page: [[User:Pengo/missing]]! ;-) Can we talk to the discoverer? It would be lovely if it was published in a CC journal, like [[w:ZooKeys]], which has a partnership with EOL and Wikispecies, so the images can be used on Wikipedia immediately. Otherwise we could ask the discoverer to consider releasing some images under a CC license. I'm footloose in Brisbane this week, with two nephews to entertain. If anyone wants some photos of animals in a zoo somewhere in SE Qld, let me know and I should be able to grab them and upload them in October. btw, we don't have a Wikipedia nav template for Zoos; the closest is [[List_of_zoos#Australia]]. That is another task for October ;-) -- John Vandenberg On 9/20/10, Peter Halasz qub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A recent supreme court case was fought around a number of endangered species in Victoria. I don't know how many of them have specimens in zoos, but I was hoping to find some time to try to find out and get some shots and video. The two main charismatic ones are: - the spot-tailed quoll (aka tiger quoll) - the long-footed potoroo Other important species that played roles in the recent court case (Environment East Gippsland v VicForests) are: giant burrowing frog, large brown tree frog (Litoria littlejohni), Sooty Owl, Powerful Owl, Greater Glider, Square-tailed kite, Orbost spiny crayfish, Brown Mountain crayfish (newly discovered, and still in the process of being described...this last one definitely won't be at zoos), Other topics of interest include: hollow bearing trees, as many of our endangered species rely on tree hollows either for shelter or for prey (or both). I've started [[tree hollow]], but it could use a boost; and Australia's logging industry which is both a major threat to endangered species and also may play a role in conservation as they move to plantation-based production: e.g. the major deal in Tasmania happening right now, which may see the end of native forest logging in Tasmania (also home to Tiger Quolls), and there's some talk of a similar deal in Victoria. The tiger quoll in particular could use some new images, and can probably be found at zoos? It's mainland Australia's largest carnivore marsupial and is the mainland population is particularly endangered. Chris Belcher has a good write up about them and their current status here: http://eastgippsland.net.au/files/Spot-tailed_quoll_Belcher_December_2009.pdf I think we should be capable of taking some points out of the document for Wikipedia and getting some new shots of quolls, and improving some of the other articles. If anyone wants to organise a trip to any of Melbourne's zoos, I'm in. Also, despite being the photographer for the Leadbeater's Possum single pic on Wikipedia, I'd really love to see it replaced with a photo of one which wasn't stuffed. Leadbeater's Possum is Victoria's faunal emblem (and is highly endangered). Peter Halasz User:Pengo ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Zootober
Nice one :-) Another possibility is asking a zoo to pick an animal or species that they're actively invlolved in conservation work with - to improve biological articles about thee endangered species (for which the zoo should have good references for). I know that Melbourne Zoo has a recently born elephant cub [or is 'calf' the correct term?] that might be a good reason to focus on that species. -Liam On 20/09/2010, at 12:51, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: October is Zootober. http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov.au/articles/zoo/ Is anyone involved in an Australian zoo? If so, how can we help? Wikimedians could go to Australian zoos armed with camera's, and we could create a Commons page including our images collected in October. Or we could improve the Wikipedia articles about Australian zoos... Any other ideas? -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Zootober
On 9/20/10, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: ps. is the small grants program still in effect? I presume so; if not, please assume that any sensible project will be considered by the committee, via this grant scheme or another approach. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Zootober
On 9/20/10, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: were I to contact a vague associate at Taronga and perhaps discuss the possibility of them hosting a wiki meetup and perhaps have a small 'get to know each other' type discussion / session a la GLAM - could I be so bold as to mention WMAU as part of the proposal? I'd like to say something like 'we from Wikimedia Australia would like to organise something like this' - I'm hoping that my role as simply a member sufficiently empowers me to take such initiatives? Roll over GLAM, WIZOO! here we come. I doubt we could achieve anything even vaguely resembling GLAM in October. A Backstage Pass to any zoo would be great, and is more achievable. http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Backstage_pass Feel free to get the ball rolling with Toronga Zoo. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l