I think Big Data is like a car, a very useful way to go places fast, but
still needs a person in charge.


Kerry

 

 

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From: wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Everton
Zanella Alvarenga
Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2013 12:12 AM
To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities
Cc: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org; Mailing
list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia.
Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] "Big data" benefits and limitations
(relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices)

 

Dear Pine,

 

thank you for sharing these links. I cannot read everything now, but one of
these warticles was also recommended by a friend, Sure,
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/technology/big-data-is-great-but-dont-for
get-intuition.html?_r=1&>  Big Data Is Great. But So Is Intuition., by Steve
Lohr, that reminded me a case in Brazil which avoided previous mistakes,
that was a collaborative
<http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/11/brazil-recruiting-and-partnership-with
-the-community-moves-forward/>  process of hiring a consultant for the WMF
programs in Brazil, i. e., the community was listened. (See the full
discussion that resulted in a better process here
<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.brazil/161>, although it
still can improve.)

 

"It’s encouraging that thoughtful data scientists like Ms. Perlich and Ms.
Schutt recognize the limits and shortcomings of the Big Data technology that
they are building. Listening to the data is important, they say, but so is
experience and intuition. After all, what is intuition at its best but large
amounts of data of all kinds filtered through a human brain rather than a
math model?"

 

As Alexandre <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.brazil/358>
Abdo pointed out in this not so old discussion, we, the Brazilian community,
were being handled as "consummated facts", and the community experience and
intuition was not being taken into account as it could - although I must
tell a lot of efforts were done in this direction. I hope a lesson was
/learned/ and this can help to the direction the organization is taking with
its grantmaking and learnings. :)

 

This also reminds me that there is no mathematical model that explains now
(maybe there never will...) the kind of system Wikimedia projects deal with
and sometimes lovely graphics and data interpretations are assumed as
scientific statements, regardless of their scientifically underpinnings. 

 

Have a good year,

 

Tom

 

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:26 AM, ENWP Pine <deyntest...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm sending this to Wikimedia-l, Wikitech-l, and Research-l in case other
people in the Wikimedia movement or staff are interested in "big data" as it
relates to Wikimedia. I hope that those who are interested in discussions
about WMF editor engagement efforts, WMF fundraising, or WMF HR practices
will also find that this email interests them. Feel free to skip straight to
the links in the latter portion of this email if you're already familiar
with "big data" and its analysis and if you just want to see what other
people are writing about the subject.

* Introductory comments / my personal opinion

"Big data" refers to large quantities of information that are so large that
they are difficult to analyze and may not be related internally in an
obvious way. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_data

I think that most of us would agree that moving much of an organization's
information into "the Cloud", and/or directing people to analyze massive
quantities of information, will not automatically result in better, or even
good, decisions based on that information. Also, I think that most of us
would agree that bigger and/or more accessible quantities of data does not
necessarily imply that the data are more accurate or more relevant for a
particular purpose. Another concern is the possibility of unwelcome
intrusions into sensitive information, including the possibility of data
breaches; imagine the possible consequences if a hacker broke into
supposedly secure databases held by Facebook or the Securities and Exchange
Commission.

We have an enormous quantity of data on Wikimedia projects, and many ways
that we can examine those data. As this  Dilbert strip points out, context
is important, and looking at statistics devoid of their larger contexts can
be problematic. http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1993-02-07/

Since data analysis is also something that Wikipedia does in the areas I
mentioned previously, I'm passing along a few links for those who may be
interested about the benefits and limitations of big data.

* Links: 

>From the Harvard Business Review
http://hbr.org/2012/04/good-data-wont-guarantee-good-decisions/ar/1


>From the New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/technology/big-data-is-great-but-dont-for
get-intuition.html
and
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/sunday-review/big-datas-impact-in-the-wor
ld.html


>From the Wall Street Journal. This may be especially interesting to those
who are participating in the discussions on Wikimedia-l regarding how
Wikimedia selects, pays, and manages its staff.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443890304578006252019616768.ht
ml


And from English Wikipedia (:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_data
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_intelligence


Cheers,

Pine


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