Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Só se enforcam com isso... Mas então, o Vini tu que é o 24 né? Ficou inseguro e não falou? \o/ vc fez no mesmo minuto que eu. Ou é 26 ou 24 :P 2013/1/4 Jonas Xavier jonas@gmail.com O pessoal do WikiTravel desfez a tua ediçao :P reclamaram de fazer propaganda de sites concorrentes. On Friday, 4 January 2013, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: Que coisa ridícula essa internet Brand, não deixam eu usar a palavra WikiVoyage no Wikitravel, mas consegui fazer o anúncio lá http://wikitravel.org/pt/Wikitravel:Bar_dos_viajantes#WikilVlOlYlAlGlE On 4 January 2013 02:42, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com wrote: De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho. 2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação, eles ( em verdade o MF-Warburg) começaram essa leva de importações por nós... Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro a segunda :P On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes victordalo...@gmail.com wrote: Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo! 2013/1/3 Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org achei: Número de identificação:28 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org wrote: como vcs sabem o número de usuário? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org wrote: Parabéns! Muito bom! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but yo -- @Jonas_agx http://twitter.com/jonas_agx ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Que coisa ridícula essa internet Brand, não deixam eu usar a palavra WikiVoyage no Wikitravel, mas consegui fazer o anúncio lá http://wikitravel.org/pt/Wikitravel:Bar_dos_viajantes#WikilVlOlYlAlGlE On 4 January 2013 02:42, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com wrote: De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho. 2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação, eles ( em verdade o MF-Warburghttps://pt.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Utilizador:MF-Warburg) começaram essa leva de importações por nós... Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro a segunda :P On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes victordalo...@gmail.com wrote: Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo! 2013/1/3 Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org achei: Número de identificação:28 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.orgwrote: como vcs sabem o número de usuário? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Parabéns! Muito bom! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
O pessoal do WikiTravel desfez a tua ediçao :P reclamaram de fazer propaganda de sites concorrentes. On Friday, 4 January 2013, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: Que coisa ridícula essa internet Brand, não deixam eu usar a palavra WikiVoyage no Wikitravel, mas consegui fazer o anúncio lá http://wikitravel.org/pt/Wikitravel:Bar_dos_viajantes#WikilVlOlYlAlGlE On 4 January 2013 02:42, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com wrote: De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho. 2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação, eles ( em verdade o MF-Warburg) começaram essa leva de importações por nós... Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro a segunda :P On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes victordalo...@gmail.com wrote: Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo! 2013/1/3 Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org achei: Número de identificação:28 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org wrote: como vcs sabem o número de usuário? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org wrote: Parabéns! Muito bom! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but yo -- @Jonas_agx http://twitter.com/jonas_agx ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l
[Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers/might/ want to help doing the XML import, depending on how much pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them. Indeed ;-) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Uffa... Até que enfim... \o/ 2013/1/3 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers/might/ want to help doing the XML import, depending on how much pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them. Indeed ;-) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Eu sou o usuário numero 23... Me lembra aquele filme 2013/1/3 Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com Uffa... Até que enfim... \o/ 2013/1/3 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers/might/ want to help doing the XML import, depending on how much pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them. Indeed ;-) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
achei: Número de identificação:28 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org wrote: como vcs sabem o número de usuário? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org wrote: Parabéns! Muito bom! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers/might/ want to help doing the XML import, depending on how much pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them. Indeed ;-) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo! 2013/1/3 Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org achei: Número de identificação:28 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org wrote: como vcs sabem o número de usuário? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Parabéns! Muito bom! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers/might/ want to help doing the XML import, depending on how much pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them. Indeed ;-) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 97 97 18 884 ___ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l ___
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação, eles ( em verdade o MF-Warburghttps://pt.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Utilizador:MF-Warburg) começaram essa leva de importações por nós... Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro a segunda :P On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes victordalo...@gmail.comwrote: Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo! 2013/1/3 Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org achei: Número de identificação:28 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.orgwrote: como vcs sabem o número de usuário? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Parabéns! Muito bom! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers/might/ want to help doing the XML import, depending on how much pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them. Indeed ;-) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l --
Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho. 2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação, eles ( em verdade o MF-Warburghttps://pt.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Utilizador:MF-Warburg) começaram essa leva de importações por nós... Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro a segunda :P On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes victordalo...@gmail.comwrote: Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo! 2013/1/3 Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.org achei: Número de identificação:28 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.orgwrote: como vcs sabem o número de usuário? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro ocas...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Parabéns! Muito bom! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!! TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!! Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde, Uhaaa -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 3 January 2013 18:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through various bureaucratic processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come into existence? More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we have no import tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not do. Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or even write from scratch... so pretty... I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the languages of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt? Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the next semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not exist . I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god! On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users). The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an own subdomain is not immediately created. Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been started on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still be accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ . But there were no users who helped us to check to contents. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versionsis now on Meta, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers/might/ want to help doing the XML import, depending on how much pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them. Indeed ;-)
