Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Analysis of IEP: Quantitative Analysis & Tory Read's Report

2012-01-26 Thread Ashwin Baindur
+1 to Ravi in the gist of all he means

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Ravishankar  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Theo10011  wrote:
>
>> I see Tory responding to end her engagement on the issue, 2-4 days after
>> she started responding on the talk page. I see a total of 4 edits from her
>> this month, on the issue.
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program/Analysis/Independent_Report_from_Tory_Read
>>
>> I left a question for Barry mostly, on the talk page. Do you think it was
>> the right decision to have Tory do this report? If you recall, I mentioned
>> why you didn't chose a community member or even an Indian to do the report
>> about shortcomings of the education program *for India*? maybe in
>> addition to Tory?
>>
>
> I found Tory's report neutral, informative, exhaustive and professional.
> Since this issue involves people from all spheres of Wikipedia movement, I
> feel it is wise that she was chosen to do this to given an objective view.
> We don't need an Indian to analyze this issue.
>
> This was what I tried to allude to earlier- consultants, employees,
>> generally people with paid engagement for a topic, leave after the said
>> term of their engagement. They can not provide the ongoing discussion and
>> engagement a community member can.
>>
>
> Individual community members leave too. But the community exists.
> Similarly, employees and consultants may leave. But, WMF will be there and
> I can see that Barry and others are trying their best to address this issue
> in their official capacity.
>
> Let's please discuss the issues put forward by the report instead of
> discussing how the report itself should have been done. The former is more
> important.
>
> Ravi
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Analysis of IEP: Quantitative Analysis & Tory Read's Report

2012-01-26 Thread Ravishankar
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Theo10011  wrote:

> I see Tory responding to end her engagement on the issue, 2-4 days after
> she started responding on the talk page. I see a total of 4 edits from her
> this month, on the issue.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program/Analysis/Independent_Report_from_Tory_Read
>
> I left a question for Barry mostly, on the talk page. Do you think it was
> the right decision to have Tory do this report? If you recall, I mentioned
> why you didn't chose a community member or even an Indian to do the report
> about shortcomings of the education program *for India*? maybe in
> addition to Tory?
>

I found Tory's report neutral, informative, exhaustive and professional.
Since this issue involves people from all spheres of Wikipedia movement, I
feel it is wise that she was chosen to do this to given an objective view.
We don't need an Indian to analyze this issue.

This was what I tried to allude to earlier- consultants, employees,
> generally people with paid engagement for a topic, leave after the said
> term of their engagement. They can not provide the ongoing discussion and
> engagement a community member can.
>

Individual community members leave too. But the community exists.
Similarly, employees and consultants may leave. But, WMF will be there and
I can see that Barry and others are trying their best to address this issue
in their official capacity.

Let's please discuss the issues put forward by the report instead of
discussing how the report itself should have been done. The former is more
important.

Ravi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Analysis of IEP: Quantitative Analysis & Tory Read's Report

2012-01-26 Thread Barry Newstead
I have responded to the question posed on the talk page [1].  For those
interested in this issue, please join the discussion there.  One of the big
points of feedback from the en:wp community is that too much discussion
happens in places like mailing lists and wikis outside of WP where few
Wikipedians engage. We are responding to this feedback by centering
discussions in open places on WP (while not ignoring the lists by any
means).

Best,
Barry

[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program/Analysis/Independent_Report_from_Tory_Read#Question_to_Barry

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Theo10011  wrote:

> I see Tory responding to end her engagement on the issue, 2-4 days after
> she started responding on the talk page. I see a total of 4 edits from her
> this month, on the issue.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program/Analysis/Independent_Report_from_Tory_Read
>
> I left a question for Barry mostly, on the talk page. Do you think it was
> the right decision to have Tory do this report? If you recall, I mentioned
> why you didn't chose a community member or even an Indian to do the report
> about shortcomings of the education program *for India*? maybe in
> addition to Tory?
>
> This was what I tried to allude to earlier- consultants, employees,
> generally people with paid engagement for a topic, leave after the said
> term of their engagement. They can not provide the ongoing discussion and
> engagement a community member can.
>
> I brought this exact issue up when this was first announced.
>
> Regards
> Theo
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
>
>> FYI:
>>
>> Discussions on talk pages
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program/Analysis/Independent_Report_from_Tory_Read
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program/Analysis/Quantitative_Analysis
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Anirudh Bhati
>>
>> +855 975 529 803
>> Skype: anirudhsbh
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Hisham  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:10 AM, sankarshan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the planned schedule/calendar for the IEP available ? One that puts
>>> dates to specific phases of the exercise.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not currently, Sankarshan.  Once we start the work of designing a new
>>> pilot - taking into account the learnings from the Pune Pilot.  This will
>>> have detailed schedule calendar.
>>>
>>> hisham
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] FeaturedFeeds deployed

2012-01-26 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hello all,

This makes the "featured content" available and share-able in more machine
readable format and also gives many possibilities.

1. Blogs / Websites can now carry content feeds from Wikipedia /
WikiProjects
2. Feeds can be posted automatically to facebook pages to share featured
content socially.
3. Mobile and apps (but untill fonts / rendering is fixed, it might not be
as much useful)

I just tried to pull up "On This Day" content from Tamil Wikipedia onto my
blog with a widget, it was just matter of few minutes to make it
happen. Please share this with content websites and if they are interested
in giving us some space, please take this forward. Let me know if you need
help in setting up these for your wiki's.

This will however be fruitful only if featured content gets
generated consistently. You might also want to read more about importance
of Front Page content(in Tamil Wiki Community) here[1]

Regards,
Srikanth L

[1]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Submissions/The_Evolution_and_Importance_of_the_Main_Page_in_Tamil_Wikipedia

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From: Max Semenik 
Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 18:36
Subject: [Wikitech-l] FeaturedFeeds deployed
To: Wikimedia developers 


Yesterday we deployed FeaturedFeeds[1] to the cluster (thanks,
Arthur!) Everything looks good so far, examples of feeds: [2], [3].

We haven't enabled feed links in the sidebar like on our staging wiki
at [4] - I wonder if we should enable them on opt-in or opt-out basis.

Overall, I'd apreciate your critics, comments, suggestions. Also,
please assist your local communities in seting up their feeds, especially
if you know less common languages.

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[1]
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/26/featuredfeeds-brings-syndication-feeds-of-featured-wikimedia-content/
[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=featuredfeed&feed=featured&feedformat=atom
[3]
https://it.wikiquote.org/w/api.php?action=featuredfeed&feed=qotd&feedformat=atom
[4] http://mobile-feeds.wmflabs.org/w/index.php/Main_Page

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 Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Odia Wikipedia celebrates 8th birthday!

2012-01-26 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Dear All,

Odia Wikipedia (http://or.wikipedia.org) is celebrating its 8th birthday on
29 Jan 2012. On this occasion Odia Wikipedians across the country are
gathering up to celebrate this occasion.

Venues for meetups in different places:

Cuttack (http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MCTC6) - 29 Jan 2012, 10.30 AM
Image Institute of Technology & Management, IITM Campus, Upper Telenga
Bazar(River Side), Near Purighat Police Station, Cuttack-753 002, Odisha,
India

Delhi (http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MDEL1) - 29 Jan 2012, 10.30 AM
Top Floor, G-15, Behind Hauz Khas G-Block Market (NOT Main Hauz Khas
Market), New Delhi - 110016

Bangalore (Tentative) - 29 Jan 2012, 10.30 AM
The Centre for Internet and Society, No. 194, 2nd 'C' Cross, 4th Main,
Domlur 2nd Stage, Opposite to Domlur Club, Bangalore 560 071

The details of all the celebrations can be checked at
http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORWP8

Interested people for Odia Wikipedia are all welcome to join us celebrate
this event in any of these above locaions. We will be available for a
skype/Google hangout as well (Skype: psubhashish)

Best
Subha
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