Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] interesting news

2013-03-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
While this is not, per se, a subject directly for this list, I feel that as
many Wikimedians as possible ought to appreciate the subtle establishment
of hegemony here.

ICANN is an independent body, true, but it has been seen in the past to act
in favour of US interests, in case of significant conflict of interest. For
good reason, many people opine that continuing effort needs to be made to
maintain the nature of the Web (the whole Net, actually, but most people
really don't perceive anything beyond the Web) and not allow governments to
acquire control. Worryingly, the interests of governments and private
sector corporations are also being seen as aligned, although it is very
clear that corporate control is in the hands of a very small number of
individuals (ref an analysis published in New Scientist last year, 155
individuals effectively control the 48,000 top global corporations).

This was recently quite naked, with an ITU meeting in Dubai where an effort
was made to hand over control of ICANN to a governing body drawn from the
diplomatic corps of 55 countries.

This move was evidently authored, behind the scenes, by India, hence my
raising it here.

Now that ICANN has made its move to establish a framework for the
other-than-English Web, we see that the Indian government is playing God
(DeITy, the official acronym of the department of electronics) in terms of
controlling the transitional phase. Some listmembers will recall this same
department, a dozen years ago, did nothing to cut access costs until
presented with NIXI, the switch that is supposed to keep local traffic
local, which it simply annexed, without even a show of hands, or a flag
march, the way that traditional takeovers of territory used to be
accomplished. Incidentally, this switch still does precious little to keep
local traffic local, and is instead used primarily for surveillance of
Indian IP users, and to facilitate website blocking. It has a second job,
the registrar for tld .in, and here too, there are concerns about its
functioning (e.g., the domain iipm.in is apparently registered with a false
declaration of physical address, but no action has been taken against the
owner. Indeed, some 60 odd urls were blocked at this same outfit's behest a
few weeks back, despite the fact that the accompanying court order was very
likely mala fide – one of the urls was a page of the UGC website, for
instance).

As Wikimedians, we face some struggle to ensure our rights are not
constrained, especially the right to freedom of expression and its obverse,
freedom of information.

While it is great to know that some effort will be made to ensure Indian
content creators will now have a straightforward way to bring people to
Indian-language pages, I question how much effort has been made and is
being made on the ground. For instance, to what extent has the team
building the Android uploader been supported, and what is the roadmap to an
Android local language content creation app? I'm not saying nothing has
been done, I'm just saying I don't know, and I would like to hear from our
local players.

Also, I somehow sense a certain amount of arrogance in the remark that Web
creators in Chennai don't know how to use Tamil typing on vanilla
keyboards. Are we to conclude that Tamil websites can only be created in
Chennai? Nobody else anywhere else can use Tamil? That probably wasn't the
intention, but that is how it comes across.

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On Mar 9, 2013 11:17 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in wrote:


 http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/internet/soon-the-web-will-have-bharat-in-local-languages/article4485576.ece?ref=sliderNews

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Appointment of new SIG chair

2013-03-09 Thread Vishnu t
Congratulations, Rohini!

Best,
Vishnu


On 9 March 2013 11:45, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice! Congratulations, Rohini, and look forward to more wiki women
 workshops and other related stuff.

 Best
 Bishakha


 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
 sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats Rohini!!

 All the best wishes to you!!

 Regards
 -Sudhanwa


 On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Rohini Lakshané
 rohini.laksh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thank you everyone for giving me this opportunity -- those who voted
 for me,
  Krutikaa and Netha who nominated me, and the members of the EC who
 conducted
  the election process.
 
  On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
  srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote:
 
  Heya, this is inform you that Rohini Lakshane has been appointed as
  the chair of the Gender-gap SIG. This was the first nomination for an
  SIG chair where there were other candidates, in this case Pavithra H.
  Rohini was nominated and seconded by Krutikaa Jawanjal and Netha
  Hussain, and got 20 votes in her favour, the highest in any Wikimedia
  India voting process, beating Karthik's record of 19 votes in
  September 2012. Rohini can be contacted on roh...@wikimedia.in
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The man who edited Tamil Wikipedia from prison.

2013-03-09 Thread ansuman
Thanks for sharing!

Regards,
Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um
*ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ http://or.wikipedia.org/*


On 9 March 2013 10:43, Rahmanuddin Shaik nani1o...@gmail.com wrote:

 Truly inspiring story. Thank you for sharing Ravi.

 On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to share this real life story of a man who edited Tamil
 wikipedia from prison !

 Meet Muthukrishnan ( http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/fcl ) from Malaysia. He
 is a retired school teacher and writer. He uses most of his spare time for
 writing detailed articles about Malaysia and Tamils in Malaysia. He is so
 involved in Wikipedia that once he personally visited the grave of a
 personality to write an article on him !

 Few weeks back, he was arrested by the Malaysian police on a case that
 challenged his freedom of expression for an article he wrote in a magazine
 (just to make it clear that he didn't create a real crime to land in
 prison). He was out of the prison in couple of days.

 What touched me a lot was that he provided an update in his wiki user
 page that he is in prison and that he will be back soon! He used the laptop
 of his grand daughter who visited him in the prison and made this edit
 under the supervision of the prison guards !

 He sees his contributions to Wikipedia as his lifetime work beyond the
 search for survival and wealth. He calls his 12 year old grand daughter as
 his inspiration to keep writing in Wikipedia.

 Can people be so dedicated to a movement ? !

 Do you have such stories in your project that inspire you? It is time to
 share, inspire and infuse new blood in the movement !

 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology

2013-03-09 Thread Arun Ramarathnam
Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
wikipedians mentioned in the article.

Interesting to note the article mention the following...

*When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for anyone,
and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a template to
delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more supportive” and
encourage those who step in to what is surely a male-dominated world of
code.
*

Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling
the pages down. Or is  it the case of experienced editors being less
tolerant and not encouraging to most  new editors irrespective of their
gender. I believe it more often than not the second.

To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was
another Women's
Wikipedia 
workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash  was working with a new lady
editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini
Nayakhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak.
This was being shown on a  projector for the rest of the lady participants
to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a
Speedy Delete notice on a  page that had no grounds for it. At best one
could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.

We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time getting
on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know we have
very few women editors. But we ought to be careful  to not project this as
a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may not be the
case).

Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
too).

For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised by
many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!

We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive and
to be careful not to
*Bite*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
{{this is a new userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:This_is_a_new_user
}} that new users can sport on their user pages.

Have a good weekend everyone!

regards
Arun



On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote:

 Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.


 http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true

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 Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
 Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
 of Science (CCS-IISc)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology

2013-03-09 Thread swetapadma d. satpathy
A very good read and truly written.

Regards,
Swetapadma


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
 wikipedians mentioned in the article.

 Interesting to note the article mention the following...

 *When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
 editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
 anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
 template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
 supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
 male-dominated world of code.
 *

 Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling
 the pages down. Or is  it the case of experienced editors being less
 tolerant and not encouraging to most  new editors irrespective of their
 gender. I believe it more often than not the second.

 To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another 
 Women's
 Wikipedia 
 workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
  in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash  was working with a new lady
 editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini 
 Nayakhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak.
 This was being shown on a  projector for the rest of the lady participants
 to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a
 Speedy Delete notice on a  page that had no grounds for it. At best one
 could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.

 We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time getting
 on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know we have
 very few women editors. But we ought to be careful  to not project this as
 a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may not be the
 case).

 Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
 news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
 too).

 For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised by
 many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
 Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
 capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!

 We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
 and to be careful not to  
 *Bite*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
 new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
 {{this is a new userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:This_is_a_new_user
 }} that new users can sport on their user pages.

 Have a good weekend everyone!

 regards
 Arun



 On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote:

 Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.


 http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true

 --
 Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
 Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
 (HEIRA)
 Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
 Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
 Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
 of Science (CCS-IISc)

 t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
 f: 91-80-26730722
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