Wonderful set of pictures. Kudos to every one participated! On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Theo10011 <de10...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There is actually very little that is as disappointing as people who never > did the work, complaining about people who actually did. I don't recall any > previous organization of WLM from you or the chapter in the last year. It > is easy to nitpick an incoming batch of young volunteers, doing something > for the first time, it is harder to actually do something. I didn't have > the time or the energy to take this up, neither did you, but I won't > criticize them now over trivial matters on an announcement email. > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala > <arjunar...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >>> I'm not sure how familiar you are with WLM. But if you look on the >>> commons page for the winners[1], a large majority of them are redlinks with >>> next to no information about real names and locations of photographers. I >>> believe the competition has more to do with the pictures themselves than >>> the photographers. Some of the winners created their account for the sole >>> purpose of uploading the pics, some chose their names, some didn't. It is >>> their right if they choose to not declare their real name and location. >>> Putting this information on commons without their permission, can be >>> tantamount to WP:OUTING[2] and against the Wikimedia privacy policy. >>> >> >> I very much am involved with WLM and also know the policies. You seem to >> have missed some mails on this topic from me. >> > > Ah, I must have forgotten the time you organized WLM in the past. Lucky > for you, all mails are archived[1]. Why don't you go ahead and find it? I > only see a single relevant email from you in the last year mentioning the > IRC meeting time related to WLM and other business. I wasn't talking about > WLM policy, just general privacy policy, which would require that > information oversighted on en.wp, and commons, and the offender warned in > most cases. > > >> >> BTW, this is just not a virtual world event as there is lot of prize >> money at stake. I am not advocating that Karthik share the real names >> without contacting the winners. If my mail was not clear in that aspect, I >> am sorry. >> >> > Yes, it wasn't clear. You are not just haranguing what might be, a small > oversight publicly, which is really supportive of these new office bearers. > > >>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala <arjunar...@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Disappointed that there are no user pages or information on background >>>> of contributors of winning entries. >>>> >>> >>> Let's try and contain the disappointment, shall we? ;) This was a big >>> initiative taken by such a young group of volunteers. They deserve to >>> lauded for their achievement. The information about the individual >>> photographer is rarely a priority during these initiatives. >>> >> Sorry to disagree. As mentioned, this is just not a pure virtual world >> event. Once we know the winning photographs, there is a curiosity to know >> the author/photographers of the award winning entries. >> > > Apparently, you seem to be the only one with this burning curiosity. > Actually to correct you again, it is not a "pure virtual world event", in > most countries, it had photo-walks, local cultural institute partnerships, > sponsors, promotion, juries, and yes, prizes among other things. (Beh, > clarify here please!) As I mentioned before it's a photo contest, not a > photographer contest. > > >> Also after spending quite a lot of effort and money, there are more >> expectations on leveraging this for the movement. May be some of these >> people will become passionate Wikimedians and start initiatives to improve >> media about India. >> > > Yes, and they are answerable to you? Anyway, I must be missing where your > criticism fills the gap and inspires them. > > >> Hope the winners will take action to update their pages soon so that >>>> the community knows bit about them and their passion for >>>> Photography/monuments and their approach towards the contest and also few >>>> words about their winning entry. >>>> >>> >>> If they choose to mention those details, sure. They don't have to do >>> anything, like the majority of winners from other countries. >>> >> Agreed. Again there is an opportunity for India to be different while >> respecting the policies. That is the focus of my message. >> > > It's not. > > You actually just seemed petty, this all might have just been an oversight > on the organizer's part, which you could have mentioned to Karthik and > others in private, and they would have corrected. Instead, you nitpicked on > a public list to a group of 20 year old (Karthik I think is even younger), > for something, let's face it, that you, I and others, were too busy or lazy > to organize ourselves. > > -Theo > > P.S. 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