[Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

2011-12-15 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

Attention : Indic communities using Narayam extension. Other Indic
communities which don't have Narayam please do read below, I have a note
for you too

As of now Malayalam,Tamil,Odiya,Sanskrit,Assamese,Sinhala communities use
Narayam. Narayam is also deployed on Commons. Most of the communities had
got the extension few months back, but there have
been consistent improvements / bug fixes. Looks like people are not aware
of those changes and started asking Shiju where can they know more.I am
writing on 2 major things that was done to Narayam recently because of the
bugs we(Tamil community) filed and fixes for them had caused an
overall impact.

Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut
key is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut
works. Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done
during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)

Beta maps :- Refer bug[2] for details, in summary, if you have seen more
input methods previously and started seeing lesser methods in last couple
of days, its probably because of this. We did not want untested keyboard
mappings live on WikiProjects. Beta maps will enable people to test newly
added maps(bunch of inscript maps were added as part of Hackathon /
Translation sprint) to be tested on translatewiki, only after a community
member certifies it, it will be seen in wikimedia sites. This was done last
week.

There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so
If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].

i18n team,
Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a
feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something
relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any
regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has
the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will
help and save much time for many folks.

To those communities who have not taken up Narayam and use old javascript
solution :-
The Javascript solution is not an ideal one now, though it served the
purpose when it was built. Narayam is supported better / technically
superior and as an extension is fairly stable. Unlike webfonts, Narayam
will be deployed only if someone asks for and that should be the way..You
can test through http://translatewiki.net report bugs(Ideally
narayam  shouldn't have bugs since Junaid took the maps which already
existed in typing solution), get things fixed, call for
community consensus and getting them deployed. I also request Shiju (who
keeps interacting with various communities, to give a push on this to Indic
wikipedians)

To those communities which don't have any input method solution :-
Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team
will help you get Narayam.

[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31026
[2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32768
[3]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?component=Narayamproduct=MediaWiki%20extensionsquery_format=advancedtitle=Bug%20List%3A%20Narayam%20bugsctype=atomlist_id=65646

-- 
Regards
Srikanth.L
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

2011-12-15 Thread Santhosh Thottingal
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:
 Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key
 is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works.
 Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon.
 //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)

Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before
that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m.

 There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so
 If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].

 i18n team,
 Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a
 feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something
 relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any
 regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has
 the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will
 help and save much time for many folks.


We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two
days before deployment.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n

Gerard blogs about the deployment , see
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and
he plans to do this blog post for every deployment.

If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can
follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg:
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWikipath=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWebFonts
gives all the code changes happened in webfonts.

I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes
every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the
code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the
changes for an extension/component

Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at
this tag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy

 To those communities which don't have any input method solution :-
 Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team
 will help you get Narayam.

Happy to help.

-Santhosh

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

2011-12-15 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 14:14, Santhosh Thottingal 
santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote:

 We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two
 days before deployment.
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n


This should help, Thanks.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

2011-12-15 Thread Shiju Alex

 I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes
 every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the
 code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the
 changes for an extension/component


That is true. Community is definitely NOT interested to know the technical
details of all the updates.

But these type of changes (like the change in shortcut key) which affect
the typing habit of users needs to be communicated to commuity (here Indic
wikimedians), at least in this list.

How you know


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Santhosh Thottingal 
santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut
 key
  is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut
 works.
  Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon.
  //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)

 Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before
 that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m.

  There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing,
 so
  If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].
 
  i18n team,
  Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a
  feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if
 something
  relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any
  regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has
  the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will
  help and save much time for many folks.


 We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two
 days before deployment.
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n

 Gerard blogs about the deployment , see
 http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and
 he plans to do this blog post for every deployment.

 If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can
 follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg:

 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWikipath=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWebFonts
 gives all the code changes happened in webfonts.

 I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes
 every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the
 code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the
 changes for an extension/component

 Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at
 this tag:
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy

  To those communities which don't have any input method solution :-
  Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team
  will help you get Narayam.

 Happy to help.

 -Santhosh

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