Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)
> > Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju) > perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article > quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a > conversation with Erik about this. > This report is a subset of the report that is already available at http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/Sitemap.htm But it is real pain to filter and take the information of only those languages that we want (in our case, it is Indian language wikis). In fact I was preparing my monthly report like that only (using the above link) for the past 3 years. When I went to Gdansk to attend Wikimania 2010, I met Erik Zachte and we discussed various topics related to his wonderful site and statistical reports. During discussion, I mentioned the about the above issue with him. This special report for Indian languages came out as a result of that conversation with Erik. He published a post regarding this at http://infodisiac.com/blog/2010/11/wikipedia-reports-filtered-by-region/ I am happy that he remembered my request and implemented it. Article quality, page views, edits per article, number of active users, and so on are part of this new report also. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/Sitemap.htm Shiju On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Achal Prabhala wrote: > This is invaluable - thank you Erik, and thanks Gerard for bringing it to > attention. > > Erik, I know that you report geographic trends on EN on the main stats > page, is there any way you can easily and comprehensibly integrate India > edits and readership to EN on the India page? That would be very helpful, > esp. as it probably dominates all other Indian languages currently (and > since English is an official Indian language too). > > Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju) > perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article > quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a > conversation with Erik about this. > > Good wishes, > Achal > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Performing Indic Wikipedias
Hi, Based on Erik's Indic Wiki stats, I did an analysis for reach of Indic Wikipedias. Wikis having at least 1000 views an hour and 1 Million population were taken for this. Page views per article per hour indicates the overall usefulness of articles. Page views per million speakers indicates the reach of Wiki and also normalises the ranking by page view ( For example, Tamil has roughly 1/8th of Hindi speaking population but has more than half its traffic) The results can be seen at http://bit.ly/gdH21O Malayalam and Tamil Wikis are performing comparably and have a higher reach. Hindi and Bengali which have a huge population seem to have lesser reach. I hope Indic Wikimedia strategy will consider such analyses and focus to have a better return on their efforts and not mislead by plain article count and page views. Regards, Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)
Good work Shiju, Erik. Do we have such region wise stats for other Wikimedia projects like Wiki source, Wiktionary also? That will be helpful too. Regards, Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Performing Indic Wikipedias
On 24/11/10 6:29 PM, Ravishankar wrote: Hi, Based on Erik's Indic Wiki stats, I did an analysis for reach of Indic Wikipedias. Wikis having at least 1000 views an hour and 1 Million population were taken for this. Page views per article per hour indicates the overall usefulness of articles. Page views per million speakers indicates the reach of Wiki and also normalises the ranking by page view ( For example, Tamil has roughly 1/8th of Hindi speaking population but has more than half its traffic) The results can be seen at http://bit.ly/gdH21O Malayalam and Tamil Wikis are performing comparably and have a higher reach. Hindi and Bengali which have a huge population seem to have lesser reach. I hope Indic Wikimedia strategy will consider such analyses and focus to have a better return on their efforts and not mislead by plain article count and page views. Regards, Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l I think for the above ranking, rather than the entire population, the educated population should be taken, this will give us a better picture. -Abhishek Kona ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Performing Indic Wikipedias
Different literacy ratios and internet penetration ratios do play a role in these stats. If we need to pursue the goal of "Free knowledge for ALL", then may be we will have to consider more audio / visual content and projects. This is especially relevant if we consider higher mobile phone penetration in India even in rural areas and with uneducated people. Regards, RaviRavi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)
Hoi, Including English on the page for India only makes sense when the traffic is the traffic generated for the English Wikipedia in India. When the other languages have to compete with the world wide audience, the information is not really relevant. Thanks, GerardM On 24 November 2010 08:21, Achal Prabhala wrote: > This is invaluable - thank you Erik, and thanks Gerard for bringing it to > attention. > > Erik, I know that you report geographic trends on EN on the main stats > page, is there any way you can easily and comprehensibly integrate India > edits and readership to EN on the India page? That would be very helpful, > esp. as it probably dominates all other Indian languages currently (and > since English is an official Indian language too). > > Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju) > perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article > quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a > conversation with Erik about this. > > Good wishes, > Achal > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Your session at Filmi Chashma Workshop
Speaking at this tomorrow; came up suddenly. Apart from all else it does, Comet Media Foundation is developing GNUKhata, a free and flexible software for accounting and inventory management. See http://www.cometmedia.org/gnukhata I am in touch with a couple of Pune wikipedians to see if they could do the Dec workshop in Pune referred to below. Bishakha -- Forwarded message -- From: Comet Media Foundation Date: Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:01 PM Subject: Your session at Filmi Chashma Workshop To: Bishakha Datta Dear Bishakha This is further to our telephone talk on Saturday regarding the Filmi Chashma Workshop for school teachers. Please have a look at www.filmichashma.org for an overview of the project To go over the workshop requirements: Your session, scheduled 2.00 to 3.30pm on Thursday 25 Nov, will be on " Intro to the phenomenon of the wiki world, finding what you need in the wiki world and contributing what you know back to it." Beyond the utility of it please bring out the philosophy, the altruism and self-correcting mechanisms and all the things that make it an authentic upto-the-moment encyclopedia. Please also encourage them and their students to contribute to it, particularly in Indian languages. A visit to teh Hindi and Marathi wikipedias would be good. Plus we want you to please address another similar meeting in Pune on 17 Dec at 11.45 to 1.15. Please tell me if you are free to make a trip. The venue as you know, is in the conference room on 6th floor of the Times of India Building opposite VT station. Thank you and looking forward to an exciting time! Chandita ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)
Yes Gerard, I assumed it was obvious that we're talking about India-based traffic and edits to EN - the information is reported on the main stats page, my point was simply that it would be interesting to see in the same table (though we're measuring slightly different things, since the Indian language Wikipedia stats are not based on geographical origin but destination). ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)
While at it, should the title be changed to something more accurate? Since the list includes Nepali (also the official language of Nepal), Bangla (the national language of Bangladesh, a bulk of edits come from there), Tamil (an official language of Sri Lanka, also a source of a significant number of edits), and Sinhala (one of the official languages of Sri Lanka and not spoken in India to my knowledge), shall we expand the list to include the remaining South Asian languages under the title "Wikipedia Statistics - South Asia"? - Sundar "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture > >From: Achal Prabhala >To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 8:03:23 PM >Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :) > >Yes Gerard, I assumed it was obvious that we're talking about India-based >traffic and edits to EN - the information is reported on the main stats page, >my >point was simply that it would be interesting to see in the same table (though >we're measuring slightly different things, since the Indian language Wikipedia >stats are not based on geographical origin but destination). >___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
