Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CIPR story in the Indie

2012-06-29 Thread WereSpielChequers
On 28 June 2012 22:15, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:



 Anybody can edit Wikipedia that's the mantra!

 Gordo


 We have nearly 4 million articles on everything from Aardvaarks to
Zoroastrianism. PR people are welcome to edit almost any of them, just not
the ones that relate to their clients, themselves or their employer, or
compete with any of those or are fully protected. So yes PR people are
welcome and can edit Wikipedia, provided they come here as volunteers and
stay clear of articles where they have a COI.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CIPR story in the Indie

2012-06-29 Thread Gordon Joly

On 29/06/12 08:49, WereSpielChequers wrote:



On 28 June 2012 22:15, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com 
mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:




Anybody can edit Wikipedia that's the mantra!

Gordo


We have nearly 4 million articles on everything from Aardvaarks to 
Zoroastrianism. PR people are welcome to edit almost any of them, just 
not the ones that relate to their clients, themselves or their 
employer, or compete with any of those or are fully protected. So yes 
PR people are welcome and can edit Wikipedia, provided they come here 
as volunteers and stay clear of articles where they have a COI.


WSC



COI? What ATG?



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] University of Hertfordshire Wikipedia workshop 14 August 2012

2012-06-29 Thread Stevie Benton
Hi Daria,

Happy to support this if you need some help from the office. Would also be
a good chance to get out and meet some Wikimedians. Will pop in in my
calendar tentatively.

Thanks,

Stevie

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 Dear all,

 University of Hertfordshire (Hatfield, Hertfordshire, AL10 9AB) has
 contacted Wikimedia UK with a request to have a Wikipedia training run for
 them on Tuesday 14 August, 10am-4pm. There is a group of staff at the
 University that would like to be introduced into the ways of editing
 Wikipedia. This will hopefully in the future lead to a further partnership
 between the University and Wikimedia UK.

 I have created a simple page with the details:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/University_of_Hertfordshire_Wikipedia_workshop

 If you would like to run/help run this session, please do sign up on the
 page or let me know. You can also get in touch if you have any questions.

 Many thanks
 Daria

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[Wikimediauk-l] Process for WMUK's 2013 annual plan?

2012-06-29 Thread Thomas Dalton
Is there a plan in place for how WMUK is going to put together its
2013 annual plan? We need to start work on it very soon.

I see on the agenda for this weekend's meeting that there is an item
for discussing the five year plan (I'm glad that hasn't completely
stalled), but given the delays with it I don't see that being
finalised in time to base the 2013 plan on it. There is also an item
for Draft budget against fundraising target and meeting the 5 year
plan. but I'm not sure what that means.

I think the natural place to start putting together an annual plan,
especially in the absence of a long-term plan to base it on, is with a
public call for ideas. If Sue's recommended timeline for the FDC [1]
gets adopted (and I expect it will), then WMUK will need to submit its
plan on 1 October. That's only 3 months away, so I suggest that call
for ideas go out ASAP.


1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Master_timeline

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for WMUK's 2013 annual plan?

2012-06-29 Thread Jon Davies
Rest assured Tom the trustees have been looking at options and will of
course share their thoughts with the community. The process requires
several stages of thought before we get to a point where we can ask for
suggestions but we are making excellent progress and will soon have lots to
share.

On 29 June 2012 20:21, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a plan in place for how WMUK is going to put together its
 2013 annual plan? We need to start work on it very soon.

 I see on the agenda for this weekend's meeting that there is an item
 for discussing the five year plan (I'm glad that hasn't completely
 stalled), but given the delays with it I don't see that being
 finalised in time to base the 2013 plan on it. There is also an item
 for Draft budget against fundraising target and meeting the 5 year
 plan. but I'm not sure what that means.

 I think the natural place to start putting together an annual plan,
 especially in the absence of a long-term plan to base it on, is with a
 public call for ideas. If Sue's recommended timeline for the FDC [1]
 gets adopted (and I expect it will), then WMUK will need to submit its
 plan on 1 October. That's only 3 months away, so I suggest that call
 for ideas go out ASAP.


 1.
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Master_timeline

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyright of images on 'Britain from the Air' website

2012-06-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
The site says Crown Copyright.

On 26 June 2012 12:24, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I don't think so - I think they're probably still copyrighted to the
 Aerofilms collection...

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 On 26 June 2012 12:10, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 You may have seen a buzz on social media in the last couple of days,
 about a new website, 'Britain from the Air':

    http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/

 which features http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/about-project:

    images from the Aerofilms collection... Dating from 1919 to
 2006... purchased by Royal
    Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland,
 English Heritage
    and the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments
 of Wales... in 2007.

 The site-wide copyright statement, on
 http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/legalities, is somewhat
 ambiguous:

    The images, information and data featured on this website are
 subject to Crown Copyright
    and other Intellectual Property Rights held by the Partners and
 Individual Contributors as
    indicated. There are also copyrights relating to the database
 itself and to the design, structure
    and code employed in the website.

 Has anyone found an image on the site with a copyright notice
 excepting it from the default Crown Copyright?

 Presumably, the use of Crown Copyright means that we're at liberty to
 use images that are over 50 years old,  like this 1928 shot of
 Birmingham:


  http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw022585?search=birminghamref=10

 on Commons and Wikipedia?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyright of images on 'Britain from the Air' website

2012-06-29 Thread Richard Symonds
Not quite - the legalities section says  The images, information and
data featured on this website are subject to Crown Copyright and other
Intellectual Property Rights held by the Partners and Individual
Contributors as indicated.

Bit of a pain, but I suspect that the copyright of most of the image is
murky at best :s

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On 29 June 2012 21:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 The site says Crown Copyright.

 On 26 June 2012 12:24, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
  I don't think so - I think they're probably still copyrighted to the
  Aerofilms collection...
 
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  On 26 June 2012 12:10, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  You may have seen a buzz on social media in the last couple of days,
  about a new website, 'Britain from the Air':
 
 http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/
 
  which features http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/about-project:
 
 images from the Aerofilms collection... Dating from 1919 to
  2006... purchased by Royal
 Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland,
  English Heritage
 and the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments
  of Wales... in 2007.
 
  The site-wide copyright statement, on
  http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/legalities, is somewhat
  ambiguous:
 
 The images, information and data featured on this website are
  subject to Crown Copyright
 and other Intellectual Property Rights held by the Partners and
  Individual Contributors as
 indicated. There are also copyrights relating to the database
  itself and to the design, structure
 and code employed in the website.
 
  Has anyone found an image on the site with a copyright notice
  excepting it from the default Crown Copyright?
 
  Presumably, the use of Crown Copyright means that we're at liberty to
  use images that are over 50 years old,  like this 1928 shot of
  Birmingham:
 
 
 
 http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw022585?search=birminghamref=10
 
  on Commons and Wikipedia?
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyright of images on 'Britain from the Air' website

2012-06-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
As I said in my first mail ;-)

But it does say Crown copyright and... not Crown Copyright or

After Wikimania, I may give them a call to discuss and clarify.

In any case, some, by anonymous photographers, are outside the 75 year barrier.


On 29 June 2012 22:01, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Not quite - the legalities section says  The images, information and data
 featured on this website are subject to Crown Copyright and other
 Intellectual Property Rights held by the Partners and Individual
 Contributors as indicated.

 Bit of a pain, but I suspect that the copyright of most of the image is
 murky at best :s

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 On 29 June 2012 21:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 The site says Crown Copyright.

 On 26 June 2012 12:24, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
  I don't think so - I think they're probably still copyrighted to the
  Aerofilms collection...
 
  Richard Symonds
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  at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer
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  On 26 June 2012 12:10, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  You may have seen a buzz on social media in the last couple of days,
  about a new website, 'Britain from the Air':
 
     http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/
 
  which features http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/about-project:
 
     images from the Aerofilms collection... Dating from 1919 to
  2006... purchased by Royal
     Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland,
  English Heritage
     and the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments
  of Wales... in 2007.
 
  The site-wide copyright statement, on
  http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/legalities, is somewhat
  ambiguous:
 
     The images, information and data featured on this website are
  subject to Crown Copyright
     and other Intellectual Property Rights held by the Partners and
  Individual Contributors as
     indicated. There are also copyrights relating to the database
  itself and to the design, structure
     and code employed in the website.
 
  Has anyone found an image on the site with a copyright notice
  excepting it from the default Crown Copyright?
 
  Presumably, the use of Crown Copyright means that we're at liberty to
  use images that are over 50 years old,  like this 1928 shot of
  Birmingham:
 
 
 
   http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw022585?search=birminghamref=10
 
  on Commons and Wikipedia?
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyright of images on 'Britain from the Air' website

2012-06-29 Thread Roger Bamkin
Andy, we are very pally with Royal Commission on the Ancient and
Historical Monuments of Wales...

I'm encouraging them to release 150 pics that are both in and out of
copyright about copyright. They say they will release much more after this.
I think they will listen to your argument. The experiment shound finish is
3 months.

Should put pressure on rest of UK if this trick comes off

Roger

On 29 June 2012 22:01, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Not quite - the legalities section says  The images, information and
 data featured on this website are subject to Crown Copyright and other
 Intellectual Property Rights held by the Partners and Individual
 Contributors as indicated.

 Bit of a pain, but I suspect that the copyright of most of the image is
 murky at best :s

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 On 29 June 2012 21:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 The site says Crown Copyright.

 On 26 June 2012 12:24, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
  I don't think so - I think they're probably still copyrighted to the
  Aerofilms collection...
 
  Richard Symonds
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  On 26 June 2012 12:10, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  You may have seen a buzz on social media in the last couple of days,
  about a new website, 'Britain from the Air':
 
 http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/
 
  which features http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/about-project:
 
 images from the Aerofilms collection... Dating from 1919 to
  2006... purchased by Royal
 Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland,
  English Heritage
 and the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments
  of Wales... in 2007.
 
  The site-wide copyright statement, on
  http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/legalities, is somewhat
  ambiguous:
 
 The images, information and data featured on this website are
  subject to Crown Copyright
 and other Intellectual Property Rights held by the Partners and
  Individual Contributors as
 indicated. There are also copyrights relating to the database
  itself and to the design, structure
 and code employed in the website.
 
  Has anyone found an image on the site with a copyright notice
  excepting it from the default Crown Copyright?
 
  Presumably, the use of Crown Copyright means that we're at liberty to
  use images that are over 50 years old,  like this 1928 shot of
  Birmingham:
 
 
 
 http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw022585?search=birminghamref=10
 
  on Commons and Wikipedia?
 
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