Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread Thomas Morton
The Telegraph seem to have picked this up...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread Thomas Morton

 the statement below was sent to our members


Was it? My understanding was it was sent to the mailing list, and selected
others.

I did not receive the message independently of that. Not every member is on
the mailing list.

Just a minor point.

Tom

On 31 July 2012 09:29, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 We've just published a response to the story on our blog. You can find
 this here -
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/07/a-response-to-the-daily-telegraph-article/


 If anyone has any comments or questions please do feel free to email
 myself or Jon.

 Kind regards,

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 On 31 July 2012 09:22, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 The Telegraph seem to have picked this up...


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html

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[Wikimediauk-l] New Laptops for events

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Symonds
All,

At the request of a volunteer, we've purchased three more laptops for
events. They're free for any volunteer to take along to events - just ask
us and we'll get them sent to you or the event.

These ones are quite powerful, and relatively lightweight - they're the
same ones that we used at IBM as company laptops. They are extremely robust
- I've seen things happen to them that would make a Mac cry. The laptops
themselves are specced as follows: Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 15, Intel Core
i3-380M processor, 15.6 screen, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD. They have a webcam,
and a card reader, and a dual-layer DVD+-RW drive.

They all come with Windows 7 installed, but it'd be nice if a volunteer
with experience in open-source software came in and got them to dual-boot
with a suitable version of Linux. Any volunteers?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New Laptops for events

2012-07-31 Thread Harry Burt
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 They all come with Windows 7 installed, but it'd be nice if a volunteer
 with experience in open-source software came in and got them to dual-boot
 with a suitable version of Linux. Any volunteers?


Well, without wanting to start a complete firestorm, dualbooting Ubuntu
12.04 (LTS) via Wubi is really very easy indeed for 95% of setups [1].
Depending on your internet package, you might want to use the Download
Ubuntu link in the bottom left, burn it to CD, insert CD, then run Wubi to
avoid downloading Ubuntu three times over.

I did the same only last week, no problems whatsoever.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Derbypedia?

2012-07-31 Thread Roger Bamkin
I am aware. His views are unusual but it seems that here we are looking
for a publicist . and he has the CV for that

I'm not known for my subtelty but Derby needs the guy from V for Vendetta
to explain. Its very busy putting up posters about Derby being the city of
invention with microsoft tags on them ...

TBH they did amend the signs that said they were QR codes 

On 31 July 2012 13:04, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Unfortunate, unless I am reading his article wrong, that he's a bit of a
 quack...

 Tom

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 We had an interesting tour of Derby Saturday run by Richard Felix, who
 seems to be the chief tourism booster in Derby and a real enthusiast.
 See his website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Felix and our
 article on him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Felix

 I mentioned Monmouthpedia and he was fascinated. He also seems to be a
 great fundraiser, and very upset at the lack of plaques on buildings.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] University WiR job description

2012-07-31 Thread Roger Bamkin
Chris, Panyd wrote one for Manchester Uni which I can't trace but Mike Peel
may have a copy of. This may be useful I believe she is still in USA

R

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Derbypedia?

2012-07-31 Thread Doug Weller
He may be a bit of a quack,   he's managed to get quite a few things done.
Here's what he has to say:
http://dialog.newsedge.com/portal.asp?site=2007100814443105593225searchfolderid=pg2007100814522209759333block=defaultportlet=epnzesm=ondisplay=New+Zealandaction=sitetopicsmode=realtimenzenb=leftcriteria=[topic%3Disonz]searchID=730444datetime=[t-minus%3D7]hdlaction=storystoryid=[storyid=ZEyPbScrG1jqXzNJx0stv_xaXKqx5NTyYu6vxKb430WzQfpdAyDYPYiNDYc3-KVuypy-7LvkTj52QJF6qhxubg**]rtcrdata=onepname=FINSVC;

He had a Derby Heritage Centre which he hopes to get going again
http://www.ilkcam.com/Specials/Heritage%20Derby/110828/Derby%20HW20.html

March article on his Derby Tourism Network
http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Tourism-network-help-city-s-hidden-treasures-map/story-15373990-detail/story.html

Doug



On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Morton
morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Unfortunate, unless I am reading his article wrong, that he's a bit of a
 quack...

 Tom

 On 30 July 2012 13:48, Doug Weller dougwel...@gmail.com wrote:

 We had an interesting tour of Derby Saturday run by Richard Felix, who
 seems to be the chief tourism booster in Derby and a real enthusiast.
 See his website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Felix and our
 article on him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Felix

 I mentioned Monmouthpedia and he was fascinated. He also seems to be a
 great fundraiser, and very upset at the lack of plaques on buildings.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New Laptops for events

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Symonds
Harry, Andrew, thanks for your advice! Andrew, since you've offered,
there's a desk available for you if you'd like to drop in next week :-)
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On 31 July 2012 12:03, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

 On 31 July 2012 11:08, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
  All,
 
  At the request of a volunteer, we've purchased three more laptops for
  events. They're free for any volunteer to take along to events - just
 ask us
  and we'll get them sent to you or the event.
 
  These ones are quite powerful, and relatively lightweight - they're the
 same
  ones that we used at IBM as company laptops. They are extremely robust -
  I've seen things happen to them that would make a Mac cry. The laptops
  themselves are specced as follows: Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 15, Intel Core
  i3-380M processor, 15.6 screen, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD. They have a webcam,
  and a card reader, and a dual-layer DVD+-RW drive.
 
  They all come with Windows 7 installed, but it'd be nice if a volunteer
 with
  experience in open-source software came in and got them to dual-boot
 with a
  suitable version of Linux. Any volunteers?

 I use xubuntu 12.04 on an almost identical laptop (a Thinkpad
 L-420/i3), and can report it has no problems at all dual-booting
 beyond a slight bit of confusion in the bootloader. (For some reason,
 it thinks there are two Linuxes and two Windows 7 setups on the same
 machine. Beats me.) If you'd like me to do the same to these, I can
 come in sometime this week or next - I'm working from home several
 days, but working from the office is more or less the same...

 These are very robust, very pleasant machines to use. Thanks for
 getting them, Richard, it'll make future outreach a lot easier to
 organise.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 31 July 2012 09:22, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 The Telegraph seem to have picked this up...

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html

Predictably, the story is starting to spread:

http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?gl=ukpz=1cf=allned=ukhl=enq=wikimedia+ukncl=drcm1dj39Jz4CfMo-tJUD6HkAFEPMcf=allscoring=d

(I think that link will work - it's supposed to be the related stories
page for the Telegraph article.)

So far, the Telegraph is only big name to be running the story, but
it's early yet.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 31 July 2012 09:22, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 The Telegraph seem to have picked this up...


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html


At the end of the article, it states *Wikimedia UK said it did not have an
official view on pornography on Wikipedia as it does control the content or
have responsibilty for it*.  (I added the emphasis). Stevie can you ask
The Telegraph to fix this error?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread Stevie Benton
Thank you for pointing that out. I've written for (another) correction.

Thanks,

Stevie

On 31 July 2012 14:21, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 31 July 2012 09:22, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 The Telegraph seem to have picked this up...


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html


 At the end of the article, it states *Wikimedia UK said it did not have
 an official view on pornography on Wikipedia as it does control the
 content or have responsibilty for it*.  (I added the emphasis). Stevie
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Symonds
Fixed now... it reads Wikimedia UK said it did not have an official view
on pornography on Wikipedia as it does not control the content or have
responsibilty for it. Not quite what we said, but accurate enough for the
Telegraph.

At least they've got a quote from Larry Sanger in there.

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On 31 July 2012 14:24, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Thank you for pointing that out. I've written for (another) correction.

 Thanks,

 Stevie


 On 31 July 2012 14:21, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 31 July 2012 09:22, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.comwrote:

 The Telegraph seem to have picked this up...


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html


 At the end of the article, it states *Wikimedia UK said it did not have
 an official view on pornography on Wikipedia as it does control the
 content or have responsibilty for it*.  (I added the emphasis). Stevie
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread Andrew West
On 31 July 2012 15:23, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 At least they've got a quote from Larry Sanger in there.

The Telegraph didn't just pick up this story from nowhere; it was
obviously fed to them by someone.  And given how the direction the
article takes is in line with Larry Sanger's campaign against
pornography on wikipedia, and that he has publicly denounced Fæ as a
clown, I wonder if Sanger was not the source of the article.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] University WiR job description

2012-07-31 Thread Michael Peel
I don't have a copy of it, sorry.

Mike

On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:20, Roger Bamkin wrote:

 Chris, Panyd wrote one for Manchester Uni which I can't trace but Mike Peel 
 may have a copy of. This may be useful I believe she is still in USA
 
 R
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia updates

2012-07-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
HI folks,

QRpedia developer Terence Eden has a new job (congratulations,
Terence!) and a week of leave, before he starts it. Rather than let
him watch the Olympics we've kept him chained to a desk, hacking code.
As a result, we have new improved stats pages, for example:

http://qrpedia.org/stats.php?path=Monmouth

You will see that there is a link to download all the data in CSV format:

http://qrpedia.org/csv.php?path=Monmouth

A link to the stats page is now on the main QRpedia.org page, when a
code is generated.

The old stats pages will be redirect to the new ones in a few weeks,
because cool URIs don't change  ;-)

If you have any requests for improvements - or have noticed any bugs -
please report them using the bug tracking system at

   http://code.google.com/p/qrwp/issues/list

That way we can all track everyone's requests, and see what others
have asked for before duplicating them.

I'll update the project pages at:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_QRpedia

including the short how to guide:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_QRpedia/user_guide

after posting this.

I'm sure that everyone using QRpedia will join me in thanking Terence
for his efforts in responding to our support requests.

Cheers,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread geni
On 31 July 2012 09:29, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 We've just published a response to the story on our blog. You can find this
 here -
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/07/a-response-to-the-daily-telegraph-article/


Why? Daily Telegraph has a daily readership of over 600K. WMUK blog
doesn't. But then given how think your attempted defense is I doubt it
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread steve virgin
 

Tom

 

It is beginning on Twitter as well

 

http://www.zuula.com/#eng=twitter-blog
http://www.zuula.com/#eng=twitter-blogst=Ashley_van_Haeftenloc=idx=0mod
e=resultsimgschlnk=pglnk=thmblnk=thmwd=thmht=imgwd=imght
st=Ashley_van_Haeftenloc=idx=0mode=resultsimgschlnk=pglnk=thmblnk=th
mwd=thmht=imgwd=imght=

 

...it is not a story that is going to go away alas. It needs dealing with in
a constructive way. 

 

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To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van
Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

 

On 1 August 2012 01:52, Andrew West  mailto:andrewcw...@gmail.com
andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 31 July 2012 13:17, Thomas Dalton  mailto:thomas.dal...@gmail.com
thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 

 Predictably, the story is starting to spread:

 

  http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?gl=ukpz=1cf=allned=ukhl=enq
http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?gl=ukpz=1cf=allned=ukhl=enq=

 wikimedia+ukncl=drcm1dj39Jz4CfMo-tJUD6HkAFEPMcf=allscoring=d

 

 And equally predictably:

 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_van_Haeften
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_van_Haeften

 

There are some notability concerns there... I haven't tagged the article,
but I've left a note on the talk page.

 

I've also noticed the issue is now getting international coverage:

 

 
http://www.actualitte.com/acteurs-numeriques/le-president-de-wikimedia-uk-b
anni-pour-violation-des-regles-de-wikipedia-35722.htm
http://www.actualitte.com/acteurs-numeriques/le-president-de-wikimedia-uk-ba
nni-pour-violation-des-regles-de-wikipedia-35722.htm

 

I have no idea what that site is, and don't speak French, but it shows up on
Google News.

 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-31 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 August 2012 01:52, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 31 July 2012 13:17, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Predictably, the story is starting to spread:

 http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?gl=ukpz=1cf=allned=ukhl=enq=wikimedia+ukncl=drcm1dj39Jz4CfMo-tJUD6HkAFEPMcf=allscoring=d

 And equally predictably:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_van_Haeften

 There are some notability concerns there... I haven't tagged the
 article, but I've left a note on the talk page.

 I've also noticed the issue is now getting international coverage:

 http://www.actualitte.com/acteurs-numeriques/le-president-de-wikimedia-uk-banni-pour-violation-des-regles-de-wikipedia-35722.htm

Ugh, I think it has several aspects wrong, like asserting that Jimbo
also banned/agreed with the ban of Ashley from en.wp, rather than
banning Ashley from his talk page before the ArbCom decision.

 I have no idea what that site is, and don't speak French, but it shows
 up on Google News.

It doesnt look very notable, with 156 hits across all Wikipedias

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=%22Actualitte.com%22+site%3Awikipedia.org

-- 
John Vandenberg

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