Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
On 07/10/12 22:34, Roger Bamkin wrote: Hi Gordan I thought your comment was a bit uncalled for. Good think that I did not make. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
Have I? Gordo On 08/10/12 09:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org mailto:wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. +1 Gordon, you've been called on unsubstantiated sniping before. If you have something to say, say it. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. +1 Gordon, you've been called on unsubstantiated sniping before. If you have something to say, say it. - d. Did the board reject Roger's resignations in the past? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
On 8 October 2012 10:36, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. +1 Gordon, you've been called on unsubstantiated sniping before. If you have something to say, say it. Did the board reject Roger's resignations in the past? Yes indeed. However, this does not constitute substantiating evidence for your claim, as you have even quoted above. Do please try again. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
On 08/10/12 10:39, David Gerard wrote: Yes indeed. However, this does not constitute substantiating evidence for your claim, as you have even quoted above. Do please try again. Sorry David. I will not try again. Many thanks for the offer. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably thought they were just being supportive colleagues. On Oct 8, 2012 10:36 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. +1 Gordon, you've been called on unsubstantiated sniping before. If you have something to say, say it. - d. Did the board reject Roger's resignations in the past? Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
On 08/10/12 10:45, Thomas Dalton wrote: It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably thought they were just being supportive colleagues. Well put. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
Do *you* have any evidence for that? On Oct 8, 2012 10:45 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably thought they were just being supportive colleagues. On Oct 8, 2012 10:36 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. +1 Gordon, you've been called on unsubstantiated sniping before. If you have something to say, say it. - d. Did the board reject Roger's resignations in the past? Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
I am obviously unaware of the reasons why the board in camera rejected my offers of resignation. However I have confidence that it was rational rather than emotional. On 8 October 2012 11:43, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Do *you* have any evidence for that? On Oct 8, 2012 10:45 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably thought they were just being supportive colleagues. On Oct 8, 2012 10:36 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. +1 Gordon, you've been called on unsubstantiated sniping before. If you have something to say, say it. - d. Did the board reject Roger's resignations in the past? Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2 ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
On Oct 8, 2012 11:43 AM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Do *you* have any evidence for that? For their actions, or their reasons? Their actions are pretty clear to anyone that has been following the situations. I'm speculating about their reasons. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
For their reasons, of course. A claim of protection implies a wilful act. On Oct 8, 2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012 11:43 AM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Do *you* have any evidence for that? For their actions, or their reasons? Their actions are pretty clear to anyone that has been following the situations. I'm speculating about their reasons. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility
Was this resignation offer and decision minuted publicly? John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Oct 8, 2012 6:22 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: For their reasons, of course. A claim of protection implies a wilful act. On Oct 8, 2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012 11:43 AM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Do *you* have any evidence for that? For their actions, or their reasons? Their actions are pretty clear to anyone that has been following the situations. I'm speculating about their reasons. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
All, Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
If she were actually keen to meet UK Wikipedians, shouldn't she have given us a bit more than a couple of hours notice? -- Doug On 8 October 2012 15:52, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: All, Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! I'll be along just before 6. Chris ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
I think she extended her trip by a day, after being here for Jimmy's wedding. Her flight is (very) early tomorrow morning! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 8 October 2012 16:40, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: If she were actually keen to meet UK Wikipedians, shouldn't she have given us a bit more than a couple of hours notice? -- Doug On 8 October 2012 15:52, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: All, Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
That's a bit of a crappy line to take (sorry). Sommone can't really care to meet people or it would have ben pre-arranged. Quite likely it wasn't expected there would be much chance at all to meet generally, a lot of things like this are last minute because of time constraints or because somethng is resolved quicker than expected. Did you ask last week will you have a chance to meet people while over? If so, you'd have learned it was not expected even a few days ago, that there would be any chance for other socializing because of tight time constraints. FT2 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: If she were actually keen to meet UK Wikipedians, shouldn't she have given us a bit more than a couple of hours notice? -- Doug On 8 October 2012 15:52, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: All, Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
I think it's fairly symptomatic of the London-centricity of many people. What is relatively easy for those living in the City to do is probably a three-hour journey or more each way for those of us who live further afield and needs planning. I simply find it discourteous (sorry) to exclude us provincials, not deliberately, I'm sure, but through lack of forethought. And if it was not expected even a few days ago, why do you expect me to be asking about it last week? I don't mind being criticised for many things, but a lack of psychic powers is not one of them. -- Doug On 8 October 2012 16:58, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: That's a bit of a crappy line to take (sorry). Sommone can't really care to meet people or it would have ben pre-arranged. Quite likely it wasn't expected there would be much chance at all to meet generally, a lot of things like this are last minute because of time constraints or because somethng is resolved quicker than expected. Did you ask last week will you have a chance to meet people while over? If so, you'd have learned it was not expected even a few days ago, that there would be any chance for other socializing because of tight time constraints. FT2 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: If she were actually keen to meet UK Wikipedians, shouldn't she have given us a bit more than a couple of hours notice? -- Doug On 8 October 2012 15:52, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: All, Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] September 2012 report
Hello everyone, Just a gentle reminder that if you have anything to add to the WMUK report for September 2012, please do so this week. I'll be sending the report out at the beginning of next week. You can find it at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2012/September Many thanks, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
On 8 October 2012 17:15, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I don't mind being criticised for many things, but a lack of psychic powers is not one of them. I knew you were going to say that. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
1/ I see. It's terrible that when you have a few hours unexpectedly spare to meet people, one might not use 6 of them travelling to Manchester and back to hold your (negative duration?) social just before waking up bright and early for the (very early) transatlantic flight from the same city where the wedding took place. Repeated events can move. One-off unscheduled time around a tightly planned event is often wherever it happens to be. To accuse someone effectively of not giving a shit for others because it happened that they could fit in some social time but not easily in a different part of the country, is still crappy. Just apologize. 2/ A few days ago *is* last week FT2 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:15 PM, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I think it's fairly symptomatic of the London-centricity of many people. What is relatively easy for those living in the City to do is probably a three-hour journey or more each way for those of us who live further afield and needs planning. I simply find it discourteous (sorry) to exclude us provincials, not deliberately, I'm sure, but through lack of forethought. And if it was not expected even a few days ago, why do you expect me to be asking about it last week? I don't mind being criticised for many things, but a lack of psychic powers is not one of them. -- Doug On 8 October 2012 16:58, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: That's a bit of a crappy line to take (sorry). Sommone can't really care to meet people or it would have ben pre-arranged. Quite likely it wasn't expected there would be much chance at all to meet generally, a lot of things like this are last minute because of time constraints or because somethng is resolved quicker than expected. Did you ask last week will you have a chance to meet people while over? If so, you'd have learned it was not expected even a few days ago, that there would be any chance for other socializing because of tight time constraints. FT2 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: If she were actually keen to meet UK Wikipedians, shouldn't she have given us a bit more than a couple of hours notice? -- Doug On 8 October 2012 15:52, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: All, Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email directly! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK
On 08/10/2012 16:40, rexx wrote: Asaf posted a message on the wiki a few days ago regarding his availability http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler#Visiting_WMUK_next_week. Did you take up his offer? -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
