Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Tom Morris
On Monday, 8 October 2012 at 17:15, rexx wrote:
 I think it's fairly symptomatic of the London-centricity of many people. What 
 is relatively easy for those living in the City to do is probably a 
 three-hour journey or more each way for those of us who live further afield 
 and needs planning. I simply find it discourteous (sorry) to exclude us 
 provincials, not deliberately, I'm sure, but through lack of forethought.
 
 And if it was not expected even a few days ago, why do you expect me to be 
 asking about it last week? I don't mind being criticised for many things, but 
 a lack of psychic powers is not one of them.

Oh, stop moaning. There's a reason things happen in London: people live and 
work there. Things happening in London is not always a grand conspiracy to 
slight non-Londoners. 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 October 2012 09:13, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:

 Things happening in London is not always a grand conspiracy to slight 
 non-Londoners.


shh, don't spoil our fun!


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Gordon Joly

On 08/10/12 15:52, Richard Symonds wrote:


Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few 
others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK 
Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old 
Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email 
directly!



When does Asaf leave?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Katie Chan

On 09/10/2012 09:57, Gordon Joly wrote:

On 08/10/12 15:52, Richard Symonds wrote:


Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few
others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK
Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old
Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email
directly!


When does Asaf leave?


From the previously posted link:

I will be in London until Thursday morning


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Richard Symonds
Asaf is more than happy to meet anyone today or tomorrow. He's actually
really keen to do so!

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On 9 October 2012 10:18, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

 On 09/10/2012 09:57, Gordon Joly wrote:

 On 08/10/12 15:52, Richard Symonds wrote:


 Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few
 others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK
 Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old
 Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so, drop me an email
 directly!

  When does Asaf leave?


 From the previously posted link:

 I will be in London until Thursday morning



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Could someone be so kind as to answer John's question?


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was this resignation offer and decision minuted publicly?

 John Vandenberg.
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 On Oct 8, 2012 6:22 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:

 For their reasons, of course. A claim of protection implies a wilful act.
 On Oct 8, 2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Oct 8, 2012 11:43 AM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Do *you* have any evidence for that?

 For their actions, or their reasons? Their actions are pretty clear to
 anyone that has been following the situations. I'm speculating about their
 reasons.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-09 Thread Richard Symonds
As far as I am aware a resignation offer has not been publicly minuted, but
that may well be because the minutes from the meeting in question are still
being drafted (and certainly haven't been approved!)

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On 9 October 2012 12:08, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could someone be so kind as to answer John's question?


 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was this resignation offer and decision minuted publicly?

 John Vandenberg.
 sent from Galaxy Note
 On Oct 8, 2012 6:22 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:

 For their reasons, of course. A claim of protection implies a wilful act.
 On Oct 8, 2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Oct 8, 2012 11:43 AM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Do *you* have any evidence for that?

 For their actions, or their reasons? Their actions are pretty clear to
 anyone that has been following the situations. I'm speculating about their
 reasons.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 9 October 2012 12:31, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 As far as I am aware a resignation offer has not been publicly minuted, but
 that may well be because the minutes from the meeting in question are still
 being drafted (and certainly haven't been approved!)

I think John is refering to the rejected offers, rather than the one
that was finally accepted. My understanding is that those were in
camera decisions, but perhaps now they can be released? The reasons
for keeping it in camera probably don't apply now Roger has actually
resigned.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-09 Thread Gordon Joly

On 09/10/12 12:31, Richard Symonds wrote:
As far as I am aware a resignation offer has not been publicly 
minuted, but that may well be because the minutes from the meeting in 
question are still being drafted (and certainly haven't been approved!)


My collection was that Roger Bamkin's resignation was tendered more than 
once, and hence would be in extant minutes.


I have no idea where I read that, so I could be wrong.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Gordon Joly

On 09/10/12 11:02, Richard Symonds wrote:
Asaf is more than happy to meet anyone today or tomorrow. He's 
actually really keen to do so!



OK. I will be there Wednesday afternoon.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Gordon Joly

On 09/10/12 13:37, WereSpielChequers wrote:
But shifting the office is a bigger job, and wherever the office is we 
will have spontaneous meetings taking place.

Salford?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 October 2012 13:37, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

 More to the point, as a community we do have a lot of events outside London.
 But London is where we have our office, our largest concentration of members
 and half our AGMs, so it will get a disproportionate proportion of our
 meetings.


I recall things being remarkably non-London-centric when most of the
board didn't live anywhere near it. Media storms were fun when I was
the only person on hand to do telly ...


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

2012-10-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The minutes of the meeting on 19 September, where Roger's resignation offer
was accepted, have been online since last Saturday:

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_19Sep12#Part_2

There are no minutes relating to any previous resignation offers I can find.

Andreas

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 09/10/12 12:31, Richard Symonds wrote:

 As far as I am aware a resignation offer has not been publicly minuted,
 but that may well be because the minutes from the meeting in question are
 still being drafted (and certainly haven't been approved!)

  My collection was that Roger Bamkin's resignation was tendered more than
 once, and hence would be in extant minutes.

 I have no idea where I read that, so I could be wrong.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Gordon Joly

On 09/10/12 14:31, David Gerard wrote:

Media storms were fun when I was
the only person on hand to do telly ...

Like I said, move the offices to Salford.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Jon Davies
Just because Match of the Day is there doesn't mean we have to go too

On 9 October 2012 16:27, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 09/10/12 14:31, David Gerard wrote:

 Media storms were fun when I was
 the only person on hand to do telly ...

 Like I said, move the offices to Salford.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

2012-10-09 Thread Michael Peel

On 9 Oct 2012, at 16:27, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 09/10/12 14:31, David Gerard wrote:
 Media storms were fun when I was
 the only person on hand to do telly ...
 Like I said, move the offices to Salford.

That doesn't really make much difference when it comes to media. It's very easy 
for me to get to the BBC's MediaCity in Salford Quays, but it's very rare that 
there's opportunities to be interviewed there. I've been on Radio 5 Live once 
from their studios in MediaCity, and that's about it. Most relevant media work 
(particularly TV) still takes place in London.

Thanks,
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