Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

2012-10-11 Thread Hasina Khatun
Hi,
Sorry for the late reply.
The booking has been made for the downstairs area. I will also leave a note
before I leave to the office, to call before The Penderal's Oak meet up to
make sure they are still aware of the booking.
On 4 October 2012 17:00, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 04/10/12 12:23, Thomas Dalton wrote:

 On 4 October 2012 11:27, Hasina Khatun 
 hasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.**ukhasina.kha...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

 Hello,

 Just to keep you updated the Penderal's Oak has been booked for the 11th
 November. Just the cake now :)

 Great, thanks! You should probably call them a couple of days before
 to confirm, since they haven't managed to forget such bookings in the
 past.



 Can I assume that the booking is for the downstairs room?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] An interesting blog from Africa.

2012-10-11 Thread WereSpielChequers
We do have a systematic bias that leads us to under-represent Africa, and
anywhere else where secondary sources are sparse. But otherwise I believe
the blogger is misinformed. Our page views aren't flat, they are growing
faster than the average for the Internet. And while the number of new
articles per day is below our peak, that isn't the main area of improvement
in Wikipedia, we already have over 4 million articles, most of the editing
and much of the new content is to maintain and improve the articles we
have. This is an inevitable transition in a growing project, at the
beginning all articles had to be started, now in many topic areas the main
need is for article improvement.

WSC

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[Wikimediauk-l] [Consultation] Members strategy and members survey

2012-10-11 Thread Katherine Bavage
Good morning everyone!

If you have time do look at pages on the UK Wiki about the direction
Wikimedia UK's membership can take in future.

Here is the 
pagehttps://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMUK_membership_survey_-_suggestions_and_commentsdiscussing
the kinds of things you think a survey to members should cover -
I'd like to get the survey developed soon so contributions made now would
be very timely, and I can put up a draft of the survey questions when I've
written for further comment.

Here is the page https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges with
some initial thoughts on building a membership strategy - all comments
welcome, including links to previous meeting minutes or otherwise that you
think should be considered.

Many thanks,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

2012-10-11 Thread Gordon Joly

On 11/10/12 09:55, Hasina Khatun wrote:

Sorry for the late reply.
The booking has been made for the downstairs area. I will also leave a 
note before I leave to the office, to call before The Penderal's Oak 
meet up to make sure they are still aware of the booking.



So. downstairs room booked from 1pm onwards, to closing time, Sunday 
11th November?


And the cake?

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[Wikimediauk-l] [Consultation] Members strategy and members survey

2012-10-11 Thread Katherine Bavage
Hi Everyone!

Deryck and Gordon have kindly pointed out the second link goes to Recent
changes, when I wanted it to re-direct to
herehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Membership_strategy_consultation
.

Thanks for your patience all - and do take a look, it's really helpful for
me to get a feel for the thought of our most involved volunteers and
members :)

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Date: 11 October 2012 11:20
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Good morning everyone!

If you have time do look at pages on the UK Wiki about the direction
Wikimedia UK's membership can take in future.

Here is the 
pagehttps://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMUK_membership_survey_-_suggestions_and_commentsdiscussing
the kinds of things you think a survey to members should cover -
I'd like to get the survey developed soon so contributions made now would
be very timely, and I can put up a draft of the survey questions when I've
written for further comment.

Here is the page https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges with
some initial thoughts on building a membership strategy - all comments
welcome, including links to previous meeting minutes or otherwise that you
think should be considered.

Many thanks,

-- 
*Katherine Bavage *
*Fundraising Manager *
*Wikimedia UK*
+44 20 7065 0949

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
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United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

2012-10-11 Thread Hasina Khatun
The downstairs area has been booked for 1pm onwards, till closing time on
the day.
I am still waiting for news on the budget before I order a cake.

Hasina

On 11 October 2012 11:42, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 11/10/12 09:55, Hasina Khatun wrote:

 Sorry for the late reply.
 The booking has been made for the downstairs area. I will also leave a
 note before I leave to the office, to call before The Penderal's Oak meet
 up to make sure they are still aware of the booking.



 So. downstairs room booked from 1pm onwards, to closing time, Sunday
 11th November?

 And the cake?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Independent review: timetable

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew Turvey
As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent
developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself
what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help
to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.

I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem to
be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to pull
together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The board
seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from Jon
who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would definitely
recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in as well
and hear for themselves.

Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that
they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need
to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also
have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be
prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's
happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel
inclined?

Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the blog
post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly include a
description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any reason
on the surface not to do this at this stage.

Many thanks,

[1]
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/

Andrew

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Charity Commission indeed.


 On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment
 of the independent reviewer:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12

 Just out of interest, where it refers to a preference to the ex-CC
 candidate, am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission
 rather than Creative Commons?

 Andreas


 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies 
 jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as
 possible.


 On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 What is the timetable for the forthcoming independent review?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Independent review: timetable

2012-10-11 Thread Joe Filceolaire
Can we have a look before it gets to the final version so that when it goes
to wmf and reviewer it has our suggestions for consideration

Joe
On Oct 11, 2012 8:26 PM, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent
 developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself
 what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help
 to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.

 I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem
 to be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to
 pull together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The
 board seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from
 Jon who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would
 definitely recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in
 as well and hear for themselves.

 Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that
 they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need
 to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also
 have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be
 prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's
 happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel
 inclined?

 Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the
 blog post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly
 include a description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any
 reason on the surface not to do this at this stage.

 Many thanks,

 [1]
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/

 Andrew

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies 
 jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Charity Commission indeed.


 On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment
 of the independent reviewer:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12

 Just out of interest, where it refers to a preference to the ex-CC
 candidate, am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission
 rather than Creative Commons?

 Andreas


 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies 
 jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as
 possible.


 On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:

 What is the timetable for the forthcoming independent review?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Independent review: timetable

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew Turvey
I got the impression it had been negotiated in conjunction with the WMF and
the reviewer candidates so I think it's too late for that - but the
board/Jon can confirm.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can we have a look before it gets to the final version so that when it
 goes to wmf and reviewer it has our suggestions for consideration

 Joe
 On Oct 11, 2012 8:26 PM, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent
 developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself
 what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help
 to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.

 I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem
 to be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to
 pull together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The
 board seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from
 Jon who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would
 definitely recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in
 as well and hear for themselves.

 Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that
 they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need
 to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also
 have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be
 prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's
 happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel
 inclined?

 Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the
 blog post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly
 include a description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any
 reason on the surface not to do this at this stage.

 Many thanks,

 [1]
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/

 Andrew

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies 
 jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Charity Commission indeed.


 On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment
 of the independent reviewer:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12

 Just out of interest, where it refers to a preference to the ex-CC
 candidate, am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission
 rather than Creative Commons?

 Andreas


 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  wrote:

 We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as
 possible.


 On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:

 What is the timetable for the forthcoming independent review?

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