Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership recruitment

2013-07-02 Thread Katherine Bavage
So,

I was away yesterday and am just coming back to this.

Can I nudge the discussion back to where it started - are we comfortable
with the proposals for how we could describe the reasons why different sets
of people (broadly: editors v non editors) would benefit/enjoy being
members, AND how we might share these messages appropriately around our
events?

I found Fabian's point interesting re: As long as there are enough people
to maintain WMUK, why do we need to
worry about recruitment? And if there are not enough people, then
perhaps there is no need for WMUK? and linking this to broader movement
goals. However, we're not just a chapter, we're a charity, and we have
public benefit as a part of that charity's objects. Further, the movement
itself has expressed the desire to increase the reach of the projects
coverage and participation in content creation.

Increasing membership is a valid goal for this organisation because it
delivers in all these ways - supporting established editors to network, set
the strategy for the charity and receive micro grants, and drawing in new
editors from a broader range of perspectives and backgrounds to widen and
strengthen the established editing community.

Increasing membership isn't contradictory but complementary to the
movements broadest and most dearly held goals because it facilitates this.
So I'd really appreciate input into and support for this work because I
think it will succeed if we all work on it, including constrictive
criticism of course :)


*Katherine Bavage *
*Fundraising Manager *
*Wikimedia UK*
+44 20 7065 0752

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Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 1 July 2013 18:46, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

 On 01/07/2013 10:18, James Farrar wrote:

 The total number of votes can be inferred as the resolutions were voted
 on by the same people who participated in the Board election, so 44.


 Overall yes, but not exactly. I can think of a few (e.g. me) that voted
 for the resolutions but not in the board election.


 KTC

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership recruitment

2013-07-02 Thread Roger Bamkin
You are right Katherine the key here is the charity and the charity's
mission. Chapters are just a nice device to help the mission along. It
worries me that WMUK is looking at some projects like Joburgpedia (see May
report) and it is taking especial care to say that it isnt supported  by
the chapter - I think this means money. But others may think that money has
become the focus and WMUK is defining itself by the projects led by paid
staff.

Members will follow leadership and this should be directed entirely at the
mission. Sure give them a badge or a pin (but not a job!).


On 2 July 2013 09:54, Katherine Bavage katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 So,

 I was away yesterday and am just coming back to this.

 Can I nudge the discussion back to where it started - are we comfortable
 with the proposals for how we could describe the reasons why different sets
 of people (broadly: editors v non editors) would benefit/enjoy being
 members, AND how we might share these messages appropriately around our
 events?

 I found Fabian's point interesting re: As long as there are enough
 people to maintain WMUK, why do we need to
 worry about recruitment? And if there are not enough people, then
 perhaps there is no need for WMUK? and linking this to broader movement
 goals. However, we're not just a chapter, we're a charity, and we have
 public benefit as a part of that charity's objects. Further, the movement
 itself has expressed the desire to increase the reach of the projects
 coverage and participation in content creation.

 Increasing membership is a valid goal for this organisation because it
 delivers in all these ways - supporting established editors to network, set
 the strategy for the charity and receive micro grants, and drawing in new
 editors from a broader range of perspectives and backgrounds to widen and
 strengthen the established editing community.

 Increasing membership isn't contradictory but complementary to the
 movements broadest and most dearly held goals because it facilitates this.
 So I'd really appreciate input into and support for this work because I
 think it will succeed if we all work on it, including constrictive
 criticism of course :)


 *Katherine Bavage *
 *Fundraising Manager *
 *Wikimedia UK*
 +44 20 7065 0752

 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

 *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
 over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


 On 1 July 2013 18:46, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

 On 01/07/2013 10:18, James Farrar wrote:

 The total number of votes can be inferred as the resolutions were voted
 on by the same people who participated in the Board election, so 44.


 Overall yes, but not exactly. I can think of a few (e.g. me) that voted
 for the resolutions but not in the board election.


 KTC

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